You’re Invited: COVID-19 News for the Rest of Us

 

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The coverage surrounding COVID-19 is mostly pundits, politicians, and policy wonks yelling at each other. If you want to end the lockdown, they say you want old people to die. If you want to extend the lockdown, they say you want to destroy the economy.

This leaves out the rest of us: that vast majority of everyday people who want to protect our physical health along with our economic health. Teachers, nurses, small business owners, and parents from coast to coast are being ignored. And we want to give all of you a voice.

We are accepting submissions on our member portal or to our email. Any member can submit their story (between 500-1,000 words, ideally) for the member feed, and we will choose a select few to go on our website every day. Your entry may be edited for length or clarity.

In addition, we will be hosting a weekly video symposium via Zoom where participants in our written symposium can share their stories. Live participation will be limited to Ricochet members, but video will be available on our website the following day.

The first episode will take place live on Zoom on Sunday, May 17. All Ricochet members can join the call, ask questions, and provide answers. We plan on this being a weekly show as the world learns how to deal with this pandemic.

We want to feature a couple of outsiders each week, including Ricochet members. How are Coronavirus and the restrictions affecting your job, your industry, your kids, and your physical and mental health? Let us know in the comments what message you want to share that is being ignored.

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  1. colleenb Member
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    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    What makes the politics of COVID especially tiresome is that there is a creeping feeling of deja vu. COVID, the issue, is a more costly manifestation of the psychological drama of climate change—economy-crushing steps (making fossil fuels more costly, subsidizing inefficient/inadequate energy alternatives versus shutting down the world economy for months to ineffectually ‘flatten the curve’) , demonizing anyone who questions worst-case scenarios or raises issues of trade off costs, quasi-religious adherence to demonstrably flawed models, novel power grab proposals and almost exactly the same political lines drawn by the same people with the same interests.

    And, of course, the people with the least understanding of the state of knowledge and no interest much less understanding of comparative costs of the actual choices presented will proclaim themselves the voice of both Science and Morality. The original drama was tiresome and annoying. This sequel is even worse. Somebody please fire the writers and change the narrative. The country needs it.

    I started seeing the similarities myself. As yes, it is also worth noting that Bill Gates is behind a great deal of the COVID situation, and he has also “donated” lots of his monies to leverage his being positioned inside the Global Climate Change Hoax.

    Mike Bloomberg has invested 100 million dollars into the idea of contact tracing.

    And the Clinton Foundation is also excited about contact tracing:

    http://thejewishvoice.com/2020/04/clinton-foundation-discusses-creating-army-of-contact-tracers-to-monitor-citizens-who-had-covid-19/

    Clinton Foundation Discusses creating Army Of “Contact Tracers” to Monitor Citizens who had COVID-19

    Former President Clinton, Governor Cuomo, Chelsea Clinton, Governor Newsom, discuss hiring an army of unemployed people or college students to contact people who have been tested positive for COVID-19 in order to learn about where they have been, who they have engaged with, visited etc.

    ” This is going to require an army of folks, the capacity of consideration from individuals to allow for their privacy to be impacted by that kind of acuity of attention based upon where they’ve been and who they talked to ” Governor Newsom

    https://youtu.be/-Ug9XHT9JQQ

    It is easy to see the same inner circle of people who hold the scientists hostage and who are behind the officials who are governmental agency heads in terms of Global Climate Change are now acting the same way with regards to COVID 19. Sometimes when whacked out conspiracy theorists state a mere 400 families run the world, it does seem like there is a bit of truth to the statement.

    What the hell is Newsome even saying there??! I hope when they hire all these people they don’t give them that as their marching orders. They’ll all be milling around for months before they figure out what they’re doing.

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  2. Randy Webster Inactive
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    colleenb (View Comment):
    ” This is going to require an army of folks, the capacity of consideration from individuals to allow for their privacy to be impacted by that kind of acuity of attention based upon where they’ve been and who they talked to ” Governor Newsom

    The correct response to that is MYOB: “Mind your own business.”

