RIP Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben

 

It is with great sadness that we come together today to mourn the deaths of Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben.  Born in 1889, Aunt Jemima spent her life providing delicious breakfasts for everyone she came into contact with. Since his birth in the late 1940s, Uncle Ben did the same for lunch and dinner. Sadly, their lives have come to end this year in an effort to make amends for their racist pasts. Meals will never be the same.

In related news, Mrs. Butterworth is reported to be on life support. Only 59 years old, she may not be long for this world either. (Old commercials available for viewing under the “About Us” tab at the first link.)

On a more serious note, how in the world is removing well-known African American icons/logos from the public sphere supposed to make anything more equal for the African-American community? Doesn’t removing them just make the field that more unbalanced for them? It’s like the looting and rioting that’s been taking place recently. Things aren’t fair for African Americans! What can we do about it? Destroy the communities in which many of them live and do business! Yeah!

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  1. PHenry Inactive
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    Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben and Cream o Wheat are racist because they have black people on the label. 

    Rice crispies are racist because there are no black people on the label.  

    Sure, changing the labels will make everything all right.  

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  2. Instugator Thatcher
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    James Lileks (View Comment):
    It’s an old custom – “aunt” and “uncle” were used instead of Mrs or Mr., since that would connote some sort of social equality. You find it all over the popular culture of the day. Just saw this yesterday in a 1920 newspaper:

    With an article straight out of Uncle Remus to be an example. Ok, I can see that from the 20’s – a hundred years ago.

    One has to be especially woke to dredge it up today.

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  3. Weeping Inactive
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    PHenry (View Comment):

    Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben and Cream o Wheat are racist because they have black people on the label.

    Rice crispies are racist because there are no black people on the label.

    Sure, changing the labels will make everything all right.

    Speaking of Mr. Wheat, he’s apparently on life support too. Sigh.

     

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  4. Weeping Inactive
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):

    In my family they were used to denote adults of no discernible familial ties, but were friends of the family. In Asia they are used to refer to any elderly person to whom one is unrelated.

    What history are you referring to, because I have never thought of them as anything but an honorific.

    Only in cancel culture are they believed to bad, probably because cancel fascists believe that people of different races are incapable of actually expressing affection for a person of a race different from them.

    It’s an old custom – “aunt” and “uncle” were used instead of Mrs or Mr., since that would connote some sort of social equality. You find it all over the popular culture of the day. Just saw this yesterday in a 1920 newspaper:

    <picture snipped>

    Time travel? You know how to time travel and haven’t that information with the rest of us? That’s rather selfish of you. ;)

    (Sorry. Couldn’t resist)

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  5. Dotorimuk Coolidge
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    I guess I never noticed Mrs. Butterworth’s race. I was too busy pouring half the bottle on my plate.

    What’s offensive about the Cream of Wheat guy? Is there some bizarre origin story? He just looks like a kindly chef to me, ready to serve that bowl of Cream of Wheat to me….if only I could find an Indian maid with butter to spare.

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  6. Weeping Inactive
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    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    I guess I never noticed Mrs. Butterworth’s race. I was too busy pouring half the bottle on my plate.

    What’s offensive about the Cream of Wheat guy? Is there some bizarre origin story? He just looks like a kindly chef to me, ready to serve that bowl of Cream of Wheat to me….if only I could find an Indian maid with butter to spare.

    According to this article:

    ….. Cream of Wheat’s parent company, B&G Foods, issued a statement saying it too has initiated a review of its packaging, which features the image of a black cook widely believed to be based on Chicago chef Frank L. White, who died in 1938.

    Scholars say White’s image replaced Cream of Wheat’s original black mascot, Rastus, a racist caricature of black Americans that commonly appeared in blackface minstrel shows from the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Rastus was depicted as a dim-witted former slave who spoke broken English in early Cream of Wheat ads. Today, the name Rastus is regarded as a racial slur.

    <snip>

    Naa Oyo A. Kwate, associate professor of Africana studies at Rutgers University, said the image of White may have helped Cream of Wheat tone down the overt racism Rastus invoked, but the subtext behind the imagery remains.

    There is also a discussion about the logo’s origins in this essay, under the “Commercial Toms” section.

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  7. Dotorimuk Coolidge
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    Weeping (View Comment):

    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    I guess I never noticed Mrs. Butterworth’s race. I was too busy pouring half the bottle on my plate.

    What’s offensive about the Cream of Wheat guy? Is there some bizarre origin story? He just looks like a kindly chef to me, ready to serve that bowl of Cream of Wheat to me….if only I could find an Indian maid with butter to spare.

    According to this article:

    ….. Cream of Wheat’s parent company, B&G Foods, issued a statement saying it too has initiated a review of its packaging, which features the image of a black cook widely believed to be based on Chicago chef Frank L. White, who died in 1938.

    Scholars say White’s image replaced Cream of Wheat’s original black mascot, Rastus, a racist caricature of black Americans that commonly appeared in blackface minstrel shows from the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Rastus was depicted as a dim-witted former slave who spoke broken English in early Cream of Wheat ads. Today, the name Rastus is regarded as a racial slur.

