Good News: Here Comes Gen Z

 

I have been seeing this trend through my own child and her friends who are Gen Z. Extremely practical, level-headed, hard-working youngsters who scoff at political correctness. They aren’t ‘conservative’ in the classic sense, but they lean in that direction, mainly because they’ve seen through the absurdity of today’s leftist ideals and attempts at radical social reform.

Teenagers rebel. They usually find a weakness in the arguments their parents and teachers make. Because of rapid changes, parents and teachers are more out of touch, advising them to play by the old, outdated rule books. Or to abide by the political priorities and remedies they themselves believed most effective.

Generation Z seems to be rebelling against left-wing excess. Part of the ‘rebellious’ behavior is simply ignoring them, working hard, and not looking to others (government) to solve their problems.

As a side note, I’m seeing young YouTube commentators who can run rings around professionals on major networks, this impressive young man being one of them.

Published in General
This post was promoted to the Main Feed by a Ricochet Editor at the recommendation of Ricochet members. Like this post? Want to comment? Join Ricochet’s community of conservatives and be part of the conversation. Join Ricochet for Free.

There are 63 comments.

Become a member to join the conversation. Or sign in if you're already a member.
  1. Ed G. Member
    Ed G.
    @EdG

    Gary McVey (View Comment):
    But I wouldn’t get all whooped up about it, as Filmklassik says. They aren’t Republicans. They aren’t thinking about the Second Amendment. They aren’t joining Generation Opportunity. It could go either way.

    Can it go either way? Socially liberal but fiscally conservative tends to go only one way in practice, IMO. Libertarian? Not really; no one seems to be agitating to dismantle the discrimination law apparatus. At best, as some have said, they don’t support the crazier propositions of the SJW’s. Yet. Intersectionality and identitarianism are still the reigning tag team champions. They are still liked, and going too far is no reason to go back to Jim Crow and handmaids tale. Or so I hear from time to time.

    • #31
  2. Gary McVey Contributor
    Gary McVey
    @GaryMcVey

    Generation X is defined as people born 1964-82. 1982 to 2000 are the millennials. The oldest member of Generation Z is 19. I wouldn’t be too quick to make lasting pronouncements about them yet. I answered your question, Filmklassik, so here’s a couple of my own: Why is it preordained that the left wins? And is there any alternative to doing what they do, only better? 

    • #32
  3. filmklassik Inactive
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    There are no inexorable cultural patterns. None. Unless nobody lifts a finger. The Overton Window doesn’t get shifted because we crack down on ISPs, or send protest letters to Disney, or threaten to boycott Spielberg. It gets shifted when cultural work swings back our way–when we do it better than they do. Not until then.

    Of course we can. It takes practice, brains and talent. These are not exclusive to the left, no matter what the left says.

    You fight culture with the weapons of culture.

    Yep.  You fight culture with the weapons of culture.  Agreed, Gary.  But here’s the problem.  Strike that — the problems:

    The Progressives have the schools.  All of them.  K through 12, then college, then graduate school.  So kids are receiving a fully immersive curricula in Social Justice and Political Correctness and Men & Women are the same and America sucks and White People are guilty of blood libel and Intersectionality is a great and glorious thing and backwards reels the mind.

    The kids are marinating in this stuff, almost from the womb, and certainly from kindergarten onward.

    And are they laughing these ideas off?   They are not.  Oh, we tell ourselves they are (“My son and his new roommate?  They were cracking jokes about their orientation seminar on Tolerance & Diversity!  You should’ve heard ‘em!”). Whatever.  The harsh truth is, they are not laughing them off.  Just ask Chris Rock and Jerry Seinfeld or any number of perfectly anodyne comedians who can’t play campuses anymore because they’re not PC enough.

    Recent polling shows that Gen Z’ers and young Millennials are internalizing this stuff, which is a far cry from the kids who greeted these ideas with amusement and derision in Tom Wolfe’s good-but-not-great novel I am Charlotte Simmons from 20 years ago.  

    The new hatchlings?  They’re absorbing it.

    Okay, that’s the schools, Gary.  We can’t fight them there.   

    So how about scripted media then?

