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How Will the Left React to This Latest from Trump?
NEW: Exclusive: Trump admin. launches global campaign to end the criminalization of homosexuality in dozens of nations where it's still illegal to be gay, US officials tell @NBCNews, a bid aimed in part at denouncing Iran over its human rights record. https://t.co/cRaPJdw8C1
— NBC News (@NBCNews) February 19, 2019
Ignore it? Find a problem with it? You don’t think they’ll just… applaud it, do you?!
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Is it though?
I mean, is this a major policy initiative or just a one-off thing?
No, not really. I’m just annoyed that I didn’t predict your entirely predictable response.
Could that be projection on the parts of the Dems? Because they use such tactics all the time. They are against gay marriage during their campaigns, but the Dems all know that is just a tactic to get elected. So it doesn’t occur to them that Trump might actually be sincere.
Which part of the left?
Reasonable Left: Hey lets take the win!
Unreasonable Left: Its racist to ask people to not throw gay people off roofs.
Only a racist would try to reduce racism.
You do realize that you are essentially saying, “la la la, I can’t hear you!” in different words, yes?
There is no reasonable left. Those people we once called “liberals,” but there was a great sorting over the last 10 years, and they either shifted into full-on leftists or realized what classical liberalism really means.
We can say as much as we want about this, but the fact is that Trump just did something that no other president ever did. That has got to be a thumb in the eye of every Democrat. The likelihood that it will do any good for the gay people around the world is minimal, but that a Republican president did something that Democrats have never and would never do certainly has to have some impact on the LGBQ-etc. community. It may just piss them off, but it has to open a very real question in their minds about all the negatives that have been said about Trump.
He hasn’t actually done anything yet.
I submit your criticism is solely based on your dislike of Trump, with no logic or serious thought behind it.
So you’re saying that he is fully qualified to receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
For comedy gold! You bet.
(Is that a thing?)
boomBOOM!!
I called this, didn’t I?
I think that the thrust of the initiative is first to keep governments from killing and otherwise oppressing homosexuals. The reaction that Trump is hypocritical for not endorsing this or that from the activist agenda is coming from people who are themselves too self-consciously multiculturalist to call out abuse by Islamic countries which is a far more directly relevant form of hypocrisy.
Please see comment #43.
Starting at 1:36 of this clip, Niall Ferguson says there’s a useful distinction between Trump the man and the Trump administration. It seems couldn’t be better illustrated than it is by this story.
Um, he did?
So, there’s a few things wrong with that comment. First, Trump didn’t know anything about it. Second, this is a continuation of an Obama-era policy from 10 years ago:
Look, it’s unreasonable to expect a President to know every sparrow that falls. That wasn’t my point.
When this came up, and I suggested that Donald Trump did not personally know about this or that it wasn’t his initiative, I was criticized for daring to suggest such a thing.
Because I must hate Trump or something to dare, dare suggest that a guy with zero interest in gay right, or in policy, might not know about what the US amb. to Germany was doing.
Comment #43 shows that I was in the right. Donald Trump didn’t know anything about this.
Look, this is a great thing. This is the kind of thing I can get behind. But I’m not going to give Donald Trump credit for something he knew nothing about.
Fred, I was agreeing with you.
In that case, I was just elaborating my point.