I Hate It When That Happens

 

It was going to be so perfect. I had an idea for a great post, I was all set to write it, and then stopped to research one detail. That’s when the whole thing fell to pieces. Let me explain.

By now, everyone is aware of A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood, Tom Hanks’ new biopic of Fred Rogers, known to millions of kids as simply Mr Rogers. It seemed like the perfect jumping off point for a post on how we raise children in this country, particularly in the oh so enlightened twenty-current-year. Because everyone knows that Fred Rogers was a Navy Seal, right? Or maybe it was an Army sharpshooter. Either way, he was a war hero and all around bad-ass.

And let’s not forget about Bob Keeshan, the one-and-only Captain Kangaroo. Lee Marvin, a guy made of leather – and not new leather, but old crusty-hard, sweat-soaked leather – called Keeshan the toughest guy he ever knew. He told Johnny Carson all about it during an appearance on the Tonight Show. According to Marvin, Keeshan was a Marine sergeant, tough-as-nails, and another war hero. You know, a stripped-to-the-waist, knife-in-the-teeth, swimming-across-the-lagoon-at-midnight he-man.

I even had a devastating final point to make; our kiddie shows were hosted by war heroes, guys who had beaten the Nazis and then come home to help raise the generation of children they had fought to protect. And what do we give kids now? Drag-Queen Story Time.

I know, right?

The problem I discovered in my research was that there is very little truth to those stories. Fred Rogers was not a Navy Seal or an Army sharpshooter. Growing up, he was fat and asthmatic. If you look at the guys who become Navy Seals, asthmatics are fairly thin on the ground. And as for Keeshan, he was in fact a sergeant in the Marines, but according to Wikipedia, it was late enough in the war that it is “unlikely he saw any combat”.

Well, damn. I hate it when that happens. (Of course, I would have hated it more if I had found out after I posted it all.)

But then I found that all hope is not lost. I came across any interesting little theory that might just rescue my theorem.

(BTW, this entire episode reinforces my long-held belief that research is bad, and only causes problems.)

 

 

 

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  1. Misthiocracy grudgingly Member
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    You want badass?  James Doohan will show you badass!

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  2. Gary McVey Contributor
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    Jackie Coogan (Uncle Fester on The Addams Family) was a war hero. Mel Brooks fought in the Battle of the Bulge as a combat engineer. Bea Arthur, of all people, was a Marine sergeant. 

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  3. Arahant Member
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    Gary McVey (View Comment):
    Bea Arthur, of all people, was a Marine sergeant.

    Are you telling me anyone would be surprised by that?

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  4. Percival Thatcher
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary McVey (View Comment):
    Bea Arthur, of all people, was a Marine sergeant.

    Are you telling me anyone would be surprised by that?

    Hey @arahant, do you remember Dr. Wilma Dryden from our high school? She might have retired before you had her for a class. WWII Marine sergeant. And Mr. Schwab the science teacher was an officer on Patton’s staff. And the librarian Mr. Bizet once had “silver wings upon his chest.”

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  5. Arahant Member
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    Percival (View Comment):
    do you remember Dr. Wilma Dryden from our high school? She might have retired before you had her for a class. WWII Marine sergeant. And Mr. Schwab the science teacher was an officer on Patton’s staff. And the librarian Mr. Bizet once had “silver wings upon his chest.”

    Don’t remember any of them. After four years of you, they probably all retired. (Or they heard I was coming.)

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  6. Percival Thatcher
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    do you remember Dr. Wilma Dryden from our high school? She might have retired before you had her for a class. WWII Marine sergeant. And Mr. Schwab the science teacher was an officer on Patton’s staff. And the librarian Mr. Bizet once had “silver wings upon his chest.”

    Don’t remember any of them. After four years of you, they probably all retired. (Or they heard I was coming.)

    I know Betty retired the year I graduated. I had her for freshman and senior English. I think that probably finished her off.  One of my classmates said that she was just starting out when he was in high school. Said she was pretty hot.

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  7. RightAngles Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    do you remember Dr. Wilma Dryden from our high school? She might have retired before you had her for a class. WWII Marine sergeant. And Mr. Schwab the science teacher was an officer on Patton’s staff. And the librarian Mr. Bizet once had “silver wings upon his chest.”

    Don’t remember any of them. After four years of you, they probably all retired. (Or they heard I was coming.)