    D’ooohhhh!  The Progs have a stranglehold there, too.  Do you wanna talk about how intersectional and nauseatingly PC movies and TV have become in the last few years?  Please.  I’m guessing you’re in LA, Gary.  Maybe you’re even in the entertainment industry, or were.  (I am)  Trust me — it’s as Regressively Left as you’ve heard.  Utterly intolerant — nay, hostile — toward any ideas that deviate from the Progressive party line.  And getting more so by the week.

     

    • #33
  4. Ed G. Member
    Ed G.
    @EdG

    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    Conservatives don’t fight for the culture, won’t work for a better culture, and unlike the Left we won’t risk a penny on changing it but are always grief-stricken when the Overton Window keeps shifting away.

    So what do they think is going to change it?

    Some of us have (had) some hope for YouTube and other social media outlets. Milo; Sargon; Crowder; Gavin McInnes; Pepe; mostly fair hearings and good discussions on the Rogan podcast; Jordan Peterson. Is there really a substitute for school and mass media though? Rush Limbaugh had a huge impact on the culture. Yet more kids than ever think socialism is ok. But hey, we’re gaining some on abortion. As good as that is, even if it were to ever actually turn into reversal of Roe v Wade, it hasn’t actually stopped NY from cheering the passage of a later term abortion bill in the here and now. Will the pendulum start swinging again? Maybe, but we shouldn’t be so confident that it will ever swing our way again. It might just go perpendicular.

    • #34
  5. filmklassik Inactive
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    Generation X is defined as people born 1964-82. 1982 to 2000 are the millennials. The oldest member of Generation Z is 19. I wouldn’t be too quick to make lasting pronouncements about them yet. I answered your question, Filmklassik, so here’s a couple of my own: Why is it preordained that the left wins? And is there any alternative to doing what they do, only better?

    Preordained?  Nothing is preordained, Gary.  I’m just looking at polling and trend lines, that’s all.  Like, if you weighed 200 pounds in June and 220 in July and 240 in August and the polling I’ve done (of your friends, your family, and you) indicate your crummy exercise and eating habits have only gotten worse in the last few weeks, doesn’t it make sense that I would forecast another significant weight gain for you in September?  (And possibly a heart attack by Thanksgiving?)

    Now, your wife or kids or friends might say, “Just you wait!  Gary can turn things around!”

    And indeed you can, Gary.  You’ve got the potential.  But the data indicates you haven’t the desire.

    So your potential means little in the face of what you’ve done, and, more importantly, what you’re doing.

    In other words, to forecast good news in the face of all contrary data and trend lines is to be guilty of a term I first heard on the Commentary podcast:  Wishcasting.

    • #35
  6. Gary McVey Contributor
    Gary McVey
    @GaryMcVey

    I grew up in the greatest, luckiest expansion of wealth and freedom in the history of the world, and America’s biggest upcoming problem was going to be handling all that prosperity. General Motors was a global behemoth. Pan Am was the world’s most admired airline. Civil rights progress was so rapid that grateful Blacks would be sending us Valentine’s Day cards. 

    But then…Vietnam, Watergate, busing, the 1973-74 gasoline crisis, the 1974-75 recession that was the sharpest in 30 years, an explosion of bad social indicators…

    If you’d polled or trended me and my classmates at age 19, I’d have said that the trend was towards Lunar living, a replacement of money with Roddenberry Credit Units, flying cars, and every guy having five girlfriends. I just don’t think trend lining these guys makes sense yet. 

     

    • #36
  7. filmklassik Inactive
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    I grew up in the greatest, luckiest expansion of wealth and freedom in the history of the world, and America’s biggest upcoming problem was going to be handling all that prosperity. General Motors was a global behemoth. Pan Am was the world’s most admired airline. Civil rights progress was so rapid that grateful Blacks would be sending us Valentine’s Day cards.

    But then…Vietnam, Watergate, busing, the 1973-74 gasoline crisis, the 1974-75 recession that was the sharpest in 30 years, an explosion of bad social indicators…

    If you’d polled or trended me and my classmates at age 19, I’d have said that the trend was towards Lunar living, a replacement of money with Roddenberry Credit Units, flying cars, and every guy having five girlfriends. I just don’t think trend lining these guys makes sense yet.

