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You may have heard a rumor about Jonah’s ability to purchase a pair of pants. On this week’s episode of GLoP Culture, Goldberg bravely addresses these scurrilous reports and refutes a certain follicle challenged Presidential candidate’s assertions about his haberdasher purchasing skills. Also, The GLoP take on Greece, the GLoP daughters review Inside Out, decaying Manhattan, the genius of Idiocracy, RIP Omar Sharif, and some GLoP suggestions on movies you haven’t seen.
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a smart candidate will take away two important lessons from Trump
1) Treat the media as if they hate you, that they want you to lose, that they want to humiliate you. Because they do.
You can be combative like Trump or polite like Cruz, but you better push back, you better question their premises, and call them on their biases. Newt did this to great effect before Romney carpet bombed him with TV ads.
Can’t let Candy Crowley manipulate debates and not call her on it.
Go after the media without coming off as whiny (like Santorum) and you will win over the GOP voter.
2) The base needs to believe you respect them. That you care about the issues they care about. That you are responsive to their concerns. It may well all be phony, but Trump is at least acting that way.
Romney and Jeb look like a kid eating their vegetables when they talk to conservatives.
Here’s a good litmus test: If you are incapable or unwilling to go on talk radio to defend your campaign (Hugh Hewitt doesn’t count), you don’t respect the base. Because talk radio is what the base listens to.
That didn’t fly when Mitt Romney did it, why should Trump get a pass?
Probably because of a Romney problem that Jonah has written about quite a bit: his cardboard-like air of insincerity (“Severe conservative”, etc). Being that Trump is a salesman, he can actually pull that off. He may be completely lying, it may all be an act… but Trump actually can appear to give a damn. When Romney tried, he was called flip-flopper because he had the acting ability of a stiff 14 year old in a dull high school play.
This is right on the money Douglas. Feel like writing an expanded post on this theme?
If I recall correctly, the Perot/Bush wedding accusations started after Perot decided to run for President. I do think Podhoretz is correct that Perot hates Bush, and given that they are both from Texas I would venture it goes back many years. Regardless of the motive, Perot was correct to make a big issue of the deficit and the national debt.
Posting from iphone, after suffering thru 1 hr 17 min of t-rumps marvel of rambling incoherence in phoenix. It is not possible for any self respecting human with semi functional brain to asscociate with this fool in any serious way. Go ahead take the phoenix test, or cure.
Would like to revise and extend my thanks and praise for GLoP… turns out you guys showed tremendous restraint and grace.
In my recollection most of the Perot vote was rich white suburbanites, not “white jerks”.
I’m not sure Podhoretz thinks they are mutually exclusive.
I have always said that Democrats will rue the day that they hitched their wagon to one Barack Obama. The same is true of Republicans who find themselves behind a stalking horse named Donald Trump.
You just don’t understand – Mr Trump was referring to the fact that Mr Goldberg is always sitting behind a desk, so his pants remain an unknown (or unknown unknown) – he personifies the cognoscenti. I have been to AEI – I know what they look like. Always sitting behind desks. Or smoking Cuban cigars on the roof.
Like many of us, Mr Trump thinks that the USA is in dire straights – I don’t think it is more complicated than that (dismissed by Mr Long in a nanosecond) – but, yeah, he (Mr Trump, not Mr Long) could be a Trojan Horse for Ms Pantsuits – and I could have the naivety of a legal immigrant (I could have just walked across the border, rather than fill out all those forms).
If Donald Trump wants to be taken seriously by more than just enough people to screw everything up, he ought to explain the reasons behind his 180-degree turns regarding Hillary, abortion, and immigration policy over the last half dozen years.
Until he does that (fat effing chance) I’m hoping people like Jonah Goldberg and Kevin Williamson keep exposing him for the unprincipled huckster that he is.
I think the essential part of this trick is to nudge Trump into making big enough mistakes to preclude what I now think is an likely jump to a third-party run.
Finally, I thought it was a great GLoP podcast. I can understand how people who have swallowed Trump’s line–and once swallowed a similar line from Ross Perot–might squirm a little while listening.
Perot’s line and situation were not similar, I doubt there is much commonality between Perot and Trump voters (if there even are any Trump voters), and “squirm” is not my reaction to being called a “White jerk.” An understanding that somebody is indeed a jerk, and hostile to my interests and viewpoint, is my reaction.
I was 28 in 1992 and this is the first I’ve heard of it too. Checking around the internet, it seems that Perot ran for President, then dropped out over some imagined plot by Bush to embarrass his daughter at his wedding, then got back in the race too late to recover his momentum. I’m not sure what really happened other than i don’t think JPod rally knows what he’s talking about.
