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Jonah invites Steve Hayes back onto the Remnant to unveil The Dispatch, their long-teased new venture, of which Jonah is the editor-in-chief and Steve is the CEO. They also discuss the unfolding Ukraine drama and the recent news about the Kurds.
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Actually no. A majority of Republican votes in the primaries were not cast for Trump. Trump used the insane “plurality wins all delegates” rules to win. In South Carolina, Trump got only 33% of the votes, while Rubio and Cruz each won 22% of the votes. But Trump won all 50 delegates. If memory serves, this is the first time that the Republican Party nominated a candidate who was not supported by a majority of the party.
Trump won fair and square. Your beef is with the GOP Ruling Class and the RNC.
Plus why do you think people vote for Trump, anyway? Who is to “blame”?
I have had a lot of snarky thoughts about this venture from the beginning but I think the best response is a shrug.
90% of Republicans support the President. It’s us you hate, not him.
Look at this thread. Three tweets.
Most everyone has one issue that they aren’t “full bore conservative” or at least “centrist curious” on, that should be forgivable. We can have those debates in house.
The schism isn’t purity, it’s snobbery.
My point is the Republican Party as a whole isn’t conservative. Everything moves left all of the time. Trump is just a symptom.
Actually seems to me it is you doing the hating.
Gary: What’s your top two supposedly impeachable offenses right now?
“Romney backing Weld” lol
How unfair, to use the rules as agreed upon to win.
Next you’ll be telling us about how “insane” the electoral college is because the popular vote getter doesn’t always win.
28% of Republicans support an Impeachment Inquiry. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/08/trump-loves-tout-his-base-new-poll-shows-increasing-gop-support-impeachment-even-removing-him/
Please don’t tell me that Trump was the choice of a majority of Republican Primary voters, because for the first time in history, the party nominee did not have the support of a majority of primary voters.
This is just a scam so the President doesn’t get due process and the vulnerable Democrats don’t have to vote. It’s un-American.
Eric Holder didn’t have to respond to any subpoenas and neither does Trump.
Just an inquiry. Which hasn’t happened and won’t happen, because Democrats don’t actually want it to happen.
But if true, then that’s still 72% of Republicans you want to overrule, I guess, to “save your party.”
The numbers are moving. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/two-weeks-in-impeachment-is-becoming-more-popular/
Just before Nixon resigned, a majority of Republicans still supported him. Do you think that Nixon shouldn’t have resigned?
False comparison there.
They spent $42,000,000 on Mueller alone and didn’t even look into the fact that Clinton was working with Russia. Great system. Good thing the media is so honest.
Trump hasn’t done anything for an impeachment vote, but the TAXPAYER and Soros resources thrown at him are working.
It really is.
The rules were set in advance.
The rules were known in advance.
Every player in the race knew the rules and set their strategy accordingly.
So what’s your complaint?
It’s not Trumps fault your various tru-con candidates couldn’t get together and figure out that if they all stayed in the race and split the vote that Trump would beat them (as was apparent to everybody *else* watching the race).
It is certainly the fault of stupid Trump primary voters. Next you will tell us the primary is over and no point debating it anymore. There is weakness in that “support” for Trump among Republicans. Many, if not most “support” him only because the alternative is so awful. Don’t have a problem with that. I was there myself for a while after the Kavanaugh BS. However, Trump has since gone on to show me and a lot of Republicans just why we didn’t want to vote for him in the first place. His foreign policy (or rather lack of one) is appalling! And two things can be true at the same time about that awful phone call and his subsequent actions. Yes, it is another partisan attack by the Democrats and yes, Trump acts like an idiot. Acting like an idiot isn’t enough for some voters to turn against him but it is enough for me. Please spare me the 3D chess comparisons and Trump splaining. Now I am leaving this discussion. I like Jonah, Steve and David and am looking forward to more from them in The Dispatch. I think they are exactly right about Trump.
Was it their stupidity or was it the state of the world that was, in part, created by the stupid GOP?
But it’s not a difficult test, though. One simply asks, “Which of these ‘vastly different ideas’ most accord with broadly agreed upon Conservative principles stretching back centuries, and which do not?”
And I would argue that European-style right wing governance (i.e., biiiiiig government; plenty of entitlements; isolationism; a “strong man” leadership style) does not accord with said principles.
By definition, since Trump didn’t get a majority of the primary votes, it couldn’t possibly be the fault of the “stupid Trump Primary voters” that Trump won the nomination.
It’s the fault of the stupid majority of non-Trump voters who couldn’t get their act together and kept splitting their votes instead of coalescing around a single candidate.
“Libertarian sensibilities” is kind of an elastic phrase. Instead of coming out and calling him a “Libertarian” we give ourselves a little wiggle room. Very adroit.
Jonah is not opposed to a reasonable amount of taxation and he’s far from an isolationist. In other words, he is not a pure Libertarian.
But yes, I understand you weren’t calling him one.
As for the “sensibility” part… do some of Jonah’s positions overlap with those of Libertarians? Of course they do. But some of yours do, too, I would imagine. And certainly some of mine do.
Jonah is much closer to being a traditional, small government Conservative with a few socially Liberal sympathies.
I’m distinguishing him from those guys on that Niskanen Center list, they are ridiculous. Kristol, Nichols, Charon etc.
Another way to put it is, I’d be very confident of things running well if Jonah, or Kevin Williamson, or Charles CW Cook were named dictators of everything. I always welcome what they have to say about Trump.
I’m not sure I can clarify it any better, but I think it matters.
Interesting that that is considered enough to end the conversation. Amazing.
It’s similar to a tendency I’ve been seeing on the Internet a lot lately, particularly in political disputes, where when one person offers up an unassailable fact or analogy to support their argument that the other person has no real rebuttal for, the checkmated person often defaults to a very Gary Cooper like, “Nope,” and leaves it at that.
You see it a lot. “Nope.” It’s the redoubt of the stubborn and the unimaginative. “Nope.” It may even happen here, which would certainly elicit a cheap laugh, but would in no way show how the comparison being offered just now was in any way “false.”
Ask me a question, then.
Let me put it another way. I would likely be far more in favor of their analysis of what is wrong with this country than the other guys.