    Well, maybe it wouldn’t make sense … or make as much sense … if it wasn’t for the existence of two places:  Canada and Western Europe.   But we can’t ignore those places.  Why?  Because as we’ve seen (and as I indicated in a previous post) when those places go in a certain direction, we always — invariably — within 10 or 15 years — follow suit.  The only exception that leaps to mind is the metric system. 

    But on matters of recreatonal drugs … and sex … and health care … and political correctness … and attitudes toward Israel (have you seen the Democratic Party lately?) … and in the very near future, free speech … so goes Europe, so goes America.

    And between that nearly unbroken, Europe-to-America pattern (it really is extraordinary), and all the polling of young people I alluded to (“Socialism is good, bro!  And we also need to put in, like, hate speech laws in America, too!  Cuz hate speech is totally, like, bad, bro!!”) … between those two things — which are empirical, not subjective — I remain pessimistic.

    • #37
  8. Jack Hendrix Inactive
    Jack Hendrix
    @JackHendrix

    Can’t say I disagree all that much with @filmklassik. I put up the link to the pew study showing that the gen z’ers are more progressive in nearly every dimension. Wasn’t trying to be a downer, but I did want to inject a healthy skepticism into the debate…

    • #38
  9. filmklassik Inactive
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    Jack Hendrix (View Comment):

    Can’t say I disagree all that much with @filmklassik. I put up the link to the pew study showing that the gen z’ers are more progressive in nearly every dimension. Wasn’t trying to be a downer, but I did want to inject a healthy skepticism into the debate…

    Thanks.  And isn’t it weird how all the polling data says down down down — uh oh! and yet so many people are seeing up up up — hooray!!

    The disconnect here between perception and reality is incredible.  And I’ll be damned if I know what accounts for it.  (Wishful thinking?)

    • #39
  10. Jack Hendrix Inactive
    Jack Hendrix
    @JackHendrix

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Jack Hendrix (View Comment):

    Can’t say I disagree all that much with @filmklassik. I put up the link to the pew study showing that the gen z’ers are more progressive in nearly every dimension. Wasn’t trying to be a downer, but I did want to inject a healthy skepticism into the debate…

    Thanks. And isn’t it weird how all the polling data says down down downuh oh! and yet so many people are seeing up up up — hooray!!

    The disconnect here between perception and reality is incredible. And I’ll be damned if I know what accounts for it. (Wishful thinking?)

    Well I’m not terribly surprised, I think a lot of older conservatives were hoping for a tidal shift circa 2016… especially since my gen (millennial) is decidedly left of center.

    I love the “but my nephew” stories and of course they’re true, no generation is monolithic. But I can tell anecdotes too. I was judging policy debate for high schoolers and I overhear a group talking about a peer who had recently “declared” herself to be gender fluid. No mockery in the discussion, a weird reverence. 

    A few months ago I brought up how frustrating it is to be at a dc law school and be one of a handful of conservatives. It is a failure on the right to persuade and alarming. I think some just write those kids off. Bad idea if you ask me. The kids I go to school with are terribly bright and buy in to a host of nominally conservative values – marriage, hard work, moderation, delayed gratification. These are 24-5 year olds and they laugh at the idea of conservativism. Something’s wrong and I fear trouble down the road.  

    • #40
  11. filmklassik Inactive
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    Jack Hendrix (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Jack Hendrix (View Comment):

    Can’t say I disagree all that much with @filmklassik. I put up the link to the pew study showing that the gen z’ers are more progressive in nearly every dimension. Wasn’t trying to be a downer, but I did want to inject a healthy skepticism into the debate…

    Thanks. And isn’t it weird how all the polling data says down down downuh oh! and yet so many people are seeing up up up — hooray!!

    The disconnect here between perception and reality is incredible. And I’ll be damned if I know what accounts for it. (Wishful thinking?)

    Well I’m not terribly surprised, I think a lot of older conservatives were hoping for a tidal shift circa 2016… especially since my gen (millennial) is decidedly left of center.

    I love the “but my nephew” stories and of course they’re true, no generation is monolithic. But I can tell anecdotes too. I was judging policy debate for high schoolers and I overhear a group talking about a peer who had recently “declared” herself to be gender fluid. No mockery in the discussion, a weird reverence.

