The Intolerance of ‘Black Lives Matter’ Is Perplexing. I Hope.

 

The Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., led an organized movement against an obvious injustice, using eloquent, simple arguments which were based on sources that few questioned (the Bible and the Constitution), while denouncing violence and emphasizing honesty and integrity. Many argued with him for a while but, eventually, America agreed with him and passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. By passing this law, white America agreed that the way they had treated blacks was wrong and such abuses would no longer be tolerated. The transformation in American society since then has been remarkable. I was born in 1968 and in my 51 years, I have never seen what Rev. King or his contemporaries would call racism against blacks. I’m sure it happens, but it has become extremely rare. Not only are racist acts illegal but they have also become unacceptable behavior for white people in our society, even in private. As they should be.

The Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests which have been sweeping the country over the past month are ostensibly focused on race. But the similarities to Rev. King’s movement end there. BLM is leading a chaotic and unpredictable movement against subtle concepts that are difficult to specifically define, such as micro-aggressions and white privilege. Their arguments are highly variable, unclear, poorly stated, and do not appear to be based on any set ideology or legal framework. They do not denounce violence and frequently seem to actually encourage it. White Americans are desperately competing with one another to prove they’re less racist than the next guy but they can’t meet the demands of BLM, because they’re not sure what they are, exactly, on any given day. There is, however, one consistent message pushed by BLM and their supporters, and it terrifies me:

They tolerate absolutely no debate or discussion. Blacks who question BLM in any way, no matter how small, are branded “Uncle Toms.” Whites who do so are called racists.

A quick aside: If a white person is called a racist, by anyone, just that accusation (regardless of its merit) can destroy that white person’s life. S/he can lose friends, their job, and their place in society with little to no hope of ever recovering from such destruction. That truth suggests that BLM’s claims of widespread systemic white racism against blacks are apparently not anywhere near correct. But, whatever.

My point is that the BLM movement tolerates no dissent. Even from dead people. They destroy statues and attempt to rewrite history, like Muslim extremists and other tyrants all over the world. If a comedian once made a joke they found offensive, that comedian should not be permitted to make jokes about anything else, even years later. Works of art that don’t share their worldview should be destroyed, rather than carefully considered. If a police officer in Minnesota is suspected to be a racist, then police departments across the country should be shut down. The intolerance of the BLM movement and its supporters is breathtaking.

Intolerance of others is always dangerous. This is the genius of our Constitution. Our Founding Fathers recognized that we would often disagree, and used federalism, three branches of government, a nation of laws and not of men, and various other techniques to allow a diverse group of individuals to co-exist peacefully.

But this particular brand of intolerance – the one pushed so hard by BLM and their supporters, I find particularly concerning. And that is because I can think of only two possible reasons for it. Perhaps you can think of others but these are the only ones that come to my mind:

  1. BLM does not permit anyone to argue with their ideology or goals, because no one (including BLM) knows what they are. They understand that any effort to debate their point will quickly show that they don’t have one, and they don’t want to look stupid. I don’t think this is the case but I suppose it’s possible. But I hope this is it because the only other possibility I can think of is…
  2. Their true underlying goals are nefarious and extremely unpopular. They are simply Marxists using their current source of leverage (in this case, racial tensions) to get what they’ve wanted all along – to destroy America. Or, as President Obama put it, “…a fundamental transformation of America.” Make America into something completely different than what it has always been. They despise democracy and capitalism, and seek to transform America into some sort of socialist state with more central control and fewer individual liberties. They denounce racism because they know that most Americans don’t want racism. But they can’t admit that their ultimate goal is Marxism, because they also know that most Americans don’t want that either.

What do you think? Am I overlooking something?

Why are BLM and their supporters so extreme in their intolerance?  Rev. King went out of his way to find areas of agreement with American whites. He based his entire movement on the Constitution and the Bible, and he eloquently explained that all black people wanted was the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. He relentlessly emphasized his hope to have blacks join American society. BLM appears to seek further separation between blacks and American society.