    <snip>

    Naa Oyo A. Kwate, associate professor of Africana studies at Rutgers University, said the image of White may have helped Cream of Wheat tone down the overt racism Rastus invoked, but the subtext behind the imagery remains.

    There is also a discussion about the logo’s origins in this essay, under the “Commercial Toms” section.

    I wonder how many people did that research, rather than just taking the character at face value. I think the White Left™️ has too much time on its hands.

    I wonder if palefaces like me should call for the removal of Homer Simpson, David Brent, the cast of Seinfeld, every dad in a tv commercial ical et al, for perpetuating white stereotypes. 

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  8. Percival Thatcher
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Pretty soon all sports mascots and commercial product mascots will have to be only White People. No more Indians, Negros, Orientals, Asians, or Hispanics. No one will complain about the White mascots until the Left suddenly realizes that minorities are no longer represented in popular culture. Then the whole fuss starts all over again.

     

     

    I want the two of you to wander into a Chicago bar, the Kerryman, say, or Declan’s Irish Pub, and announce that Notre Dame should give up using that logo because it defames the Irish.

    Do it on March 17th for maximum effect.

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  9. Percival Thatcher
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    Eric D. July has announced that this is the death blow to racism.

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  10. Steven Seward Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Pretty soon all sports mascots and commercial product mascots will have to be only White People. No more Indians, Negros, Orientals, Asians, or Hispanics. No one will complain about the White mascots until the Left suddenly realizes that minorities are no longer represented in popular culture. Then the whole fuss starts all over again.

    I want the two of you to wander into a Chicago bar, the Kerryman, say, or Declan’s Irish Pub, and announce that Notre Dame should give up using that logo because it defames the Irish.

    Do it on March 17th for maximum effect.

    White people are proud of their racial stereotypes! I’m not being sarcastic.

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  11. Charlotte Member
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    Rats. I always liked to think of them as a married couple, and that they were my Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima.

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  12. Hang On Member
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    Misthiocracy got drunk and (View Comment):

    Yet more products I don’t buy anyways so I can’t join a boycott.

    No. You’ve been boycotting them for years but just didn’t know it. Same for me. 

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  13. Instugator Thatcher
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    Percival (View Comment):
    Eric D. July has announced that this is the death blow to racism.

    Awesome! So no need to cancel anything else.

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  14. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge
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    But the company logo and name will surely change too, right?

    Quaker Oats Company | Rugrats Wiki | Fandom

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  15. Metalheaddoc Member
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Instugator (View Comment):

    In my family they were used to denote adults of no discernible familial ties, but were friends of the family. In Asia they are used to refer to any elderly person to whom one is unrelated.

    What history are you referring to, because I have never thought of them as anything but an honorific.

    Only in cancel culture are they believed to bad, probably because cancel fascists believe that people of different races are incapable of actually expressing affection for a person of a race different from them.

    It’s an old custom – “aunt” and “uncle” were used instead of Mrs or Mr., since that would connote some sort of social equality. You find it all over the popular culture of the day. Just saw this yesterday in a 1920 newspaper:

     

    If you are reading a newspaper from 1920, perhaps you should speak with your paperboy/papergirl/paperperson/paperindividual? He/she/xe seems to be late with his/her/xer route. 

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    Good pick by James this time.  18 likes already in this thread, in just a few hours.  Not 4 or 5 like Gary gets, even after SEVEN MONTHS.

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  17. Cal Lawton Inactive
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    Relabel them as Aunt Karen and Uncle Chad.

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    Cal Lawton (View Comment):

    Relabel them as Aunt Karen and Uncle Chad.

    Did you mean Chaz?

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  19. Manny Coolidge
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    Weeping: Born in 1889, Aunt Jemima spent her life providing delicious breakfasts for everyone she came into contact with. Since his birth in the late 1940s, Uncle Ben did the same for lunch and dinner. Sadly, their lives have come to end this year in an effort to make amends for their racist pasts. Meals will never be the same.

    I just don’t understand it.  Both symbols represent – at least for me – represent excellence and achievement.  What am I missing?

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  20. kedavis Coolidge
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    Manny (View Comment):

    Weeping: Born in 1889, Aunt Jemima spent her life providing delicious breakfasts for everyone she came into contact with. Since his birth in the late 1940s, Uncle Ben did the same for lunch and dinner. Sadly, their lives have come to end this year in an effort to make amends for their racist pasts. Meals will never be the same.

    I just don’t understand it. Both symbols represent – at least for me – represent excellence and achievement. What am I missing?

    Obviously you’re still asleep, and need to Woke up.

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  21. Steven Seward Member
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    Manny (View Comment):

    Weeping: Born in 1889, Aunt Jemima spent her life providing delicious breakfasts for everyone she came into contact with. Since his birth in the late 1940s, Uncle Ben did the same for lunch and dinner. Sadly, their lives have come to end this year in an effort to make amends for their racist pasts. Meals will never be the same.