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  3. RandR Member
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    colleenb (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment

     

    What the hell is Newsome even saying there??! I hope when they hire all these people they don’t give them that as their marching orders. They’ll all be milling around for months before they figure out what they’re doing.

    What they will be doing is collecting a paycheck while they amuse themselves as best they can, in other words the primary function of any government employee.

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  4. Stad Coolidge
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    ShannonKuzmich (View Comment):
    weaponized compassion

    Boy, that sounds like an oxymoron . . .

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  5. Stad Coolidge
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Even more, I’m an old person who hasn’t lost a minute of work. I’m still walking and talking, as Malcolm Reynolds would say. Open the economy. I’ll take my chances.

    Like the tag line in a Mary Chapin Carpenter song, “I take my chances, I take my chances every chance that I get.”

    Great song, BTW . . .

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  6. Western Chauvinist Member
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    HIPPA is another genius idea, onerous regulation that has the effect of burdening families and caregivers rather than protecting privacy. What we mainly need is protection from the prying eyes of the government! Instead we’re going to get an army of government functionaries whose job is to know where you’ve been and who you’ve talked to. We can only hope they’ll be typically incompetent. 

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  7. Sandy Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HIPPA is another genius idea, onerous regulation that has the effect of burdening families and caregivers rather than protecting privacy. What we mainly need is protection from the prying eyes of the government! Instead we’re going to get an army of government functionaries whose job is to know where you’ve been and who you’ve talked to. We can only hope they’ll be typically incompetent.

    And it arose from the AIDS crisis.  Hard cases always make bad law.  Expect more of it.  Just yesterday on my little neighborhood listserve there was a notice that the Commonwealth of Virginia is hiring tracers who will be working remotely.  Contact tracing is great for STDs.  In this case it will be a great way to extend the lockdown and who knows what other controls will come out of it.

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  8. The Scarecrow Thatcher
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    Spin (View Comment):

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):
    but COVID-19 has a greater than 10% chance of killing several of my older loved ones in the coming months

    10% of the old people have died? Or 10% of the old people who contracted COVID-19? If the latter, your older loved ones don’t have a greater than 10% chance of being killed by COVID-19.

    And of the 10% who tested positive for Covid, how many actually died of the Covid part?

    If two old people have heart attacks and they both die, then one of them is found to be positive for Covid, that’s a Covid death.  Why?*

    If two old people have heart attacks and they both die, and one of them is found to have a cold sore, do they count that as a Herpes Simplex-1 death?  Why not?

    If two old people have heart attacks and only one dies, then the survivor tests positive for Covid, though asymptomatic, do you count the first one as a Covid death? Of course! Because*

    *Though knowing these people, they’d count both as Covid deaths because both patients appeared in the same Ricochet posting.

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  9. jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… Member
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    Two word, “contact tracing”. They’re the latest buzzwords of our oppressors. In Pennsylvania, the governor is establishing a giant army of contract tracers called the CCCC (I can’t even remember what the letters stand for, I couldn’t get past all the communism).

    Governor Wolf has touted this as a great jobs program. Get it? Put everyone out of work and then start a government jobs program. What could go wrong? Once they “track down” (because that is what it is) someone with COVID-19, your friendly CCCC soldier will then trace his/her/zir contacts and these people will be made to quarantine themselves. If some of these individuals live in large households, well, obviously the potential infected person can’t remain there so they will be sent to……jail Hell? Nursing homes? Pish, don’t worry about the details, it’ll all work out great in the end.

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  10. Western Chauvinist Member
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    jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… (View Comment):
    Pish, don’t worry about the details, it’ll all work out great in the end.

    It always does with command and control types.

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  11. Stad Coolidge
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    jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… (View Comment):
    Two word, “contact tracing”. They’re the latest buzzwords of our oppressors. In Pennsylvania, the governor is establishing a giant army of contract tracers called the CCCC (I can’t even remember what the letters stand for, I couldn’t get past all the communism).