This seems odd. Any minority movement tends to attempt to broaden its appeal, form coalitions when possible, and build support in order to achieve their goals.

That is clearly not what BLM is doing. Why?

Rather than encouraging people to agree with them, they make it harder and harder for people to agree with them. They say that it is no longer good enough to not be a racist — you must be “anti-racist.” I’m not quite sure what that means, but I suspect it means agreeing with whatever BLM says is important this afternoon. And stay tuned for changes tomorrow morning.

Why are the demands of this minority movement so vague, and yet so draconian? It doesn’t make any sense.

I can think of only two possible reasons. And I think one of them is wrong.

And I really hope I’m wrong about the other one. Because if that one is true, if BLM really is nothing more than a camouflaged Marxist revolution, we may have a very serious problem here. A problem that could lead to a very, very, very messy conflict.

What do you think?

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  1. Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing) Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Is BLM Marxist or is BLM not Marxist?

     

    http://ricochet.com/773679/blm-is-a-communist-front-pass-it-on/

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  2. Stad Coolidge
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    The trap is this — if you’re white, and you deny you white privilege — which means denying systematic racism and other mistreatment of various groups — this proves that you display “white fragility,” which proves your guilt.

    This is kinda like the witch test.  Tie a boulder to a woman accused of being a witch and throw her in a lake.  If she sinks, guilty!

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  3. Joshua Bissey Inactive
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    Each passing day confirms my belief that the left is not just anti-white or anti-black, but anti-human. They crave death, destruction, debauchery, plague, mindlessness, and bloodshed; even if they don’t realize it. If our leftists friends aren’t all full-fledged Satan-worshipers, it is only because they have not yet advanced fully enough along the “Freedom Road.”

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  4. Flicker Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    Yeah, I use wikipedia, too. I’ll concede to that. But it I was thinking that we were beyond that in this argument (which is what it technically is).

    I’d like to take the whole wikipedia thing back. It was a cheap and pointless shot.

    No offence taken. And I think it’s fair to question wiki as the only source for a major plank in an argument.

    And I’m not ignoring you, but this pretty well give the bare bones to the answer to your question about BLM being Marxist or not.

    Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing)

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Is BLM Marxist or is BLM not Marxist?

    http://ricochet.com/773679/blm-is-a-communist-front-pass-it-on/

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  5. Bob Thompson Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    They are committing crimes and their stated cause is not credible.

    So accusations of Marxism are being used to motivate a response? 

    What is that about? 

    Is it a false claim?

    Committing violent crimes in the name of a cause that is false and you are concerned that they might have mislabeled themselves? 

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  6. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    The nonviolent tolerance of MLK was already considered passé by the 1970s.  As inner city conditions deteriorated quickly thanks to economic collapse from The Great Society, Vietnam debt, stagflation, the oil crisis, etc. many looked around and blamed their lack of progress on MLK’s principle of nonviolence and tolerance, and came to subscribe to the conspiracy theory that nonviolent protest was invented by the White Man to keep the Black Man down.

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  7. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    What is Marxist about BLM?

    Their founders, for one thing., They proudly admit it.

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  8. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    These BLM founders claim to be Marxists, and act like Marxists in their functioning and language, why do you dispute them? Only a “true” Marxist could lay claim to [drawing] that distinction. Ideologically speaking, who are you to dispute them?

    In addition to Marxists, they are radical lesbians who are declaring war on marriage.

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  9. Marjorie Reynolds Coolidge
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    I may sound like a conspiracy theorist to some of you. The infiltration of post-modernism into the universities, and now its movement outside academia, is complicated and insidious.

    I’ve seen these problems going back to the late 1980s, when I was in college. It was present, in embryonic form, in some of the 1960s radical movements, and in Black Liberation Theology. The first widespread outbreak was the “PC” craze of the 1980s and 1990s. The radical pro-homosexuality and pro-trans movements are aspects of this ideology.

    I didn’t see it characterized as “post-modern neo-Marxism” until around 2017. The earlier labels included “critical race theory” and “critical legal theory.” Third-wave feminism was part of the same ideological movement, as far as I can tell.