    I just don’t understand it. Both symbols represent – at least for me – represent excellence and achievement. What am I missing?

    The World is upside-down.

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  22. Miffed White Male Member
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    Manny (View Comment):

    Weeping: Born in 1889, Aunt Jemima spent her life providing delicious breakfasts for everyone she came into contact with. Since his birth in the late 1940s, Uncle Ben did the same for lunch and dinner. Sadly, their lives have come to end this year in an effort to make amends for their racist pasts. Meals will never be the same.

    I just don’t understand it. Both symbols represent – at least for me – represent excellence and achievement. What am I missing?

    We won’t have defeated anti-black racism until there are no more corporate branded products that feature blacks.

    Or something…

     

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  23. Weeping Inactive
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    Manny (View Comment):

    Weeping: Born in 1889, Aunt Jemima spent her life providing delicious breakfasts for everyone she came into contact with. Since his birth in the late 1940s, Uncle Ben did the same for lunch and dinner. Sadly, their lives have come to end this year in an effort to make amends for their racist pasts. Meals will never be the same.

    I just don’t understand it. Both symbols represent – at least for me – represent excellence and achievement. What am I missing?

    I don’t get it either. I know Aunt Jemima started out dressed as a stereotypical mammy like the character in Gone with the Wind, but she hasn’t looked like that in years. To me, both she and Uncle Ben and the logo I’ll call Chef Wheat (from Cream of Wheat) all look like modern-day, successful African Americans – people to be proud of. Given that most people probably aren’t even aware of the logos’ pasts (I know I wasn’t with Uncle Ben and Chef Wheat), it would make more sense to me for those who are aware of the logos’ pasts to look at them and be proud of “how far they’ve come” (especially Aunt Jemima) rather than looking at them and seeing only the past and demanding they be removed from the public arena. But that’s not what’s happening; and where we once had three positive African American representations in the public sphere, we now have none. How is that progress?

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  24. Weeping Inactive
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    We won’t have defeated anti-black racism until there are no more corporate branded products that feature blacks.

    Or something…

    And that’s exactly where we seem to be headed. Maybe I’m wrong, but I can’t imagine either of the brands coming back with an African American as part of their logo. It’ll be interesting to see what they decide to do.

     

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  25. Charlotte Member
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    Weeping (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    We won’t have defeated anti-black racism until there are no more corporate branded products that feature blacks.

    Or something…

    And that’s exactly where we seem to be headed. Maybe I’m wrong, but I can’t imagine either of the brands coming back with an African American as part of their logo. It’ll be interesting to see what they decide to do.

    One delightful exception: the new Gerber baby is so adorable she’s almost hard to look at. 

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  26. Weeping Inactive
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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    We won’t have defeated anti-black racism until there are no more corporate branded products that feature blacks.

    Or something…

    And that’s exactly where we seem to be headed. Maybe I’m wrong, but I can’t imagine either of the brands coming back with an African American as part of their logo. It’ll be interesting to see what they decide to do.

    One delightful exception: the new Gerber baby is so adorable she’s almost hard to look at.

    Love it! What a sweetie! But don’t count on the cancel mob not coming for her. After all, her family is white, so she may not be “black enough”. (Yes, yes — I’m feeling very cynical these days. Sorry.)

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  27. Charlotte Member
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    Weeping (View Comment):

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    We won’t have defeated anti-black racism until there are no more corporate branded products that feature blacks.

    Or something…

    And that’s exactly where we seem to be headed. Maybe I’m wrong, but I can’t imagine either of the brands coming back with an African American as part of their logo. It’ll be interesting to see what they decide to do.

    One delightful exception: the new Gerber baby is so adorable she’s almost hard to look at.

    Love it! What a sweetie! But don’t count on the cancel mob not coming for her. After all, her family is white, so she may not be “black enough”. (Yes, yes — I’m feeling very cynical these days. Sorry.)

    Oh, I get it. When I saw that she was adopted into a white family, my first thought was that that was probably some kind of hate crime.

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  28. Instugator Thatcher
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    Charlotte (View Comment):
    When I saw that she was adopted into a white family, my first thought was that that was probably some kind of hate crime.

    It was considered such during the 90’s. 

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  29. kedavis Coolidge
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    Charlotte (View Comment):
    When I saw that she was adopted into a white family, my first thought was that that was probably some kind of hate crime.

    It was considered such during the 90’s.

    Yes, I remember reading about lawsuits in those situations.

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  30. Steven Seward Member
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    Weeping (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    We won’t have defeated anti-black racism until there are no more corporate branded products that feature blacks.

    Or something…

    And that’s exactly where we seem to be headed. Maybe I’m wrong, but I can’t imagine either of the brands coming back with an African American as part of their logo. It’ll be interesting to see what they decide to do.

    Aunt Jemima is going to have to change their name, also.  The name itself brings up more condemnation than does the picture.  When they get rid of the name, will sales plummet?

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