Through A Tweet, Darkly

 

I understand lynching now.

The way the Covington boys were treated brought me a moment of clarity.  The fundament for this understanding came not from the left (I know what to expect from them) but from the right.  Watching in near real-time as thinkers, writers and pundits that I may not agree with but used to respect go off like Roman candles at the mere hint of a whiff of the notion that white teenage males wearing MAGA hats were everything bad in this world was a wake-up call.  Those poseur “conservatives” are every bit as intellectually brutish, morally smug, and ideologically craven as those leftists that I despise so.

First, if you went off on a hair trigger after seeing a sliced and diced snippet of film taken at a political event and published by the mainstream media and assumed the very worst about people ostensibly on your side, then you are stupid. You aren’t bright enough to have gleaned the least clue as to the left’s hate-mongering, smear-hungry, hysterics-reliant playbook. Congratulations, you got played. It did not even occur to you that the March for Life would bring leftist provocateurs out of the woodwork to ply their sinister and dishonest trade.  Really?  Not even a little bit?

You are also stupid because, despite all your proclamations and protestations about being reasoned, balanced, phlegmatic thinkers, you cannot resist turning your opponents into two-dimensional cardboard cutouts. That’s what muttonheads do. Despite your smarts, you cannot see your opponents as three-dimensional moral agents.  You cannot take a digital moment to ponder “why would they do that? Did they do that? What are the odds this happened as stated?”  Sad.

Your provided aid and succor to those that would take your liberty, your property, and your legacy because you don’t like MAGA hats.

If you were willing to cast every aspersion upon a bunch of kids and throw in with the rabid digital mob that wanted to dox, punch and kill these kids, then I beg you to take some time for introspection. If you could do that digitally, then you could, in the flickering light of the torches, help body surf the rope over the crowd to string up that uppity black boy that allegedly looked inappropriately at a white girl. Honest truth.

C’mon. Wake up.

I wouldn’t presume to ask you to study critical thinking, reason, and rhetoric.  You had to have had all those classes, even if you didn’t internalize them. I would admonish you to get off of Twitter. It’s hurting you. It’s hurting the way you think, the way you process information, and the way you weigh variables. I don’t know if it’s the thrill of being part of a digital mob, the instantaneous feedback, or them there dopamine hits all the egg-heads talk about, but it brings out your worst self.

If you are addicted to dopamine, c’mon down; I’ll teach you how to generate it unilaterally, internally. Because you aspire to be a conservative, I’ll give you a rate.

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  1. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    This thread reads like an orgy of the anti-anti-Trumps.

    Wait, there’s an orgy??

    It’s an orangey!

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  2. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    How much credibility and legitimacy would a Trump Skeptic media maven have earned by doing an hour’s worth of digging and coming out on the front end with a repudiation of the story? Instead, they went all in with the mainstream media.

    These cats need to up their game.

    Which brings up the truly sad point. Forget pro-/anti-T bias for a moment: what is going on in the world of “journalism” (quotes back atcha!), including opinion “journalism?”

    I don’t think competent reporting can occur at Tweet speed.

    Can competent anything occur at Twitter speed?

     

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  3. Jager Coolidge
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    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    The fact that some of my anti-Trump brethren accepted the MSM narrative because the utes were wearing MAGA hats is unfortunate, but not totally unreasonable. There are punks out there that call themselves “The Proud Boys” or somesuch and do go looking for trouble. They are probably outnumbered 50 to 1 by Antifa and related nitwits, but they are still there.

    No it is totally unreasonable. There are an awful lot of people who have bought/wear those silly red hats. 

    The Crips street gang used to wear a lot of Dodgers Caps. That does not mean that any person in a Dodgers cap should be treated like a gang member. 

    There is no confusing 16-17 year old boys for Proud Boys. The similarity ends at exactly, they were white and may were the same hat. A Catholic School trip is easy to distinguish from a group of Proud Boys. They should be treated separately because they are completely separate things. 

     

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  4. Flicker Coolidge
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    Boss Mongo (View Comment):
    Wait, there’s an orgy??

    As always, I’m never invited to the orgy.

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  5. Boss Mongo Member
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    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    My first reaction when I heard of this incident was that it was too cute, the paradigm was just too exact – another Duke Lacross or UVA frat house or Tawana Brawley situation, and that turned out to be the right call.

    Explain, please.  I don’t associate any of these imbroglios with the word “cute.”