    A few months ago I brought up how frustrating it is to be at a dc law school and be one of a handful of conservatives. It is a failure on the right to persuade and alarming. I think some just write those kids off. Bad idea if you ask me. The kids I go to school with are terribly bright and buy in to a host of nominally conservative values – marriage, hard work, moderation, delayed gratification. These are 24-5 year olds and they laugh at the idea of conservativism. Something’s wrong and I fear trouble down the road.

    Me too.

    • #41
  12. Nanda "Chaps" Panjandrum Member
    Nanda "Chaps" Panjandrum
    @

    Make no mistake, gentleman…I am well-aware of the overarching trend. I am not in a position to impact trends; I am in a position to impact those in my own ambit, and I see the difference I’m making.  No denial, but a choice to follow the impact I’m able to have.

    Life is made of individual choices, that are not necessarily counted in statistical trends. Thanks for the opportunity to opine.

    • #42
  13. Jon1979 Inactive
    Jon1979
    @Jon1979

    Interesting story from seven years ago in the Los Angeles Times on polling results for Baby Boomers from the 1960s through the Oughts. Past performance is not indicative of future results, of course, but if you had taken the pulse of political analysts in, say, 1977, in the wake of Watergate and the Democrats’ big election wins in 1974 and ’76, most would likely have told you the progressivism of the Boomer generation was frozen as solid as Han Solo in a block of carbonite. The key points at the end —

    Ideological beliefs moved too. In the 1986 Time poll, 64% of the baby boomers polled said they had become more conservative since the 1960s. When asked about their ideological identification, 31% said they had been liberal in the 1960s and ’70s, but only 21% described themselves that way in 1986. The number identifying as conservative rose from 28% to 41%.

    The ideological reorientation of early boomers that began in the 1980s has continued. Two of the country’s best long-running surveys show how those born between 1943 and 1958, the so-called near-olds at the front of the baby boom, have changed. In the 1972 American National Election Study survey, 30% of today’s near-olds called themselves liberals. In 2008, 12% did. The proportion calling themselves conservative rose from 21% to 46%. In 1972, 51% of eligible voters in the early baby boom cohort called themselves Democrats and 29% Republicans. In 2008, 45% said they were Democrats and 48% said they were Republicans. The National Opinion Research Center’s data also show a substantial increase (18 points) between 1974 and 2010 in conservative identification for the near-old cohort and a smaller movement in the GOP’s direction. Those born between 1927 and 1942 changed far less in both surveys.

    • #43
  14. filmklassik Inactive
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    I’m just curious to know when, exactly, those who still cling to the grey-bearded notion that “These young Liberals?  They’ll change, yoooooou’ll see” will finally concede that “Uh oh, I guess they didn’t change.”

    Will they concede this point in 5 years?  10 years?  20 years?

    When will they finally give up the ghost on this absurd “truism”?  Because at a certain point, they’ll have to.

    • #44
  15. Gary McVey Contributor
    Gary McVey
    @GaryMcVey

    I’m not Pollyanna-ish, I’m not particularly cheery about the culture, I don’t think it’s going to auto-correct itself. I’m conservative; I don’t think a guardian angel is going to fix things. Plus, as far as the greybeard thing goes, I’m clean shaven.

    But I’m not a doomster. I worked in Hollywood since the Seventies and retired two years ago. I know the battles we won and lost (and in the case of Mel Gibson, both at the same time). I worked with most of the town’s conservatives. I don’t see it as a young/old thing, Filmklassik. I see it like this: are you going to give up? I’m not. I’m going to make a grandiose comparison, and shoot me down if you care to: one of the most noble and wise of mankind’s peoples were once European intellectuals, too timid, too idealistic, too proud in their own way to change their habits and views to reflect times that called for something drastically different. Their grandchildren today are Israeli commandos, tough, resourceful and feared. They didn’t have it “in the blood”; they had to learn it. So can we.

    • #45
  16. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo
    @BossMongo

    Gary McVey (View Comment):
    one of the most noble and wise of mankind’s peoples were once European intellectuals, too timid, too idealistic, too proud in their own way to change their habits and views to reflect times that called for something drastically different. Their grandchildren today are Israelis commandos, tough, resourceful and feared. They didn’t have it “in the blood”; they had to learn it. So can we. 