    I’ve been studying this, off and on, for about 3 years now. Jordan Peterson has probably been the most prominent opponent to this ideology. 

    There’s an Irish journalist called David Quinn who has written about this in the past. He gets vilified on Twitter and gets a lot of abuse generally. He published a collection of his articles in a book called How we Killed God. I recommend it, as far as I remember there was one from several years back referencing cultural Marxism.

     

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  10. philo Member
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    Dr. Bastiat: If a comedian once made a joke they found now find offensive, that comedian should not be permitted to make jokes about anything else, even years later.

    Fixed it for you…more accurate with respect to these insidiously un-serious times we are in.

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  11. Flicker Coolidge
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    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):
    In addition to Marxists, they are radical lesbians who are declaring war on marriage.

    Thus the “x” in Lesbiinx?

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  12. cdor Member
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    My wife likes to read the newspaper. The cost of the subscription is astronomical. After being married to her for 36 years, I’ve learned not to fight the little battles:

                                                                                                                           LETTER TO EDITOR 

                                                                                                                                         written by:

                                                                                                                                    Gregory Akridge

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  13. Henry Racette Member
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    Good post.

    I’m firmly in camp #2: I think BLM, to the extent that it has a coherent agenda, is Marxist. I also think they have a strong nihilistic streak; what I don’t know is whether they see destruction as a step on the road to collectivism, or rather they see collectivism as a nice excuse for destruction. They’re probably sufficiently diverse and disorganized to have ample numbers of both persuasions, the true collectivists and the smash-and-burn enthusiasts.

     

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  14. Bob Thompson Member
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    cdor (View Comment):

    My wife likes to read the newspaper. The cost of the subscription is astronomical. After being married to her for 36 years, I’ve learned not to fight the little battles:

    LETTER TO EDITOR

    written by:

    Gregory Akridge

    I think the Kansas City Star is the only newspaper that ever carried anything about me in public press. I subscribed when I lived in Overland Park.

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  15. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    Dr. Bastiat: Their true underlying goals are nefarious and extremely unpopular.

    Nefarious, yes. Unpopular? Evidently not. Half the populations of Western countries have been on board for years with these ideas of binding one’s legal standing to political groupings, silencing and outcasting all rightwing advocates, destruction of politically incorrect histories, icons, and media, theft from the upper and middle classes to forcibly redistribute among favorable groups, centralized control of education, and so on. 

    BLM’s ideas are not new or uncommon. The momentum is what has changed. Some on the Left saw opportunities to gain control by another fashionable fury, by peer pressure, and by intimidation. With each step gained, they gain confidence for another. The savvy realized that if they press their advantage then they can afford bolder actions. 

    That momentum must be broken quickly. Freedom of expression is withering with each passing week.

     

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  16. cdor Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    My wife likes to read the newspaper. The cost of the subscription is astronomical. After being married to her for 36 years, I’ve learned not to fight the little battles:

    LETTER TO EDITOR

    written by:

    Gregory Akridge

    I think the Kansas City Star is the only newspaper that ever carried anything about me in public press. I subscribed when I lived in Overland Park.

    Didn’t all your aunts and uncles send you their copy of that issue of the paper (as if you didn’t already have 5 or 6)? Why don’t you post it on Ricochet, just for fun?

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  17. Bob Thompson Member
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    cdor (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    My wife likes to read the newspaper. The cost of the subscription is astronomical. After being married to her for 36 years, I’ve learned not to fight the little battles:

    LETTER TO EDITOR

    written by:

    Gregory Akridge

    I think the Kansas City Star is the only newspaper that ever carried anything about me in public press. I subscribed when I lived in Overland Park.

    Didn’t all your aunts and uncles send you their copy of that issue of the paper (as if you didn’t already have 5 or 6)? Why don’t you post it on Ricochet, just for fun?

    My grandchildren have it for the family history record. But we may have to cancel all that, I mean it’s history. I think the article and picture was about my promotion from serving as the  Treasury Department Regional Disbursing Officer and Director of the Kansas City Regional Financial Center to the position in Washington, D.C. as the Chief Disbursing Officer and Director of Field Operations. That was in 1983.