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  6. Petty Boozswha Inactive
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    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    My first reaction when I heard of this incident was that it was too cute, the paradigm was just too exact – another Duke Lacross or UVA frat house or Tawana Brawley situation, and that turned out to be the right call.

    Explain, please. I don’t associate any of these imbroglios with the word “cute.”

    I meant the facts fit their preconceived agendas too well.

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  7. Columbo Inactive
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    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    This thread reads like an orgy of the anti-anti-Trumps.

    Wait, there’s an orgy??

    Any freaking hot Latina assassins involved? Be the death of you. 

     

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  8. Petty Boozswha Inactive
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    Jager (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    The fact that some of my anti-Trump brethren accepted the MSM narrative because the utes were wearing MAGA hats is unfortunate, but not totally unreasonable. There are punks out there that call themselves “The Proud Boys” or somesuch and do go looking for trouble. They are probably outnumbered 50 to 1 by Antifa and related nitwits, but they are still there.

    No it is totally unreasonable. There are an awful lot of people who have bought/wear those silly red hats.

    The Crips street gang used to wear a lot of Dodgers Caps. That does not mean that any person in a Dodgers cap should be treated like a gang member.

    There is no confusing 16-17 year old boys for Proud Boys. The similarity ends at exactly, they were white and may were the same hat. A Catholic School trip is easy to distinguish from a group of Proud Boys. They should be treated separately because they are completely separate things.

     

    Not checking first before opining was totally unreasonable. Thinking that it might be true was not.

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  9. Buckpasser Member
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    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    My first reaction when I heard of this incident was that it was too cute, the paradigm was just too exact – another Duke Lacross or UVA frat house or Tawana Brawley situation, and that turned out to be the right call.

    Explain, please. I don’t associate any of these imbroglios with the word “cute.”

    I meant the facts fit their preconceived agendas too well.

    My question is why so many “conservatives” (I know, I know) had the same preconceived agenda.

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  10. Petty Boozswha Inactive
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    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    My first reaction when I heard of this incident was that it was too cute, the paradigm was just too exact – another Duke Lacross or UVA frat house or Tawana Brawley situation, and that turned out to be the right call.

    Explain, please. I don’t associate any of these imbroglios with the word “cute.”

    I meant the facts fit their preconceived agendas too well.

    My question is why so many “conservatives” (I know, I know) had the same preconceived agenda.

    A lot of them have been doxxed or attacked at home or on the street by zealot Trumpkins. They are willing to believe there are a lot of MAGA nuts running around looking for somebody to punch out, as if they were at a MAGA rally.

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  11. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    Jager (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    The fact that some of my anti-Trump brethren accepted the MSM narrative because the utes were wearing MAGA hats is unfortunate, but not totally unreasonable. There are punks out there that call themselves “The Proud Boys” or somesuch and do go looking for trouble. They are probably outnumbered 50 to 1 by Antifa and related nitwits, but they are still there.

    No it is totally unreasonable. There are an awful lot of people who have bought/wear those silly red hats.

    The Crips street gang used to wear a lot of Dodgers Caps. That does not mean that any person in a Dodgers cap should be treated like a gang member.

    There is no confusing 16-17 year old boys for Proud Boys. The similarity ends at exactly, they were white and may were the same hat. A Catholic School trip is easy to distinguish from a group of Proud Boys. They should be treated separately because they are completely separate things.

     

    Not checking first before opining was totally unreasonable. Thinking that it might be true was not.

    Stereotyping is good!

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  12. Buckpasser Member
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    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    My first reaction when I heard of this incident was that it was too cute, the paradigm was just too exact – another Duke Lacross or UVA frat house or Tawana Brawley situation, and that turned out to be the right call.

    Explain, please. I don’t associate any of these imbroglios with the word “cute.”

    I meant the facts fit their preconceived agendas too well.

    My question is why so many “conservatives” (I know, I know) had the same preconceived agenda.

    A lot of them have been doxxed or attacked at home or on the street by zealot Trumpkins. They are willing to believe there are a lot of MAGA nuts running around looking for somebody to punch out, as if they were at a MAGA rally.

    Wow.  I’m happy I don’t know any such people.

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  13. jeannebodine Member
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    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    My first reaction when I heard of this incident was that it was too cute, the paradigm was just too exact – another Duke Lacross or UVA frat house or Tawana Brawley situation, and that turned out to be the right call.

