John Adams and Alexander Solzhenitsyn Were Right

 

A huge reason for the success of Western Civilization is that our Judeo-Christian faith focuses on improving yourself. You are made in God’s image. Act like it. Look inside yourself. Are there improvements that you could make in your soul? Well sure, but that’s really hard. But with God – the creator and master of the entire universe – watching you and taking a personal interest in your soul, perhaps you might give it a try. So we work at it. With varying degrees of success, to be sure, but we work at it. Our religious leaders are constantly imploring us to study the lessons of the Bible, and take them to heart. Don’t criticize others when you are so flawed. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, and so on. Fix yourself first. A society full of Jews and Christians who truly believe in their God and seek to please him; that society is generally a pretty nice place.

John Adams was characteristically insightful when he observed, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” I would argue that this is true not only of our Constitution but also of any other government ever conceived.

Adams’ point is that if the behavior of people is not governed by their religion, then it must be governed by their government. He was a student of history. He knew that that does not end well.

In Matthew 22:21 Jesus said, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God the things that are God’s.” He understood that government was necessary to manage the affairs of men, but when it comes to managing really important things, like our souls, only God could do that. I would presume that students of the 20th century could reach no other conclusion.

Because government, understandably, takes a different approach. The government manages citizens and things, not souls. So it is essentially in the business of telling people what to do, and what not to do. What else could the government do? There is no other way.

In Christianity, you seek to improve yourself. In government, you seek to improve others. Modern progressives and others who have a great deal of faith in the power of government to improve our lives should stop and consider this very important distinction. And they should consider how well this has worked in the past.

Over the course of history, this has been tried in many different ways. Tribes governed by chiefs. Kingdoms governed by royal families. Socialist systems. Communist systems. And so on and so forth. They all look different on the outside, but on the inside, they’re all the same. They involve telling other people what to do. And for whatever reason, this doesn’t seem to work very well. In fact, these systems seem to rapidly, and consistently, devolve from ineffective to catastrophic. Every time. There is no other way.

It would appear that the only way to improve a society full of people is to improve the actual people. One at a time. From the inside out.

Teachers recognize this phenomenon. A kid from a good family is easy to teach. A kid from a horrible home will be either very difficult or impossible to improve, no matter how talented and dedicated his teachers are. The damage is done. There’s nothing to work with. And good teachers can recognize which kid is which by the end of the first week of school. They know which kids will be in college prep courses, and which will be in detention. They do their best with everybody, of course. But they know how things will turn out. They’ve seen it before.

So as we abandon our religious faith as individuals, we hope that improved government can maintain this very nice society to which we have been accustomed. And despite its flaws, our government is certainly one of the best in the world.

But it doesn’t matter. The damage is done. There’s nothing to work with. Teachers would understand. John Adams was right.

Viktor Frankl felt that freedom was a negative aspect (a lack of something – a lack of oppressive government), and that the corresponding positive aspect was responsibility. He said, “I recommend that the Statue of Liberty on the East Coast be supplemented by a Statue of Responsibility on the West Coast.” He didn’t understand how one could exist without the other.

The government can’t create 300 million responsible, moral individuals, by fiat. That is the work of parents, and of the church. There is no other way.

We’ve tried other ways. Those who believe that morality and ethics can be created by pure reason should stop and think about that if they study the history of the 20th century. Or even studied the history of any era, if you think about it.

To look deep into oneself, and critically judge what one sees, and then undertake to improve upon it to the very best of your ability – that is agonizingly difficult. The government cannot encourage us to do that. Only religion can.

On the contrary, if our behavior is governed by a system of laws, then it is only natural to work around and within those laws as effectively as possible. Most people are reasonable, and that is a reasonable thing to do. But even if your behavior is reasonable, and even legal, it may not be ethical. Which seems harmless. But as it turns out, it’s not harmless. Thousands of years worth of brilliant men, from Moses to Solzhenitsyn, have spent their lives explaining to us why this is so incredibly dangerous.

