Breaking News: Bernie Sanders May Be a Socialist!

 

There’s an interesting article up on Fox News about Bernie Sanders. It includes multiple video clips of him from his younger years, saying things that make him sound like a Socialist. There are some interesting quotes from Mr. Sanders in this article:

  • “It’s funny sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is because people are lining up for food. That’s a good thing,” he said in one vintage video unearthed by conservative activists. “In other countries, people don’t line up for food, rich people get the food and poor people starve to death.”
  • “The basic ‘crime’ being committed by the people of Nicaragua today is that the government there has the strange and unusual idea that they should attempt to do something for the people of Nicaragua rather than for the United States corporations,” he grumbled in one speech. “It’s a very strange idea for an independent nation to have”
  • “In 1959 … everybody was totally convinced that Castro was the worst guy in the world and all of the Cuban people were going to rise up in rebellion against Fidel Castro,” Sanders said. “They forgot that he educated their kids, gave their kids healthcare, totally transformed the society.”
  • “Reagan and the media, every time Reagan gives them a photo op, it’s going to be thousands of: ‘Oh thank you Mr. President, thank you for telling us another lie.’ The media of course is not allowed to ask sharp questions of the president, that’s not allowed.”

His wife Jane also had some interesting things to say after their tour of the Soviet Union in 1988:

  • “Instead of compartmentalizing their lives into a job and hobbies, it’s all interrelated and all under the banner of community involvement,” she gushed.

That really is remarkable. What on earth was she talking about? If you asked a Soviet citizen about life under communism, I rather doubt that they would answer that way. What an incredibly stupid thing to say.

I remind you that Jane Sanders is a university president.

Reading all this, a few questions crossed my mind:

First, how many people will be surprised, when they read this?  I’m guessing absolutely nobody, but I suppose I could be wrong.  I think most conservatives understand what Sanders is.  Do the Democrat voters who support him understand what he is?  I presume that they do, and that they share his views, which is why they support him.  But perhaps I’m wrong.  Perhaps they think Sanders is a modern Jack Kennedy, who plans to cut taxes and fight communists at home and abroad.  But I don’t think so.

Second, why is this article being printed now, instead of during the previous election?  The author of the article anticipates this criticism, and addresses it with this, the second paragraph:

“Videos of those comments have recirculated online at a furious pace ever since Sanders jumped in the 2020 race Tuesday, this time as a putative front-runner rather than the underdog he played in 2016 against an establishment favorite. With his increased stature, and role in pulling the entire field to the left, has come a tougher look at his long record talking up socialist governments.

They published this now because of Bernie’s “increased stature?”  He seems to play a less significant role in the Democrat party now that he has in the past.  I wonder what the real reason is?  Why publish this now?

Third, I find his public support of Fidel Castro and praise of the USSR interesting.  If David Duke says he supports a Republican candidate, that Republican candidate can disavow him, but it doesn’t matter.  The media will build up that supposed connection until people start to think that they’re old friends.  But a Democrat can praise Fidel Castro, and never face public criticism for his own beliefs.

Fourth, I wonder, if you asked Mr. Sanders to distinguish between a communist government and a socialist government – I wonder what he would say?  Ask him to give the benefits and drawbacks of each.

And then, lastly, I wonder how far out of the mainstream of the Democrat party Bernie Sanders really is.  He may have been a true Communist while much of the Democrat party was supporting Bill Clinton’s efforts and triangulation and moderation to increase voter share.  But now, how many Democrats will publicly criticize these statements from Mr. Sanders?  Heck, how many Democrats publicly criticized him when he actually said them, during the Reagan and Clinton administrations?  So maybe the Democrat party really was this far left the whole time.

When he was running for the Democrat nomination in the last election, his opponent Hillary Clinton was asked, on two separate occasions, “What’s the difference between a Socialist and a Democrat?”  She was unable to distinguish one from the other.

Perhaps she was right.