     

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  18. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    These BLM founders claim to be Marxists, and act like Marxists in their functioning and language, why do you dispute them? Only a “true” Marxist could lay claim to [drawing] that distinction. Ideologically speaking, who are you to dispute them?

    In addition to Marxists, they are radical lesbians who are declaring war on marriage.

    Marx declared war on marriage, and he wasn’t even a lesbian.

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  19. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    I may sound like a conspiracy theorist to some of you. The infiltration of post-modernism into the universities, and now its movement outside academia, is complicated and insidious.

    I object to the characterization of post-modernism as being inherently Marxist and/or left-wing.  There are conservative and/or right-wing interpretations of post-modernism.  Once could even argue that mainstream post-war American conservatism has always been a post-modern movement.

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  20. philo Member
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    Misthiocracy got drunk and (View Comment): [One] could even argue that mainstream post-war American conservatism has always been a post-modern movement.

    I wouldn’t. But what to I know.

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  21. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    I think the Kansas City Star is the only newspaper that ever carried anything about me in public press. I subscribed when I lived in Overland Park.

    Got a couple of inches in the ol’ police blotter, eh?

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  22. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member
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    Misthiocracy got drunk and (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    I may sound like a conspiracy theorist to some of you. The infiltration of post-modernism into the universities, and now its movement outside academia, is complicated and insidious.

    I object to the characterization of post-modernism as being inherently Marxist and/or left-wing. There are conservative and/or right-wing interpretations of post-modernism. Once could even argue that mainstream post-war American conservatism has always been a post-modern movement.

    I completely disagree with the assertion that post-WWII conservatism is post-modern. 

    I agree that post-modernism is not inherently Marxist. Post-modernism should be inconsistent with Marxism (or neo-Marxism), but this doesn’t seem to bother the advocates of post-modernism.

    I think that this is usually because the adherents of post-modernism don’t really believe it, but use it as a tool in advancing their Marxist or, more commonly, neo-Marxist agenda.

     

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  23. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member
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    Zafar asked some good questions about Marxism.

    I think that BLM is technically neo-Marxist, though it’s founders didn’t make this distinction.

    The issue is complex, as different ideas can be included within neo-Marxism. The basic switch seems to be the substitution of “oppressor-oppressed” in neo-Marxism in the place of “capitalist-worker” in Marxism.

    Many groups claim oppressed status – blacks, Indians, homosexuals, women, and the 57 bizarre and incomprehensible variants of whatever trans might be.

    The purpose is the same: overthrow the existing social and political structure, and hope that you come out on top. Oh, and usher in paradise.

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  24. Henry Castaigne Member
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    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):
    MichaelKennedy

    I read the past two days that only 17& of BLM rioters/demonstrators is black. The vast majority are white and quite a few are white millenial women. Here is a nice example although she might be an octoroon.

    https://twitter.com/_sagnikbasu?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1276682947895197697%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Falthouse.blogspot.com%

    This isn’t surprising but it’s not real data. When stuff happens in realtime, there is no data to figure anything out.

    I know a little bit about Seattle and I know that very few people are black round those parts. Probably the whole thing all about privileged white folks. 

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  25. Zafar Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    And I’m not ignoring you, but this pretty well give the bare bones to the answer to your question about BLM being Marxist or not.

    Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing)

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Is BLM Marxist or is BLM not Marxist?

    http://ricochet.com/773679/blm-is-a-communist-front-pass-it-on/

    Thank you, that’s truly fascinating. 

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  26. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):
    The question is who gets to decide? The argument made in the linked article goes back 50 year to the split of the Weathermen (including Obama’s mentors Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn) from the SDS. The SDS followed traditional Marxist class analysis (I personally witnessed a debate between 2 SDS factions, one self-labelled as Stalinists, the other as Trotskyites).

    The linked article does mention (mournfully) the collapse of Stalinism…

    The Weathermen left because of (1) a commitment to violence, and (2) an analysis based on race, not class.