    “CCCC” is too close to “CCCP” for me.  If I do get sick, I’m self-isolating at home instead of having a scarlet C put on my digital forehead . . .

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  12. Bill Gates Will Inject You Now Inactive
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  13. The Scarecrow Thatcher
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    jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… (View Comment):
    (I can’t even remember what the letters stand for, I couldn’t get past all the communism).

    @jeannebodine, you are my hero.

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  14. Jimmy Carter Member
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    jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… (View Comment):

    Two word, “contact tracing”. They’re the latest buzzwords of our oppressors. In Pennsylvania, the governor is establishing a giant army of contract tracers called the CCCC (I can’t even remember what the letters stand for, I couldn’t get past all the communism).

    Governor Wolf has touted this as a great jobs program. Get it? Put everyone out of work and then start a government jobs program. What could go wrong? Once they “track down” (because that is what it is) someone with COVID-19, your friendly CCCC soldier will then trace his/her/zir contacts and these people will be made to quarantine themselves. If some of these individuals live in large households, well, obviously the potential infected person can’t remain there so they will be sent to……jail Hell? Nursing homes? Pish, don’t worry about the details, it’ll all work out great in the end.

    Fantastic. Cracked Me up.

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  15. Bill Gates Will Inject You Now Inactive
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  16. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    Don’t worry about the US economy. The State Department’s got it!

    ….it is fitting to recognize the extraordinary lengths to which so many of our public servants have gone in the midst of the COVID-19 crisis. We wrote in early April about how scores of people aspiring to join the Foreign Service were promised employment in the State Department only to be told days before they were to report that their hiring was delayed indefinitely. 

    After some involved bureaucratic gymnastics, they now have been informed that they can begin their careers as Foreign Service officers and specialists later this month. To do this will require them to have their oath of office administered virtually and their initial training begun online, neither of which has been done before. Overcoming the hurdles to make this possible required imagination and enormous effort at State, as well as new flexibilities granted by the Office of Personnel Management and the Office of Management and Budget. 

    In addition to those who soon will join the Foreign Service, the department has enabled a number of civil service employees to be brought onboard.

    All this comes during the incredible challenges posed by COVID-19. State Department personnel in Washington and abroad have reported 262 cases of the virus and five deaths. While some embassy services were curtailed, others had to be ramped up to assist the tens of thousands of Americans trying to get home from overseas. The department coordinated the repatriation of over 76,000 Americans on 810 flights from 126 countries. . . .

    Evacuees like the infected Diamond Princess passengers, overruling President Trump’s directive:

    …This fateful decision helped spread the virus inside the United States.

    President Trump had been told that nobody with the coronavirus would be flown to America.

    The State Department decided to do it anyway without telling him and only made the announcement shortly after the planes landed in the United States.

    According to the Washington Post, as unfriendly an outlet to the administration as there is, “Trump has since had several calls with top White House officials to say he should have been told, that it should have been his decision and that he did not agree with the decision that was made.”

    Who in the State Department actually made the decision? That’s a very good question.

    According to a State Department briefing, the missions were carried out by the Directorate of Operational Medicine within the Bureau of Medical Services. . . .[Th]e Bureau of Medical Services is actually an arm of the State Department.

    [It]. . . is a part of the Bureau assigned to deal with crisis response with a $250 million portfolio and a lot of employees that almost no one outside D.C. ever heard of. At least unless you remember an event at which Barack Obama honored Dr. William Walters, the head of the Directorate, for evacuating Ebola patients to the United States.

    Which came this close to  crashing the US hospital system. 