We pursue wealth and technological advancements to make our lives easier. And it works. I don’t walk to work. I drive a car. With air conditioning. It’s nice. Much easier than walking. And I like easy. We all hope to avoid things that are difficult. That effort to make difficult things easier is human nature, and it leads to many of the things that make our modern lives so pleasant. We prefer easy things over difficult things.

So we naturally prefer the government to religion. Religion is hard. Improving myself is really hard. It’d be so much easier for me to just tell other people what to do. Would I rather seek out the worst flaws of my character and endure the agony of brutal self-criticism and go through difficult work needed to improve them? Or would I rather put a political bumper sticker on my car and go vote? One can understand why so many people choose the bumper sticker.

Who will get more votes? The 1700’s theologian Jonathan Edwards, whose stump speech is “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God?” Or Bernie Sanders, who says you can do whatever you like, and he’ll give you whatever you want? Actually, forget Jonathan Edwards. A nice, unthreatening Republican can’t win elections if he simply suggests that someone has to pay for all of Bernie’s programs. That sounds hard. We, naturally, prefer easy.

Some will choose the bumper sticker. They always have. Understandably. But what happens when a quarter of us do that? Or half? That’s when things get dicey. And then, inevitably, violent.

Choosing the easy path makes things difficult, eventually. It always does.

There is no other way.


When I have an idea for a post, I often just write it as it appears in my head – just dump it onto the page, with little concern for quality. I type fast. This part generally takes 20-30 minutes. No more, because I get bored as quickly as I type.

Once my thoughts are on the page, I save it, and come back to it in a week or a month, when I feel like posting something. At that point, I’ll generally reorganize it, cut its length by half or so, and clean it up in an effort to achieve, well, coherence, at least. This part takes another 20-30 minutes, usually, unless my original version was total garbage. If this part takes more than 30 minutes, I’ll generally consider that post hopeless, dump it, and try another old first draft to work on, if I’m still in the mood.

I came back to this post today to clean it up, and thought, “Eh, whatever.” I’ve been doing that more and more recently. Sorry about that.

So to paraphrase somebody famous that I’m too lazy too look up, “Sorry this is so long, because I was too lazy to make it short.” Or something like that. It’s easier to just post it.

Again, we often choose the easy way. And that leads to sloppy essays and deadly government.

You’re lucky I’m just writing an essay, and not writing policy.

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  1. Saint Augustine Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

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    I’m not talking about guilt the feeling. I’m talking about guilt the fact–corresponding to definition 1 rather than 2 at Dictionary.com.

    Keeping my moral subjectivist hat on for a little longer, let me take up “guilt the fact.”

    . . .

    Well, let’s say I live in Saudi Arabia and I have a Christmas tree in my living room, with ornaments and presents under the tree. I have been told that having a Christmas tree is illegal in Saudi Arabia. Let’s assume for the sake of argument that it actually is illegal.

    Am I guilty of having a Christmas tree? Yes. However, in my mind, I am not guilty of doing anything wrong. The authorities in Saudi Arabia disagree and I suffer the punishment. Should I suffer any punishment for having a Christmas tree? In my opinion, no.

    What is the objective moral truth of the matter? Isn’t freedom of religion an objective good, an objective human right? Isn’t a governments’ violation of a person’s freedom of religion morally wrong, objectively?

    Even if my answer is no, even if I say that I have no access to the objective moral truth, I will still say, “I think freedom of religion, properly defined, is a basic human right.” [Basic human right can be translated into God given right.] But I can’t conscript God into my side of the argument with someone who argues the contrary.

    Someone else might argue that God would not want anyone to engage in idolatry and owning a Christmas tree is idolatry and should be punished by death. They think God is on their side. They think objective morality supports their position.

    This is terribly unclear.  What has this thought experiment to do with you keeping on a moral subjectivist hat?

    Is this thought experiment supposed to be an argument for moral subjectivism?

    If so, it is a terrible argument–or a terribly unclear one.  All you manage to observe is that people disagree about morality.  Is that supposed to be evidence that there is no objective moral truth?