    Outstanding.  Thanks, Gary.

    • #46
  17. filmklassik Inactive
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    I’m not Pollyanna-ish, I’m not particularly cheery about the culture, I don’t think it’s going to auto-correct itself. I’m conservative; I don’t think a guardian angel is going to fix things. Plus, as far as the greybeard thing goes, I’m clean shaven.

    But I’m not a doomster. I worked in Hollywood since the Seventies and retired two years ago.

    God. You were there when they were actually making good movies. I know it’s a cliché to say that the seventies were the best time for movies, at least in America. For me it is actually one of my TWO favorite eras for motion pictures.  I dig the 1940s, and 1967-1981.

    But that’s neither here nor there.

    Anyway, of course I don’t have to tell you that anti-conservative sentiment has only intensified in the last few years. And of course my own politics are sub rosa. A few close friends know about them, but no one else. And yes, I’m in FOA.

    And no, I’m not giving up; not by a long shot. Being a clear-eyed realist about the state of things is not the same as throwing in the towel.

    Just like not throwing in the towel is not the same as having blinders on. (Maybe that’s the more pessimistic way of looking at it.  If so, apologies.)

    I try to be a force for good where I can (read: an exponent of classically Liberal values), in my own little corner of the world, both personally and professionally.

    But the math is daunting. We are heavily outnumbered, as you know.  And again, those bastards have the culture.

    And also as you know (but so many other conservatives do not), the culture, finally, is all that matters.

    • #47
  18. Gary McVey Contributor
    Gary McVey
    @GaryMcVey

    Filmklassik, this interchange is like one of those scenes in a Robin Hood movie where two men who won’t back down end up tossing each other into a frozen English river, and end up being in the same crew. Often they also end up friends.

    But did it have to be in February? Damn. 

    • #48
  19. filmklassik Inactive
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    Filmklassik, this interchange is like one of those scenes in a Robin Hood movie where two men who won’t back down end up tossing each other into a frozen English river, and end up being in the same crew. Often they also end up friends.

    But did it have to be in February? Damn.

    Ha. Was my last comment even remotely combative? If so, I apologize Gary. That wasn’t my intention. And as a tangible sign of my contrition, I will next do what Robin of Loxely did not, and hurl myself into the fridged waters.

    • #49
  20. Gary McVey Contributor
    Gary McVey
    @GaryMcVey

    And I’m willing to kneel in the snows of Canossa to reciprocate!

    • #50
  21. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo
    @BossMongo

    Stop it, @filmklassik and @garymcvey.

    Gettin’ weird, man.

    • #51
  22. Ian M Inactive
    Ian M
    @IanMullican

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy secretly (View Comment):

    Guruforhire (View Comment):

    Gen Z may have the Gen X problem. Not enough of them to matter.

    The fact that there are fewer of them is one of the reasons they’re more conservative.

    The more populous cohorts believe very strongly in proportional democracy because they’ve got the votes to dominate the political process. The less populous cohorts believe in individualism because they see that their votes are effectively useless against the electoral juggernaut that was born before them.

    The less populous cohort also enjoys a professional advantage, as there are fewer of their peers competing for the same jobs. Unfortunately, the flip-side is that the more populous cohort ahead of them will dominate the management positions.

    Generation Z is not more conservative. Good lord, this is a canard on the order of Bigfoot, Nessie and the Piltdown Man. Recent polling shows them to be at least as Progressive as Millennials.

    At least.

    Completely disagree. I was in engineering college as a millennial and ALL of my science/engineering friends were liberals who watched the Daily Show and Bill Maher. We were forced to watch An Inconvenient Truth in an engineering class and my classmates enjoyed it. 

    Thats completely different than the other reports in this thread of Generation Z.

    By far the biggest difference, though, is Generation Z has Jordan Peterson and others to show them the light. When I was in school, we had jack [CoC] to rebut the endless stream of indoctrination. That is a huge difference, and one that everyone involved is aware of to boot.

    • #52
  23. filmklassik Inactive
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    Ian M (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy secretly (View Comment):

    Guruforhire (View Comment):

    Gen Z may have the Gen X problem. Not enough of them to matter.

