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Should Democrats Impeach Trump Again?
Congressional Democrats have opened an investigation into Trump’s response to the Coronavirus. If you ignore the reptilian ethics required to even consider such action, it sort of makes sense, from a political standpoint. Trump has been taking understandably drastic action based on understandably incomplete, highly variable, and very often completely wrong information. His drastic actions have hypothetical benefits but are causing obvious and enormous damages to the economy of the United States and the world. Unemployment is skyrocketing. The stock market is dropping. Even sports and social events have been taken from us. People are hurting. If you’re trying to defeat a popular incumbent with a corrupt, confused, and contrary old white guy, current events may look like a gift from God. Presuming that you’ve been blessed with purely reptilian ethics.
So I sort of understand their investigation, from their standpoint. Once this is all over, in retrospect, surely you can find something that might have been done differently. You have no other cards. So play that one. Fine. In an ethics-free zone, that sort of makes sense. But here’s my question: Should the Democrats impeach President Trump over his handling of the Coronavirus? They attempted their first impeachment of him before he was inaugurated. It was later proven to be nothing more than a desperately partisan witch hunt with no basis in fact. After that, they actually impeached him, and that was later proven to be nothing more than a desperately partisan witch hunt with no basis in fact. Should they do this again?
I think they should. At least, I think that they think that. Their ads could say that he’s been under impeachment during his entire presidency, no president in history has ever had an administration so clouded by controversy, and so on. Facts don’t matter at this point. Joe Biden is your nominee, unless he wanders off before the election. So what else can you do? You’re just trying to paint a picture. If all you have is mud, you sling it. Presuming that you’ve been blessed with purely reptilian ethics.
On the other hand, with a third phony impeachment in just four years, the Democrat party runs the risk of moving past absurdity into, um, whatever it is that is more absurd than absurdity. But I strongly suspect that Congressional Democrats are discussing, in private, what that would look like, exactly. And trying to decide if they care.
I suspect that they probably would care. If they hadn’t been blessed with purely reptilian ethics.
So what say you? I ask two questions:
- Does it make political sense for Democrats to impeach President Trump again, given that much of America is hurting right now?
- Do you think they will?
The Civil War did not kill the Democrat Party. This might but I doubt it. The idiots I see on Facebook know nothing but that Trump is bad, bad, bad. I simply don’t understand the NeverTrumpers. They sound insane to me.
Yeah but they all vote
The reason for both the above answers is that although Democratic representatives in safely blue districts may be game for it, those in red, or purple districts will pitch a fit. Especially those up for re-election this year are going to be under a lot of pressure from their constituents to show that they can get things done, which means demonstrating that they can work with Trump. The Russia and Ukraine hoaxes fizzled in spectacular fashion, so there will be little stomach for a repeat in an election year.
The first job of any politician is to get elected. That will inform their thinking more than partisanship.
Let’s check in with the Sham Wow of the Never Trumpers Bill Kristol:
https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1247580859668062208
Translation: Bill thinks its a great idea.
What a terrible slur on reptiles. Even slimeball is too good because slim at least slime performs a service in nature. Evil. Evil fits.
The Democrats should keeping impeaching Trump until all Amercans realize the Democrats are evil Idiots. They need to impeach him again and again until the Democrat party implodes and disappears.
The only thing they could really impeach for would be maladministration, which in and of itself is not really an impeachable offense. The President is entitled to latitude in the face of a crisis and it is highly doubtful that either the Republican Senate or the American People would be willing to entertain an impeachment at this time. Especially with an Election in 7 months. This all having been said the house democratic caucus is not filled with the sharpest tools in the shed so who knows.
Oh have no fear. The Democrats will wind up screwing something up so badly that another Republican gets elected and at least at this moment there is no third party that could conceivable cause the Republicans to go the way of the Whigs.
Worth spraying coffee on my keyboard!
No and no.
Did they ever hear the story about Chicken Little?
Chicken Little was merely too early. Remember: predictions of doom are never wrong, only mis-timed.
As the Democrat government bureaucracy takes over the elections will matter less. It is not who or how you vote that counts. It is how those that count the votes do it. 75% of the country can vote GOP but if the bureaucrats say they lost, then they did.
If it looks like massive voter fraud is happening in a 50/50 country there will be pretty dire consequences. The permanent bureaucracy will still be democratic and will try to isolate more and more of the agenda from the voters; however, even that can only happen so long without consequences. Whenever one side claims the other side is done for good I have a hard time believing it. I don’t disagree that they would like that to be the outcome. I just don’t believe they can pull it off.