    It’s not.  This sort of argument employs the same reasoning as the argument One scientist has disagreed with another scientists about such-and-such; therefore there is no objective fact of the matter concerning such-and-such.

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  2. Skyler Coolidge
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

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    What is the source of morality? What is the source of mathematics? The answer is the same. Math exists whether or not we perceive math. It is an idea that we have gradually come to understand through the ages, and will continue to understand more and more. There is no limit to the complexity of math.

    So it is with morality. Morality was not given to us. We have come to understand it. Just as some people rebel at understanding some types of math, or use math for the nefarious purposes (such as statistics, which are voodoo math :) ), so can morality be misunderstood and misapplied.

    To say that we rely on a source for the existence of morality would be similar to saying we rely on a source for the creation of math. There is no source. Morality is.

    . . .

    Now, since you brought this up again, how do you reconcile it with what you said on the “Nothing Lasts” thread? You grant that morality and mathematics are objectively true; you grant that morality is absolute; you don’t come out and say that these truths are eternal, but it’s a natural extension of what you say here.

    At “Nothing Lasts” you said that nothing lasts because every real thing is subject to entropy. I agree with all these points about mathematics and moral law–objectivity, absoluteness, eternality. This is part of why I think there are things not made of matter, non-physical things, things not effected by entropy–because no one, so far as I can tell, has been able to explain how any of these things about morality and mathematics can be true if all reality is physical.

    When or if the universe does end, then perhaps so does math, but I doubt it. Since we will never know, the question is moot.

    So you doubt the proposition “Nothing lasts”? That’s good.

    Only insofar as there is no such thing as infinite. 

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  3. Saint Augustine Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    What is the source of morality? What is the source of mathematics? The answer is the same. Math exists whether or not we perceive math. It is an idea that we have gradually come to understand through the ages, and will continue to understand more and more. There is no limit to the complexity of math.

    So it is with morality. Morality was not given to us. We have come to understand it. Just as some people rebel at understanding some types of math, or use math for the nefarious purposes (such as statistics, which are voodoo math :) ), so can morality be misunderstood and misapplied.

    To say that we rely on a source for the existence of morality would be similar to saying we rely on a source for the creation of math. There is no source. Morality is.

    . . .

    Now, since you brought this up again, how do you reconcile it with what you said on the “Nothing Lasts” thread? You grant that morality and mathematics are objectively true; you grant that morality is absolute; you don’t come out and say that these truths are eternal, but it’s a natural extension of what you say here.

    At “Nothing Lasts” you said that nothing lasts because every real thing is subject to entropy. I agree with all these points about mathematics and moral law–objectivity, absoluteness, eternality. This is part of why I think there are things not made of matter, non-physical things, things not effected by entropy–because no one, so far as I can tell, has been able to explain how any of these things about morality and mathematics can be true if all reality is physical.

    When or if the universe does end, then perhaps so does math, but I doubt it. Since we will never know, the question is moot.

    So you doubt the proposition “Nothing lasts”? That’s good.

    Only insofar as there is no such thing as infinite.

    I’m lost.  If there’s no such thing as infinite, would that not be reason to think “Nothing lasts,” not reason to doubt it?

    And, on the subject of math, is there not an infinite number of numbers?

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  4. Skyler Coolidge
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    I’m not talking about guilt the feeling. I’m talking about guilt the fact–corresponding to definition 1 rather than 2 at Dictionary.com.

    Keeping my moral subjectivist hat on for a little longer, let me take up “guilt the fact.”

    So, it seems like you are asking if someone can be guilty of something if morality is subjective. Correct me if I am wrong.

    Well, let’s say I live in Saudi Arabia and I have a Christmas tree in my living room, with ornaments and presents under the tree. I have been told that having a Christmas tree is illegal in Saudi Arabia. Let’s assume for the sake of argument that it actually is illegal.

    Am I guilty of having a Christmas tree? Yes. However, in my mind, I am not guilty of doing anything wrong. The authorities in Saudi Arabia disagree and I suffer the punishment. Should I suffer any punishment for having a Christmas tree? In my opinion, no.