    The fact that there are fewer of them is one of the reasons they’re more conservative.

    The more populous cohorts believe very strongly in proportional democracy because they’ve got the votes to dominate the political process. The less populous cohorts believe in individualism because they see that their votes are effectively useless against the electoral juggernaut that was born before them.

    The less populous cohort also enjoys a professional advantage, as there are fewer of their peers competing for the same jobs. Unfortunately, the flip-side is that the more populous cohort ahead of them will dominate the management positions.

    Generation Z is not more conservative. Good lord, this is a canard on the order of Bigfoot, Nessie and the Piltdown Man. Recent polling shows them to be at least as Progressive as Millennials.

    At least.

    Completely disagree. I was in engineering college as a millennial and ALL of my science/engineering friends were liberals who watched the Daily Show and Bill Maher. We were forced to watch An Inconvenient Truth in an engineering class and my classmates enjoyed it.

    Thats completely different than the other reports in this thread of Generation Z.

    By far the biggest difference, though, is Generation Z has Jordan Peterson and others to show them the light. When I was in school, we had jack [CoC] to rebut the endless stream of indoctrination. That is a huge difference, and one that everyone involved is aware of to boot.

    Yeah, I often feel like Donald Sutherland and Brooke Adams in the last half-hour of INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS.  

    It really is bizarre.  

    • #53
  24. Could Be Anyone Inactive
    Could Be Anyone
    @CouldBeAnyone

    I am late to this discussion but the video was not persuasive. I will go through the reasons why in detail below.

    1 ) Businesses fail, expand, and are sold everyday. Whoever the guy is in the video gives no details about those few transactions and how they are related to the wider market, aside from cost differences. If I remember correctly he only mentions 3 different websites. He does not do any analysis of which mediums Gen Z uses, the closest he gets is talking about Pewdie Pie, so we do not even know if it is relevant to the discussion of Gen Z being more conservative.

    Many on Ricochet complain constantly about all the mainstream media sites being left wing. If so, then what does the sale of a few websites matter? That doesn’t speak at all to market share of Progressives in media consumption.

    2 ) He mentions a Hispanic Heritage Foundation study on Gen Z and that they identify as Republicans. Here are the links to that source, since he conveniently didn’t look through it for the viewer.

    https://hispanicheritage.org/50000-generation-z-high-school-students-identify-republican/

    https://public.tableau.com/profile/mycollegeoptions#!/vizhome/PresidentialPolling-Fall2016/PresidentialPolling2016

    I would implore anyone still interested in this discussion to look at both links. Now look at the first link. It says that Gen Z high school students identify as Republicans. Now look through those links for anywhere, aside from the title, where party affiliation is mentioned. Look long and hard. It is not mentioned anywhere. The closest it gets is which candidate the high schoolers wish to vote for.

    Now some might argue that voting for Trump signals being a conservative or a Republican, which is tenuous at best, but only 32% of the whole survey wanted to vote for him. Compare that to percentage who approved of Obama’s Presidency, which was 43%, and those who disapproved, only 23%. Strikes me as if Gen Z is plenty progressive if nearly half of them approved of Obama’s Presidency.

    Look further at their top news sources and issue concerns. Their top concerns are education, economy, and gun rights. Heck, environment is more important than taxes to them. Racism matters more than national security. Their top news sources are parents, cable news, and social media (and their teachers are top news sources for 40%). That hardly seems like rebelling against their parents or teachers if their top sources of information are them, which signifies trust. Far more progressive than conservative.

    So that study hardly supports his point.

    3 ) He mentions Gen Z working individual jobs, like teaching lessons or some other small gig work, as proof that they will be more conservative than Millennials. How so? Claiming to working some small gig is hardly evidence of wanting to be, or being, conservative. They probably earn so little income from those jobs that they don’t even pay taxes, whereas when they worked at those darn institutions they would see tax effects–payroll tax–in their pay checks, and as mentioned before with his own study they don’t care about taxes, only 9% claimed it was a top political concern.

    So again, very little support from that anecdotal attempt.

