William Bennett and Robert White join Power Line to discuss their new book, Going to Pot: Why the Rush to Legalize Marijuana is Harming America. BUnknownennett and White trace how marijuana has gone from the days of Reefer Madness to being legalized in four states, with more expected to follow. Their research-driven book has some disturbing information about how marijuana leads to abnormal brain development and they argue more Americans should be hesitant to jump on the legalization bandwagon. For more information about the book, visit their website.

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  1. user_409996 Member
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    By the way, can the average couple raising children in this country even afford to buy Marijuana anymore?

    The parents I know have to give up a lot of pleasures that are much less controversial to provide for their children.

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  2. Ricochet Member
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    Wow. The Fire and Brimstone comes out! Can’t you just say they are going to Hell and move on?

    I don’t think you are being fair at all. You say you smoked and took drugs at one point. You were lucky to not get caught. Apparently you didn’t need to be sentenced to Folsom to ‘reform’ yourself and find Jesus, but it’s ‘on them’ if they get caught. What a sweet guy you are! What’s with the caps by the way? Degenerate Gamblers? Do you know Bennet’s history or was that just a coincidence?

    Marijuana is cheap, by the way. Very cheap. Another testament to drug enforcement results.

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  3. user_409996 Member
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    Franco:Wow. The Fire and Brimstone comes out! Can’t you just say they are going to Hell and move on?

    I don’t think you are being fair at all. You say you smoked and took drugs at one point. You were lucky to not get caught. Apparently you didn’t need to be sentenced to Folsom to ‘reform’ yourself and find Jesus, but it’s ‘on them’ if they get caught. What a sweet guy you are! What’s with the caps by the way? Degenerate Gamblers? Do you know Bennet’s history or was that just a coincidence?

    Marijuana is cheap, by the way. Very cheap. Another testament to drug enforcement results.

    My father was a Degenerate Gambler.  When Mom found out that he had borrowed money from a loan shark (the Post Office never could, try as they might over the course of 30 years, promote him past the entry level position he started in on a Seasonal basis in the 1960’s – he died a few years after retiring in the 1990’s, of a stomach cancer that kept him from keeping food down for 3 months and metastasized with frightening rapidity into his Lymph Nodes … and he died owing the IRS money because he raided his own IRA to support his gambling habit) she kept him on an Allowance for 20 years (until the divorce).  When they sold the house, he blew through $75,000 in two years.

    Can it honestly be said that William Bennett has so strong an urge to gamble that his career has had the same arc?  He may have been lucky, or he may have made better career and life choices that have allowed him to not be the degenerate Gambler who drives into Vegas in a $30,000 car and rides back out in a $50,000 bus.

    And it’s by foregoing on a lot of cheaper pleasures that many responsible parents in this country pay for the expensive pleasures.  Gas prices didn’t drop by that much between the time people eschewed vacations for stay-cations because they had children to raise.

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  4. user_409996 Member
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    Franco:Wow. The Fire and Brimstone comes out! Can’t you just say they are going to Hell and move on?

    I don’t think you are being fair at all. You say you smoked and took drugs at one point. You were lucky to not get caught. Apparently you didn’t need to be sentenced to Folsom to ‘reform’ yourself and find Jesus, but it’s ‘on them’ if they get caught. What a sweet guy you are! What’s with the caps by the way? Degenerate Gamblers? Do you know Bennet’s history or was that just a coincidence?

    Marijuana is cheap, by the way. Very cheap. Another testament to drug

    Yes, Franco it is on the abusers of substances that have the potential to destroy their lives whether they pay attention the the numerous warning shots across the bow or need a full broadside to reduce the frail and worn wooden walls of our lives to splinters.