It doesn’t even matter if we have 100% GOP in Congress. Congress has relatively little to say about our government compared to the power exerted by the administrative bureaucrats. The only way Congress can be influential is by lining up with the managers of our government. (The United States isn’t the only country where that state of affairs exists, of course.)
If the GOP has a majority in Congress you don’t think they can curb some of the abuses of the administrative state? Admittedly GOP Congresses tend to be feckless; however, I don’t remember it going all the Democrats way when Obama was president. This isn’t to say they won’t get a lot of what they want and it won’t do a lot of damage to the economy and our lives. Just that I don’t believe we are at the end of politics in the country where one party is assured perpetual power and everything they want in their agenda. I think that is a pipe dream either way.
No, but maybe as red meat to appease the base, to drive turnout from a very unenthusiastic base. So maybe they can internally justify it.
50/50 maybe. They’ll investigate and if they can stretch something into a case. I hope they learned the lesson that a trumped up impeachment wont fly.
What they may not realize that another impeachment will drive republican turnout in swing districts, and they could well lose the house if those 40 seats that went to the democrats swing back to the republicans. Trump will run against the media, and every republican congressmen will be running against Pelosi.
Republicans can try, but so long as constituent services are legal and so many Republican voters elect them on that basis, they won’t have much effect. Yeah, they can make some difference around the edges when playing defense. And they even had a few moments of glory. But that’s mostly for show, for the benefit of voters. They will be careful not to permanently obstruct the administrative state.
I like to think that this is an overstatement. But I’m not at all sure that it is…
Impeach? Sure: What do they have to lose?
Dignity. Credibility. Relevance.
Okay. They’re flat broke already.
Ha! Good one!
I think it’s pretty much the same way in other countries with large administrative states, such as Sweden and the U.K. Weren’t there old episodes of Yes, Minister that made that point for the U.K.?
It’s also why the non-government party has trouble getting good candidates to run for election in the legislature. It’s demeaning to have your job consist of running errands for constituents. Most people want to do more with their lives. I have seen quotes to that effect from people in the U.K. who prefer to stay out of it. I don’t read Swedish, so I don’t have that kind of knowledge there. And I can’t seem to find the book in my Kindle library that describes how the overall system works in that country.
I attribute much of this to McCain-Finegold and the limitations (widely ignored) on fund raising. The member, especially in the House, spends 24/7 “dialing for dollars” while the staff writes the legislation. Actually, I think the insurance lobbyists wrote Obamacare. Hillary, in her clumsy way, excluded insurance and providers of care from her secret “task force” and pissed off everybody. When Pelosi and Schumer got to write Obamacare, they let the insurance industry write it. The incentive was the Mandate. All those involuntary buyers of those gold plated policies. What could go wrong ?
I was complaining about this state of affairs decades before McCain Feingold came along. Well, almost two decades before. I became aware of the problem when my new (leftwing) Congressman in Michigan started bragging about how he was going to emphasize his ombudsman services, and then watched over the next decade as members of Congress used this corrupt system of constituent services to maintain power while being derelict in their duty of legislating.
Campaign finance laws don’t work because people find loopholes.
They are also unconstitutional. Political contributions are a form of political expression protected by 1st amendment. Or should be.
Citizens United didn’t go far enough — individual contributions should be uncapped.
More money doesn’t guarantee victory – ask Hillary in 2008 and 2016
Ask Mike Bloomberg.
They sound insane because they are insane. The Democrats are committing suicide whether they know it or not.
In 1935 they embraced socialism.
In 1965 they doubled down on the New Deal, i.e. Great Society.
In 1972 they embraced global warming Marxism and McGovern.
In 1973 they embraced abortion.
During the 1970s, 80s, 90s, they embraced affirmative action, diversity quotas, LGBTQ, weather underground
During the Obama years: Ramadan, Islam, Iran, transgender bathrooms, sanctuary cities, open borders, amnesty for all illegal immigrants, identity politics, DACA, surveillance state, FBI/FISA nonsense, Steele dossier
The party today is actively recruiting people who hate America.
They are delusional.
Just as Freud opined that the death wish in individuals is a fundamental psychological propensity, Democrats have a death wish for America and themselves. They are trying to kill life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Please point out any mistakes I have made, I think there are a couple at least maybe.
They embraced McGovern in 1972. (I didn’t. It was more like a firm handshake for me.) Global cooling (nuclear winter) was yet to come at that time, and that was before global warming.