You could argue that a moderate Democrat is any Democrat who will publicly criticize the quotes listed above.  I look forward to seeing how many moderate Democrats step forward in the coming weeks and months.

I’m not holding my breath.

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  1. tigerlily Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Don’t discount the social pressure to conform on the Left. People who make the transition from progressive to rational lose friends and even employment! Leftism can withstand neither scrutiny nor dissent. It is about coercion, intimidation, and, barring that, isolation. It takes a sturdiness of character to switch sides that most people just don’t have. The exceptions stand out — David Mamet, Dave Rubin, …

    I think it must be very hard to give up leftism for the reasons you mention and for the fact that it is a substitute for religion for the typical Lefty. Have you ever read Radical Son, the autobiography of David Horowitz? It’s a brutally honest book – the most riveting part of which is his re-telling of his efforts to leave the Left. It took him years to make a complete and final break even though he had long since recognized how decadent it is.

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  2. Petty Boozswha Inactive
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    Doesn’t he look like Obama’s pajama boy in that picture?

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  3. HeavyWater Inactive
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    tigerlily (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Don’t discount the social pressure to conform on the Left. People who make the transition from progressive to rational lose friends and even employment! Leftism can withstand neither scrutiny nor dissent. It is about coercion, intimidation, and, barring that, isolation. It takes a sturdiness of character to switch sides that most people just don’t have. The exceptions stand out — David Mamet, Dave Rubin, …

    I think it must be very hard to give up leftism for the reasons you mention and for the fact that it is a substitute for religion for the typical Lefty. Have you ever read Radical Son, the autobiography of David Horowitz? It’s a brutally honest book – the most riveting part of which is his re-telling of his efforts to leave the Left. It took him years to make a complete and final break even though he had long since recognized how decadent it is.

    David Horowitz’s “Radical Son” is one of my favorite books.  Horowitz co-wrote a column in 1984 titled “Lefties for Reagan,” endorsing Reagan’s reelection.  I was a Leftist as a high school student in the 1981-1983 time frame and I had a change of mind in 1984 and voted for Reagan as an 18 year old.  So, Horowitz’s story had a special impact on me.  

     

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  4. Basil Fawlty Member
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    GLDIII Temporarily Essential (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Loved the second photo. “The Freewheelin’ Bernie Sanders.”

    I think the second photo is when Bill and Hillary were love birds

    You are correct. I’ll have to have my glasses checked. Change my comment to “The Freewheelin’ Bill Clinton.”

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  5. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    GLDIII Temporarily Essential (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Loved the second photo. “The Freewheelin’ Bernie Sanders.”

    I think the second photo is when Bill and Hillary were love birds

    You are correct. I’ll have to have my glasses checked. Change my comment to “The Freewheelin’ Bill Clinton.”

    It was the hair wasn’t it? The wild hair was confusing and is something else the Bern hasn’t changed.

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  6. TBA Coolidge
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    GLDIII Temporarily Essential (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Loved the second photo. “The Freewheelin’ Bernie Sanders.”

    I think the second photo is when Bill and Hillary were love birds

    Socialists all look alike to me. 

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  7. Justin Hertog Inactive
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    Bernie is a useful idiot for communist countries.

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  8. I Walton Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    It’s interesting how Bernie Sanders will say that he is a Democratic Socialist and his supporters (and maybe even Bernie Sanders himself) will point to Denmark as an example of Democratic Socialism in action.

    But I have always wondered this: Why didn’t Bernie and his wife spend their honeymoon in Denmark? They chose to spend their honeymoon in the Soviet Union instead. So, one need not be paranoid to see a bit of a bait and switch going on.

     

    Maybe because Denmark has a freer economy than the US, and being tiny they  work to improve matters even further.  We haven’t been able to do that yet.  Venezuela doesn’t count.  Their only foreign exchange earner, (other than narcotics) is oil so it took them less than 20 years to switch payments from the oligarchy to the military elite, the Cubans and their little circle.  The Democrats are getting better, control more but it will still take them several administrations to make it stick. 

     

     

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