    And they are all wooden walls, you know – as David, who was a well-practiced transgressor, tells us in Psalm 103,

    The Lord is compassionate and gracious,
        slow to anger, abounding in love.
    9 He will not always accuse,
        nor will he harbor his anger forever;
    10 he does not treat us as our sins deserve
        or repay us according to our iniquities.
    11 For as high as the heavens are above the earth,
        so great is his love for those who fear him;
    12 as far as the east is from the west,
        so far has he removed our transgressions from us.
    enforcement results

    We have Free Will, and that means we get to wait until it is too late to avoid paying the greatest cost for our Folly before we repent of it.  God does not force us to be prudent, or stop us from being stupid.  He is with us everywhere, including in the penitentiary, where inmates have as much opportunity to be Penitent as when they walked the streets freely.

    Perhaps some Fire and Brimstone would be of benefit to you, to burn away what seems to be an excess of cleverness and that sticks-the pinky-out-when-he-drinks-tea “Sophistication”.  I only wish I were as eloquent in dealing with you as Paul in dealing with the original Sophists.

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  5. Ricochet Coolidge
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    Pot is probably harmful and certainly not beneficial.  Why are we opening up another can of worms with legalizing such a substance?  Count me with William Bennet.  I am not a Libertarian.  Society is not served by legalizing this crap.

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  6. Gromrus Member
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    Franco:

    Randy Weivoda:Boy, I love the subtitle of that book. The rush to legalize marijuana? Marijuana has been around for a long time and people have been debating whether it should be legal or not for my whole life. How much longer should the voters wait before giving people a little bit of freedom back?

    And what about the main title! Clever!

    Do they really think that one more book bashing weed through spurious research and anecdotal information is going to change anything? These people CAUSED this ‘problem’ if it is a problem, out of being unable to make distinctions, out of being heavy-handed and narrow-minded, out of lying and not knowing what they are talking about and out of promoting irrational fear. Now when overwhelming number of people are laughing at them because of their absurd notions, they come out with a new book. Hilarious.

    If you want to cite examples from their book of the data they cite being spurious and anecdotal, do so.  Otherwise use other terms to reveal your bias.

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  7. Gromrus Member
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    I need to know who sings the closing song “Victoria.” It is catchy and really sticks in my head.

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  8. Ricochet Member
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    Gromrus:I need to know who sings the closing song “Victoria.” It is catchy and really sticks in my head.

    The Kinks off their album Arthur.  They were incorrigible pot smokers by the way.

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  9. user_1030767 Inactive
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    Marijuana legalization is an issue I’m about as undecided on as any, although I’m much more pro-decriminalization than I used to be.  My advice to legislators would be to see what happens in the states that have decriminalized it before making any rash moves.

    The podcast guests mentioned that marijuana is much more potent today than it used to be, but did not discuss why this is so.  Milton Friedman has argued quite persuasively that prohibition of drugs pushes the producers of drugs towards more potent forms of drugs.  I’m a new follower of Friedman, so I may be accepting his argument too uncritically, but I found it persuasive.

    Also, Bennett and White focused on explaining why marijuana is bad, and seemed to assume that this is a sufficient argument for making it, or keeping it, illegal.  Conservatives and classical liberals should assume that when debating criminalization, the burden of proof is on those who seek to criminalize.

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  10. user_370242 Inactive
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    I consider Bill Bennett a throwback, but on this pot issue I agree. Today’s pot is far more potent than the 70s. It’s a hallucinogenic. It is not chemically related to alcohol. Never was. Being impaired or under the influence of booze is a different experience than a psychedelic high on pot. You are not likely to hold a conversation with Napoleon while hanging off the bar stool. Pot is dangerous.

    I have no idea if it’s any more addictive than any other habit forming drugs or activities. Not my point. There are different strengths I suppose. Still, smoking a drug that blows your head off is not a prescription for good health.

    Yes, I recognize the country is on an irreversible legalization path. Still, that doesn’t make it a good idea. Treating it as a controlled dangerous substance requiring a prescription might have been a cautious interim step. Sure, it was widely abused by doctor and patient alike, but the states could at least have tested out the efficacy of partial legalization before jumping off the cliff.

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