    What is the objective moral truth of the matter? Isn’t freedom of religion an objective good, an objective human right? Isn’t a governments’ violation of a person’s freedom of religion morally wrong, objectively?

    Even if my answer is no, even if I say that I have no access to the objective moral truth, I will still say, “I think freedom of religion, properly defined, is a basic human right.” [Basic human right can be translated into God given right.] But I can’t conscript God into my side of the argument with someone who argues the contrary.

    Someone else might argue that God would not want anyone to engage in idolatry and owning a Christmas tree is idolatry and should be punished by death. They think God is on their side. They think objective morality supports their position.

    Morality is not dependent on jurisdiction.  Custom and statute do not mirror morals. 

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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

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    My reality is a function of what I believe it to be. And I cannot believe something until I can name it. Be that a concrete object or a concept. It may be something else entirely, and it may affect me in ways I don’t perceive, but that’s just not that relevant to what I understand as reality.

    We are the only animal, so far as we know, that names things. We are the only animal that uses this to define and understand reality. The word, spoken or signed, is what makes us human.

    So mind-independent reality is real, but reality-as-we-understand-it is shaped by us? And that shaping involves our beliefs and our names? And this is the essential human function?

    But it’s merely shaped by humans, right? Shaped, cultivated, created in part? Not created out of nothing?

    Human perception creates being human. I am not talking about mountains and forests and, imho, neither is the first verse in Genesis. 

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  6. Saint Augustine Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

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    My reality is a function of what I believe it to be. And I cannot believe something until I can name it. Be that a concrete object or a concept. It may be something else entirely, and it may affect me in ways I don’t perceive, but that’s just not that relevant to what I understand as reality.

    We are the only animal, so far as we know, that names things. We are the only animal that uses this to define and understand reality. The word, spoken or signed, is what makes us human.

    So mind-independent reality is real, but reality-as-we-understand-it is shaped by us? And that shaping involves our beliefs and our names? And this is the essential human function?

    But it’s merely shaped by humans, right? Shaped, cultivated, created in part? Not created out of nothing?

    Human perception creates being human. I am not talking about mountains and forests and, imho, neither is the first verse in Genesis.

    So . . . part of what it means to be the image of G-d involves creating reality–not in the absolute sense of creation out of nothing, but in the sense of shaping what had already been made, in the sense of making new reality out of the old stuff?

    I think Gen. 1:1 is indeed covering mountains and forests.

    But I think we may agree on the other stuff.

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  7. Zafar Member
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    Today I’m thinking the Word was with God, so maybe and maybe not. 

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  8. Saint Augustine Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Today I’m thinking the Word was with God, so maybe and maybe not.

    The Word was with G-d, and the Word was G-d. He was in the beginning with G-d. As we know, G-d creates through His Word, and the Word is no exception, and since nothing is created through itself the Word is not created.  And since nothing is uncreated save G-d, the Word is also G-d.

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  9. Skyler Coolidge
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    since nothing is created through itself

    Says who?

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  10. Saint Augustine Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

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    since nothing is created through itself

    Says who?

    Logic.

    I was referring to a thing’s coming into existence in the first place.

    In a looser sense of “create,” a thing can create itself. It can cause itself to become what it eventually is, as when we speak of a “self-made man.”

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  11. Zafar Member
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    What if it always existed?

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  12. Saint Augustine Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    What if it always existed?

    The Word always existed.  In the beginning it was always with G-d.

    Something that has always existed does not begin to exist.  In the strict sense of the term, it cannot be created.

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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

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    Someone else might argue that God would not want anyone to engage in idolatry and owning a Christmas tree is idolatry and should be punished by death. They think God is on their side. They think objective morality supports their position.

    It’s not. This sort of argument employs the same reasoning as the argument One scientist has disagreed with another scientists about such-and-such; therefore there is no objective fact of the matter concerning such-and-such.

    I was not attempting to provide evidence that morality is subjective.  The reason why I have been putting on my moral subjectivist cap on is to just start from a position where, for the sake of argument, we have not determined whether objective morality exists or not.  