    When my youngest sister got to high school, on the first day of class in choir when he took attendance, Mr. Bell just gaped at her and said “How many of you ARE there? I thought I was done with you and your sisters”

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  8. Arahant Member
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    Percival (View Comment):
    I know Betty retired the year I graduated. I had her for freshman and senior English. I think that probably finished her off. One of my classmates said that she was just starting out when he was in high school. Said she was pretty hot.

    My Father had Betty Eldred, if that’s to whom you are referring. She had a niece of the same name who was in one college class I had. Rowrrrrrrr!

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  9. Gary McVey Contributor
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    I know Betty retired the year I graduated. I had her for freshman and senior English. I think that probably finished her off. One of my classmates said that she was just starting out when he was in high school. Said she was pretty hot.

    My Father had Betty Eldred, if that’s to whom you are referring. She had a niece of the same name who was in one college class I had. Rowrrrrrrr!

    For Arahant fans, that’s practically like the Archbishop telling a naughty joke. 

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  10. Percival Thatcher
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    I know Betty retired the year I graduated. I had her for freshman and senior English. I think that probably finished her off. One of my classmates said that she was just starting out when he was in high school. Said she was pretty hot.

    My Father had Betty Eldred, if that’s to whom you are referring. She had a niece of the same name who was in one college class I had. Rowrrrrrrr!

    Should have said “classmate’s dad.”

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  11. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge
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    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Know what I think it is? I think our culture used to know the importance of having heroes, people the kids can look up to and aspire to be like. So we allowed the spinning of fables around them, and it was good for the children. Then something happened in the 1960s and 70s. It became chic to tear heroes down. “Thomas Jefferson? He wasn’t so great. He got a slave pregnant.” Then we saw the first movie (that I know of anyway) with, not a hero, but an “anti-hero.” Ratso Rizzo in Midnight Cowboy.

    Pretty soon it became fashionable to have every hero of every TV show be damaged somehow. We stopped even using the term “hero” and it became “the lead” or the “protagonist.” SNIP

    The fashion, in good socialist tradition, became to have a “relatable” hero rather than an unattainable perfect archetype, someone who, in their usual misplaced egalitarianism, won’t be any better than the rest of us. The thinking was that Superman would only give us bad self-esteem, so it’s better to have a loser schlub just like us in the main role. But it isn’t better. It’s only led to a generation of depressed little nihilists who hate America and want to kill themselves .

    And unfortunately, before these young nihilists go  out and kill themselves, they now get to make Hollywood TV shows, with the gender fluid and unlikable protagonists attempting to keep our interest in a nonsensical plot line that makes for an unwatchable story.  (We tried to watch “The Politician” on Netflix  the other night and two episodes in we realized we were wasting out  time.)

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  12. kylez Member
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    PHCheese (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    And then there’s this guy who didn’t like to talk about the harrowing combat missions and raids over Germany that he and his crew flew. Fellow WWII pilots have said that Stewart was right in the thick of it. You can tell, that with the exception of maybe a handful of film roles after the war that Stewart, gravitated to less naïve and more struggling, rough, tortured and anguished men especially in the westerns directed by Anthony Mann, as well as in Hitchcock’s Vertigo.

    About Jimmy Stewart’s war record from Military.com:

    His college degree and extensive flight time played to his favor, and he received his commission after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Because he had logged over 400 hours as a civilian, he was permitted to take basic flight training at Moffett and earned his pilot wings. During the next nine months, he instructed in AT-6, AT-9, and B-17 aircraft and flew bombardiers in the training school at Albuquerque, N.M. In the fall of 1943, Stewart went to England as Commanding Officer of the 703d Bomb Squadron, equipped with B-24s. He began flying combat missions and on March 31, 1944, was appointed Operations Officer of the 453rd Bomb Group and, subsequently, Chief of Staff of the 2nd Combat wing, 2nd Air Division of the 8th Air Force. Stewart ended the war with 20 combat missions. He remained in the USAF Reserve and was promoted to brigadier general on July 23, 1959. He retired on May 31, 1968.

    My uncle flew B24 in England. He died in 2005. While going through his things we discovered a 10 x12 glossy of my uncle in uniform and Jimmy in civilian clothes. It was undated with no inscription. My uncle never mentioned it. They did grow up about 15 miles from each other in Pennsylvania but Jimmy was older and I doubt they ever met there. I would include the picture but it is buried in one of my closets.

    A pair of uncles on my dad’s side served in the signal corps with Jimmy’s grandfather. 

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