    Link to Weathermen analysis based on race and not class?

    A quick look at The Britannica article on them has:

    The original Weatherman, the “action faction” of the SDS, was led by Bernardine Dohrn, James Mellen, and Mark Rudd and advocated street fighting as a method for weakening U.S. imperialism. At the SDS national convention in June 1969, the Third World Marxists presented a position paper titled “You Don’t Need a Weatherman to Know Which Way the Wind Blows” in the SDS newspaper, New Left Notes. The article, the title of which was taken from a song by American musician Bob Dylan, asserted, among other things, that black liberation was key to the movement’s anti-imperialist struggle, and it emphasized the need for a white revolutionary movement to support liberation movements internationally. The article became the founding statement of Weatherman.

    Which is not quite the same thing as race not class.

    [Edited to add: here’s a link to that paper. TLDR for me, but in case you’re more disciplined.]

    They still called themselves communist revolutionaries (as do Ayers and Dohrn to this day). We saw it again with the 1619 Project which is based on race essentialism (basically the same analysis as white nationalists except with a different group on top). That sparked vociferous denunciations of the Project by the Socialist Workers Party (a Trotskyite org) because its revolutionary intent was based on race, not class and who ran a great series of interviews with leading historians of the American Revolution and Civil War debunking the project. They all consider themselves Marxist even though, for some, they may not meet the textbook definition.

    I could call myself an Evangelical Christian while not believing in Christ. Would it make sense, regardless of whether you believed in Christ or not?

    The SDS/Weatherman early history had a lot about race.  The Symbionese Liberation Army began with a group of white women teaching black prisoners to read.  The book, “Days of Rage” tells the story.

    https://www.amazon.com/Days-Rage-Underground-Forgotten-Revolutionary/dp/0143107976

     

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  27. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    My wife likes to read the newspaper. The cost of the subscription is astronomical. After being married to her for 36 years, I’ve learned not to fight the little battles:

    LETTER TO EDITOR

    written by:

    Gregory Akridge

    I think the Kansas City Star is the only newspaper that ever carried anything about me in public press. I subscribed when I lived in Overland Park.

    Didn’t all your aunts and uncles send you their copy of that issue of the paper (as if you didn’t already have 5 or 6)? Why don’t you post it on Ricochet, just for fun?

    My grandchildren have it for the family history record. But we may have to cancel all that, I mean it’s history. I think the article and picture was about my promotion from serving as the Treasury Department Regional Disbursing Officer and Director of the Kansas City Regional Financial Center to the position in Washington, D.C. as the Chief Disbursing Officer and Director of Field Operations. That was in 1983.

     

    My one newspaper appearance.

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  28. cdor Member
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    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    My wife likes to read the newspaper. The cost of the subscription is astronomical. After being married to her for 36 years, I’ve learned not to fight the little battles:

    LETTER TO EDITOR

    written by:

    Gregory Akridge

    I think the Kansas City Star is the only newspaper that ever carried anything about me in public press. I subscribed when I lived in Overland Park.

    Didn’t all your aunts and uncles send you their copy of that issue of the paper (as if you didn’t already have 5 or 6)? Why don’t you post it on Ricochet, just for fun?

    My grandchildren have it for the family history record. But we may have to cancel all that, I mean it’s history. I think the article and picture was about my promotion from serving as the Treasury Department Regional Disbursing Officer and Director of the Kansas City Regional Financial Center to the position in Washington, D.C. as the Chief Disbursing Officer and Director of Field Operations. That was in 1983.

     

    My one newspaper appearance.

    Not just your only appearance. You were on the same page with the one-legged football player! WOW!

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  29. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    The organization, BLM, want to create an Animal Farm where blacks are ‘more equal’ than other races, ethnicities, cultures, etc.

     

     

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  30. Zafar Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    I think that BLM is technically neo-Marxist, though it’s founders didn’t make this distinction.

    Does that mean that they take factors in addition to economic class into account when considering unearned structural advantages/disadvantages?  Are the outcomes still basically measured in material terms?

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