    I agree that we usually don’t say that the statement “the Earth spins on its axis” isn’t an objective truth simply because there might be some people who think it does not.  

    Perhaps I should put my moral objectivist cap on for a second.  

    A few nights ago I watched a professional basketball game between the Toronto Raptors and the Philadelphia 76ers.  The referees, we are told, are objectively calling fouls and determining if a made basket is a 2 pointer or a 3 pointer.  At one point, one shooter was given credit for a 3 point shot but later it was revised to a 2 point shot, using instant replay I suppose.  

    In any case, this reminds me of the philosopher John Rawls’ veil of ignorance.  Imagine that you will soon live in a society but you won’t know your place in that society.  Would you want that society to allow slavery even if you had a 20 percent chance of being a slave and an 80 percent chance of not being a slave.  

    Presumably, Rawls thinks this though experiment would cause us to be more objective as we determine our positions on moral issues.  

    I remember years ago when I told someone that she should support a political candidate for Congress because he supported a cut in property taxes that had been enacted.   The person responded, “Well, I am a public school teacher.  I opposed that tax cut.”  

    She openly stated that her reason for her opposition to this property tax cut was that it impacted her job as a public employee.  Well, maybe what she meant was that there were fewer public school resources for the children after the tax was cut.  

    Still, when we say we want someone to be objective, rather than subjective, we often mean we want someone to be impartial and to not let their own personal investment in the issue at hand to determine their view.  

    In that sense, I think we can achieve something very close to objective morality.  When we decide to say the punishment for armed robbery is 20 years in prison, we know that this punishment would apply to us too.

     

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    However, I can see how a group of people could, while trying to be objective, still end up supporting a view on some issue that is immoral.  

    For example, people might support the burning of witches because they mistakenly believed that witches actually exist and that these witches have caused harm in some supernatural way.  

    Let’s say someone’s corn harvest is worse than expected.  This person blames the woman who lives nearby as having cast a spell cursing his farm land and this is why the town in suffering from a famine.  Not enough food to eat because of the witch.  

    The town folk think this is all rational.  They burn this woman, whom they think is a witch, to death.  

    These people might be objective but they aren’t being rational.  

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  15. Saint Augustine Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

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    Someone else might argue that God would not want anyone to engage in idolatry and owning a Christmas tree is idolatry and should be punished by death. They think God is on their side. They think objective morality supports their position.

    It’s not. This sort of argument employs the same reasoning as the argument One scientist has disagreed with another scientists about such-and-such; therefore there is no objective fact of the matter concerning such-and-such.

    I was not attempting to provide evidence that morality is subjective. The reason why I have been putting on my moral subjectivist cap on is to just start from a position where, for the sake of argument, we have not determined whether objective morality exists or not.

    So it’s more of a Socrates hat?

    I agree that we usually don’t say that the statement “the Earth spins on its axis” isn’t an objective truth simply because there might be some people who think it does not.

    Perhaps I should put my moral objectivist cap on for a second.

    A few nights ago I watched a professional basketball game between the Toronto Raptors and the Philadelphia 76ers. . . .

    In any case, this reminds me of the philosopher John Rawls’ veil of ignorance. . . .

    Presumably, Rawls thinks this though experiment would cause us to be more objective as we determine our positions on moral issues.

    . . .

    Still, when we say we want someone to be objective, rather than subjective, we often mean we want someone to be impartial and to not let their own personal investment in the issue at hand to determine their view.

    In that sense, I think we can achieve something very close to objective morality. When we decide to say the punishment for armed robbery is 20 years in prison, we know that this punishment would apply to us too.

    Yes, in the one sense of the term. But none of this would create a moral truth which is independent of our own preferences if it was not there to begin with.

    The Doctor on Doctor Who imposed a veil of ignorance once on two almost-warring factions. It was the best Rawls moment in all sci-fi.

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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    The Doctor on Doctor Who imposed a veil of ignorance once on two almost-warring factions. It was the best Rawls moment in all sci-fi.

    Another one with an analysis on YouTube.

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