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  17. Pony Convertible Inactive
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    danys (View Comment):

    My junior high daughter’s grades fell from As & Bs to Fs. First week of remote learning went really well. She turned in all of her assignments. Then she really started missing her friends & teachers. Learning through zoom and accessing all of your classwork & turning it in through online tools became very complicated and burdensome. That synergy, sharing ideas, and reading the confused look on students faces does not come through on Zoom or Meet. She stopped doing her classwork. As she heard more about corona virus death estimates & worried about her grades, she became very anxious and began showing signs of depression. She asked, “What’s the point of doing school work if we’re all going to die from corona virus?” We’ve been working with her & her wonderful teachers the last 3 weeks and she is feeling better and her grades are improving.

     

    When I was a Junior in high school (1976), my family moved. I left a small school where I was a very happy kid with friends I had known most of my life. The new school was very big. So big that nobody noticed the new kid, he was just another kid that you didn’t know. I spent my days going to classes with no communication from anyone.  I became depressed to the point of being suicidal.  

    For some reason, social interaction is very important to youth. Don’t make light of the problem.  I’m not saying you are, just saying don’t.

    The thing that saved me was keeping busy. I bought an old car that needed work. Fixing cars takes money so I got a job. Then I got another job. My Senior year I was working 50 hours per week during the school year. Getting homework done wasn’t a problem. Even then, if you didn’t socialize, you had plenty of time to get your work done in school. 

    I have had an incredibly wonderful life. I credit that car with saving it. I still have that car, and drive it regularly. 

    Help you daughter to find a project to keep her busy. Good luck.

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  18. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):
    Overcoming the hurdles to make this possible required imagination and enormous effort at State,

    Read this as $$$$. . . Your tax dollars at work. Imaginatively. 

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  19. Spin Inactive
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    Aaron Miller (View Comment):
    There isn’t much difference. Because it’s so contagious, most Americans will have been exposed to COVID-19 by this time next year. 

    There’s one huge difference:  you are using a figured based on unreliable infection data.  Wherever you got that number (and I’ve heard upwards of 20% mortality rate for those above 70), if we have all been exposed to COVID-19 by this time next year, then we’ll have reliable infection data, and then we’ll know what that mortality rate really is.  

    You don’t know that your elderly loved ones have a high probability of being killed by the disease.  You just know that it is more likely for them, than other age groups, if they do catch it.  

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  20. RufusRJones Member
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    VERY STRONG LANGUAGE BUT INSPIRATIONAL lol

    *https://twitter.com/FedPorn/status/1259808975421390852?s=20*

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  21. Western Chauvinist Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    *https://twitter.com/FedPorn/status/1259808975421390852?s=20*

    Bwhahahahaaa! 

    My sentiments after attending church yesterday, although a little less. . . inspired!

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  22. RufusRJones Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    *https://twitter.com/FedPorn/status/1259808975421390852?s=20*

    Bwhahahahaaa!

    My sentiments after attending church yesterday, although a little less. . . inspired!

    That was so perfect it was like a script for a movie done by a professional actor. Pure art. lol

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  23. Pat E Inactive
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    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    I’m an old person and I want to reopen the economy.

    Me too.  Let those who fear the Wuhan virus continue to shelter in place and let the rest of us get on with our lives. 

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  24. MarciN Member
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    The information we most need right now is what a positive test for this virus actually means in asymptomatic people. We don’t know how long they have been carrying the disease, which is why the money we are spending on contact tracing seems a bit foolish. We also don’t know if they have developed antibodies. To use a quarantine-shutdown system to contain a virus that we have so little understanding of is ridiculous.

    There is no useful quarantine period that we can assign to people who test positive. Initially, people were quarantined for two weeks, but that turned out to be a joke. Nothing changed in those two weeks. So now the contact tracing could lead to indefinite periods of quarantine for individuals.

    Many viruses like chicken pox remain apparently forever in the human body until an allergic reaction to something stimulates the virus to wake up from where it has taken up residence at the base of the nerves to produce the shingles pain. Warts are a skin virus that can live for decades. I know that because a friend of mine has a few on her hands that have defied topical treatment and being burned out or surgically removed. The Herpes virus is carried by people for the rest of their lives. In other words, we manage these viruses while we live with them.