Going over Perot’s positions listed in the Wiki article still sound pretty good to me.
Hi, I’m David and I voted for Perot in 92 (Chorus, “Hi David”)
I did it, like many folks, due to Bush 41’s idiocy of believing the Democrats when they said, “Break your no new taxes pledge and we promise we’ll control spending.” [Insert image of Lucy once again pulling the football away.]
That said, J-pod was uber insulting on this podcast, as was K-Will the last time. I’ll take being governed by 435 “rubes” picked from a small town in Texas over being ruled over by the 435 politicians we have now. Also, the “white jerk voters” are right. Also, are we now the left and have to insert race into every conversation? J-pod would do well to move out of New York and spend a could of years living in suburban Indianapolis or Kansas City, though I suspect deep in his heart, he would rather see Hillary elected than endure such a torture.
I do believe that Rob’s theory about Trump being a closet Hillary plot could be correct, though given Trump’s love of money I am not sure I see him willingly squandering the amount of money this will take just to get Hillary in office, unless he sees some big payoff down the road.
I agree. I just joined Ricochet because I believed that there would be a level of respect in the discussions, podcasts, etc. Not sure I will continue to support. However, it has been enlightening to find out who thinks people in the heartland are stupid, and who is mentally classifying some as “white jerks”. I guess that is worth something.
Maybe Trump is angling for an impressive appointment should the Republicans win. The top contenders should offer him a seat at the table in exchange for him backing off. Perhaps not a cabinet post, but a special envoy for international commercial relations. China? Wow! He’s qualified given his success in business and dealings in world markets. It could be sold to the people after a Republican win. Of course you’d risk him keeping his mouth shut and not acting like secretary of state, but it might be worth the gamble if it keeps him from screwing up Rupublican chances for the presidential race.
JPod made a reference early in the podcast to the President “running the country”.
The President runs the GOVERNMENT, not the country, and I like to think (at least until Obama gets through with things) that there’s a difference.
Well, I guess I know who to thank for Bill Clinton’s Presidency, then. Twice.
Just sayin’…
Just sayin’ it’s worse to have voted for Perot than to call several million voters white jerks?
I did vote for Dole, and blaming me for both Clinton terms is pushing it since Bush 41 could not have run in 1996. Well, I was a sucker for a guy who made like he was going to deal with problems that needed to be dealt with, and annoyed by a guy who made like the economy was rosy when my house had lost a quarter of its value in two years. I might vote differently if I had it to do over, or I might not.
On the problem-fixing end, Perot supposedly was going to phase out Social Security. At the time the oldest baby boomers were in their early forties, which made it at least conceivably possible. That window is gone.
The Clinton years did not seem that bad to me, due in large part to Gingrich and the Contract with America, probably partially inspired by Perot’s 1992 showing.
This. I was fairly excited by Perot when he first started flirting with running in 1992. But it also became clear long before election day that the guy was nuts, so the excitement wore off.
There are no similarities between Mitt Romney and Donald Trump. None. Zip. Nada.
Otherwise, I enjoyed the podcast. :)
Wait a minutes, did some say Podhoretz doesn’t get enough speaking time!??
Or was that irony and I missed it?
I am so fond of the GloP podcasts that I hoard them for when I get a chance to take a walk on a beautiful day and make the event even more pleasurable with the engaging voices of Goldberg, Long and Podhoretz enlightening and amusing me as I stride. This one was the exception. Ruined my outing today. Yes, Trump is a blowhard, a clown and certainly not a conservative. And yes, I would not vote for him. Nonetheless, do you realize how inside the Beltway the three of you sounded with your condescension to those of us “Ideocracites” and stupid jerks who cheer his willingness to say what needs to be said? Whether it’s genuine, accidental or feigned, he at least gives voice to us who have none and perhaps encourages other politicians to examine their we-are-all-immigrants banalities and eventual capitulation to the other side. Victor Davis Hansen assesses the loss of his state and the Southwest more elegantly, but not much differently from Trump. Are his admirers cranky old jerks too?
actually enjoy Podhoretz and am glad he is enjoying Harry’s razor blades. GLOP is great. When is the next one happening?
Next week.
Here’s a fellow who says Mr. Podhoretz’s “white jerk” Perot voters were mostly Democrats. Or at least, that Perot pulled the majority of his votes from Clinton who would have won bigger without him.
Will be waiting anxiously. Love Mr. P. and his stories.
I also appreciate Mr. P.’s ability to quickly describe the cultural reference being discussed as i do not know them but gan youtube them. Thanks, GLOP.