    4 ) There is considerable evidence from well regarded polling organizations like Pew Research that Generation Z is fairly progressive. Even the one source cited in that lame Forbes Article in the video hints at Gen Z being just as progressive as Millennials. According to the Generational Kinetics group, which is the organization that the Forbes article cites,:

    Gen Z is much less inclined than other
    generations to see illegal immigration as a
    problem.

    Gen Z is the least likely of all generations to
    think there is equal opportunity for minorities
    to succeed at work or business in the U.S.

    Gen Z is the generation least likely to see the
    Affordable Care Act as negatively impacting
    their ability to get affordable or quality health
    care, but they are less likely than Millennials to
    think they have access to affordable, quality
    health care because of the Affordable Care Act.

    Gen Z, the generation that for the most part
    cannot vote yet, reports a much greater level
    of trust in current elected officials than Gen X
    and Baby Boomers.

    That hardly strikes me as a more conservative, let alone conservative, generation than Millennials. (I should also note that those quotes capture most of that report, which has far more flowery interpretation than data analysis.) I could belabor you with the more detailed work from Pew but this is already a long reply. According to polling groups Gen Z is not conservative. You know what, I will belabor you all.

    Gen Z and Millennials differ from older generations in views on Trump, role of government and growing diversity in U.S.

    Gen Z Republicans more likely than other Republicans to say blacks aren’t treated fairly

    Gen Z, Millennials most likely to see link between human activity, climate change % saying …

    About three-in-ten Gen Zers, Millennials say there are other countries that are better than the U.S.

    That looks pretty progressive to me. Most likely to think other nations are better than America. Second most likely, by 2 points, to believe that human activity affects climate change. Most likely to believe blacks are not being treated fairly. Most likely to think government should do more to solve problems. Most likely to think that ethnic/racial diversity is good for society. Only a third approve of the President’s performance.

    5 ) Given all the above the video is wishful thinking. The guy uses a few incidents that have little-to-no connection, his own anecdotes, and a few un-examined quotes to conclude that Gen Z is “rebelling” against Progressives and becoming conservative. Poor sensationalist reporting to say the least.

    • #54
  25. filmklassik Inactive
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    Could Be Anyone —

    Way to go on your comprehensive (and nearly unassailable) post.

    But all of this effort (yours, mine and other people’s) strikes me as going through laborious contortions in order to prove that the world, in fact, is not flat.

    Because of course the world is not flat.

    Duh.

    And of course Millennials and Generation Z’ers represent the most Progressive cohort in U.S. history.  Their entrenched beliefs are truly frightening, and I am referring now specifically to their affection for socialism, unquestioning belief in structural racism, unquestioning acceptance of Political Correctness, disdain for the idea of American Exceptionalism, and on and on and on.

    It’s insane.

    And a new Gallup Study (less than one week old) shows conclusively just how far Left the Democratic Party has lurched in the last 17 years.  But the most disturbing part of that study …

    … the scary part …

    … the take-note-of-where-the-life-jackets-and-exits-are part …

    — is the data showing that college-educated whites are getting dramatically more Progressive and more “woke” by the year.  With no end in sight.

    Here’s NR’s David French writing about it:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/white-progressives-polarizing-america/amp/

    • #55
  26. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    In sum, we’re doomed.

    • #56
  27. filmklassik Inactive
    filmklassik
    @filmklassik

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    In sum, we’re doomed.

    Nah.  We’re not doomed, we’re just Canadian.  Or rather, we will be in 10-15 years.

    And yeah, that’s bad enough.  The end of the American Project is bad enough.  It’s awful.  But life will go on.  

     

    • #57
  28. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    In sum, we’re doomed.

    Nah. We’re not doomed, we’re just Canadian. Or rather, we will be in 10-15 years.

    And yeah, that’s bad enough. The end of the American Project is bad enough. It’s awful. But life will go on.

    Plus there’s theology and eschatology.

    • #58
  29. Could Be Anyone Inactive
    Could Be Anyone
    @CouldBeAnyone

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    In sum, we’re doomed.

    Why?

    • #59
  30. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo
    @BossMongo

    Could Be Anyone (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    In sum, we’re doomed.

    Why?

    Because we’ve got a bunch of knucklehead kids who know doodley and squat about how the world works that think they’re ready to assume the reins of national leadership.

    • #60
Become a member to join the conversation. Or sign in if you're already a member.