    Why is it taking so long to get the information we really need on this particular virus? I think it may be a virus that is always with us. So quarantining people is a useless strategy given how infectious it is. We need to focus on how to live with it.

    We need answers. Yesterday.

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  25. The Scarecrow Thatcher
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    MarciN (View Comment):
    Many viruses like chicken pox remain apparently forever in the human body until an allergic reaction to something stimulates the virus to wake up from where it has taken up residence at the base of the nerves to produce the shingles pain.

    I had chicken pox, like everybody. Then I had a crazy bout of shingles during a stressful job (it was during Bush/Gore/Chad).

    Then a few years ago I had an incredible, unrelenting pain in my side. Lasted for months. A lump developed there, as though I had swallowed a baseball. Two MRIs and a CAT scan revealed nothing was there. If I tighten my stomach muscles and concentrate, it goes away.

    It was finally theorized that it is an attack of shingles in my spinal column. The virus damaged my nerve endings to that particular muscle group in my abs, and the “lump” is simply my guts pushing against a section of muscles that can’t contract and hold it back. (Jesus, does it never end?)

    So I’m lumpy. Vanity, what’s that?  We all get lumpy, and hairy, as we get older.

    I just hope if I die of anything, the current powers that be will stay logically consistent and ascribe my demise to Chicken Pox, since that virus is present at time of death.

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  26. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    MarciN (View Comment):
    The Herpes virus is carried by people for the rest of their lives.

    Neuroscientist Dale Bredesen and others consider herpes virus to be one of the causative factors for Alzheimer’s disease, which like most chronic diseases with input from genetic (multiple genes with interconnected expression and regulation) and epigenetic factors such as lifestyle choices, chronic inflammation, past medical history can be thought of as “network illnesses” needing network interventions. Single drugs are inadequate.

    With SARS-CoV-2’s propensity for attacking the central nervous system, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s eventually added to the list of dementia promoters.

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  27. MarciN Member
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    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):
    The Herpes virus is carried by people for the rest of their lives.

    Neuroscientist Dale Bredesen and others consider herpes virus to be one of the causative factors for Alzheimer’s disease, which like most chronic diseases with input from genetic (multiple genes with interconnected expression and regulation) and epigenetic factors such as lifestyle choices, chronic inflammation, past medical history can be thought of as “network illnesses” needing network interventions. Single drugs are inadequate.

    With SARS-CoV-2’s propensity for attacking the central nervous system, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s eventually added to the list of dementia promoters.

    I wouldn’t be surprised either.

    Good connection to draw.

    We make so much progress on Ricochet in our debates.

    I’m just positive it is our healthcare system that needs more discussion and open-mindedness. I think our healthcare system is dysfunctional. I have and will always have undying respect and gratitude to the doctors and nurses who have helped me and my family nd friends. But as a system, I think there is something deeply wrong with how they work in terms of research and development and problem solving. I think they are squelching out-of-the-box ideas that they need to listen to.

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  28. The Scarecrow Thatcher
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    MarciN (View Comment):
    I’m just positive it is our healthcare system that needs more discussion and open-mindedness. I think our healthcare system is dysfunctional. I have and will always have undying respect and gratitude to the doctors and nurses who have helped me and my family nd friends. But as a system, I think there is something deeply wrong with how they work in terms of research and development and problem solving. I think they are squelching out-of-the-box ideas that they need to listen to.

    Just the thing nationalizing it all and turning it over to the government will fix  –  NOT!

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  29. Arthur Beare Member
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    So this thing jumped from bats to people.  We think it is transmitted by droplets exhaled by infected persons.   

    Is there any indication that it has infected other mammals, such as the pets of Covid patients?

    What is the probability of persons living in the same house as an infected person contracting the disease?  I assume that number is high, but less than 100%.

    Does anyone here know the answers to either of these questions?

     

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