Service is Just a Tree in Europe

 

There is a tree in the apple tribe and subtribe that is called the service tree. The name has an etymology that has nothing to do with the other word of the same spelling. The Latin name is “sorbus,” and the binomial is Sorbus domestica.

It produces a fruit called the sorb, and it has often been used in making fruit wine and brandies. It is not the most common fruit out there, and perhaps it has been lost to us against its more popular cousins, the apples and pears.

Have any of you had sorbs? Have you had some product of it, such as sorb wine or brandy or jam?

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  1. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Samuel Block (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Samuel Block (View Comment):
    Hey man, once a conversation starts, no telling where it’ll go. Who knows? Perhaps to the Main Feed.

    Going to need more interesting stuff to get there, but I really don’t want to know about your snozzberry consumption.

    Oh no?

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Anyone enjoy any other odd or uncommon fruits or the products thereof?

    Fine, Sam. Let your freak flag fly. Do you know what a snozzberry is?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWXw8hZHKsE

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  2. Samuel Block Support
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    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Samuel Block (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Samuel Block (View Comment):
    Hey man, once a conversation starts, no telling where it’ll go. Who knows? Perhaps to the Main Feed.

    Going to need more interesting stuff to get there, but I really don’t want to know about your snozzberry consumption.

    Oh no?

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Anyone enjoy any other odd or uncommon fruits or the products thereof?

    Fine, Sam. Let your freak flag fly. Do you know what a snozzberry is?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWXw8hZHKsE

    Hey man! Where’d you find that video???

    I’ll just say, I was a different guy before I came here…

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  3. MichaelHenry Member
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    I like peanut butter.

    I like toast and sorb jam.

    That’s what my baby feeds me.

    I’m her loving man.

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  4. Arahant Member
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    It’s definitely good to have you back around here, Michael.

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  5. Al French, sad sack Moderator
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    I have a shipova. a sorbus pear cross.  It tastes pretty much like a pear. The tree is a poor producer relative to my other fruit trees. The fruit is soft and doesn’t keep well. I would not recommend it.

    The place I bought it (see above link) sells many varieties of exotic fruit plants and trees. Many are from eastern Europe and Asia. I bought four or five varieties before I discovered that they are exotic in the US because they aren’t very good. I think the folks who live in the places the varieties are from eat them because they don’t have anything better.

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  6. Al French, sad sack Moderator
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    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    It doesn’t grow here, as it prefers a more cool and moist climate than most of the US. It tends to be a target for all sorts of maladies, such as rot, fungus, aphids, mites, fireblight, borers…is that enough for ya?

    The closest relative here is the Mountainash Sorbus americana. It prefers to grow in places like the Adirondacks, New Hampshire, Minnesota and eastern Canada. It produces loads of little orange berries that birds will devour.

    The Serviceberry, Amelanchier arborea, is extremely common here, with plenty of different named cultivars that people plant because they want something, anything, that will bloom in the spring. If you want to beat back the birds you can eat the berries in June.

    If you want to read funny descriptions of people eating unusual berries, pick up a copy of Michael Dirr’s Manual of Woody Landscape Plants. Unless you are really into horticulture, check the reference section of your library. He says that Serviceberries taste better than highbush blueberries and can be baked into a pie, and that the berries of Sorbus aucuparia can be made into an alcoholic drink. However, his best description ever (which prompted me to plant several of them) is of the fruit of the Blackhaw Viburnum, Viburnum prunifolium:

    …fruit is palatable and has been used for preserves since colonial days; at Blenheim Arboretum on a magnificent November day, a wandering group of demented plantsmen, led by Don Shadow, snacked on the fruits of a particularly heavy-fruited specimen; to watch purple-black juices oozing from the mouths of supposedly civilized men, well, it ranked with the greatest experiences of my life, thankfully no photographs were taken and the entire group is in denial.

    The serviceberry that grows in the Pacific Northwest is the Amelanchier alnifolia. The fruit is edible, but too small and sparse to do much with. I have had jelly made of Canadian serviceberry, which is good.

    There are two species of Sorbus that grow in the Cascade Mountains. They are similar to eastern varieties, but tend to be shrubby and short, reaching maximum height of 12 feet.

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  7. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    PHenry (View Comment):

    Not exactly fruit related, but I recently saw a show about food innovators, and Heinz ketchup was one of the threads. I never knew before Heinz there were lots of catsup/ketchup’s but none made from tomatoes. Mushroom catsup was popular, and I just saw an article about Philippine banana catsup! I am curious now to find non tomato ketchup and give it a whirl. Not sure how banana catsup will go on my fries, but after Poutine I am open to experimentation.

     

    Geo Watkins Mushroom Ketchup

    See the source image

    If you listen to old time radio with ads, you are likely to run across Del Monte telling women that Del Monte ketchup was sweetened with pineapple and just the thing to make cheap meat delicious (think post WWII).

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  8. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

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    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    I don’t think it’s the same tree, but the Serviceberry (Amelanchier grandiflora) is farmed for its berries in Canada. My grandfather, Will Smith, developed a pink Serviceberry cultivar that is now known as the Robin Hill Shad. They are popular with city planners because they tolerate urban conditions and don’t grow taller than telephone wires. Gardeners like them because they flower early, like forsythia. Robin Hill shads flower pink, then turn white in three days.

    Will Smith is your grandfather?!?!?!?!?

    Doesn’t look much like him, does he? I think a DNA test is in order.

    Not the Hollywood Will Smith. The Applesauce Will Smith.

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  9. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    I’m glad you said “not necessarily” because it means I can keep saying that the relationship is not completely clear to me.

    I’m here to please. The Dukes of Mecklenburg were of Wendish descent. So, Queen Charlotte, George III’s wife was Wendish. And all the British monarchs since George III were of Wendish descent.

    That’s funny, she doesn’t look Wendish.

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  10. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member
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    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):
    Not the Hollywood Will Smith. The Applesauce Will Smith.

    I’m going to assume someone already asked if his wife was Granny Smith?

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  11. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
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    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw (View Comment):

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):
    Not the Hollywood Will Smith. The Applesauce Will Smith.

    I’m going to assume someone already asked if his wife was Granny Smith?

    Yes, and she would invariably explain that the “real” Granny Smith was in Australia.

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