    Explain, please. I don’t associate any of these imbroglios with the word “cute.”

    I meant the facts fit their preconceived agendas too well.

    My question is why so many “conservatives” (I know, I know) had the same preconceived agenda.

    A lot of them have been doxxed or attacked at home or on the street by zealot Trumpkins. They are willing to believe there are a lot of MAGA nuts running around looking for somebody to punch out, as if they were at a MAGA rally.

    There they go again. That Darn Media©, covering up for the many crimes committed by  Trump supporters.

     

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  14. Petty Boozswha Inactive
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    Having someone show up on your doorstep and harangue your wife or kids is no fun. Ask Eric Erickson, a former NeverTrumper who’s capitulated and now supports Trump.

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  15. Boss Mongo Member
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    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    A lot of them have been doxxed or attacked at home or on the street by zealot Trumpkins.

    Citations, please.

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  16. Petty Boozswha Inactive
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    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    A lot of them have been doxxed or attacked at home or on the street by zealot Trumpkins.

    Citations, please.

    See above or listen to Jonah’s The Remnant at about minute 55:00.

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  17. Instugator Thatcher
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    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    A lot of them have been doxxed or attacked at home or on the street by zealot Trumpkins.

    Citations, please.

    See above or listen to Jonah’s The Remnant at about minute 55:00.

    I would think a citation would be “on date XXX, Erick Erickson was accosted by <insert picture of the elusive zealot trumpkin> and as a result Erick is now singing President Trump’s praises”

    There is no such reference above. Despite your assertion.

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  18. Boss Mongo Member
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    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    See above or listen to Jonah’s The Remnant at about minute 55:00.

    Which episode?

      I’ll give you Erickson, ’cause I’m too tired to look it up (since you’re not providing a citation, I’ll take you at your word).  I don’t know if the podcast is about Erickson, or Jonah’s talking about himself.

    So you’ve got one, maybe two (without citations, but I’ll go with it).

    I heard “a lot.”  Is two a lot?

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    A lot of them have been doxxed or attacked at home or on the street by zealot Trumpkins.

     

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  19. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    See above or listen to Jonah’s The Remnant at about minute 55:00.

    Which episode?

    I’ll give you Erickson, ’cause I’m too tired to look it up (since you’re not providing a citation, I’ll take you at your word). I don’t know if the podcast is about Erickson, or Jonah’s talking about himself.

    So you’ve got one, maybe two (without citations, but I’ll go with it).

    I heard “a lot.” Is two a lot?

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    A lot of them have been doxxed or attacked at home or on the street by zealot Trumpkins.

     

    Under the bridges, it’s an epidemic!

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  20. Henry Racette Member
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    Anecdotes are slippery things: in a nation of more or less 320 million, you can find examples of almost literally anything. You can probably find several examples of almost literally anything.

    And the press will inevitably find the most salacious ones.

    Back before the election, my kid brother and I decided to explore, informally, just how fierce was the anti-Trump sentiment, choosing a blue-state Starbucks as our testing ground. I wrote about it here.

    I continue to believe, based on my own experience and a perception of my fellow Americans gained over a half century (plus) of living among them, that: there aren’t many really crazy people out there; that they tend to come from the left more than the right; and that most Americans, left and right, are still pretty easy to get along with.

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  21. Barfly Member
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    The best thing about the Trump presidency, besides the considerable amount of winning and that vile harpy will never be president, is the sorting job it performs on “conservatives.” Clarity has never been easier to come by.

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  22. Mike "Lash" LaRoche Inactive
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    This thread reads like an orgy of the anti-anti-Trumps.

    Wait, there’s an orgy??

    Any freaking hot Latina assassins involved? Be the death of you.

    I’m bringing the cheerleaders!

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  23. Mike "Lash" LaRoche Inactive
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    By the way, excellent post @bossmongo! As always.

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  24. Boss Mongo Member
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):
    This thread reads like an orgy of the anti-anti-Trumps.

    Wait, there’s an orgy??

    Any freaking hot Latina assassins involved? Be the death of you.

     

    Oh my stars and garters, I almost forgot about blatant self promotion.  If you don’t understand Columbo’s most excellent reference to freakin’ hot latina assassins, please go here.

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  25. Arahant Member
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    This incident reminded me of the whole Trayvon Martin incident.

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  26. Mike "Lash" LaRoche Inactive
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    This incident reminded me of the whole Trayvon Martin incident.

    Yep, fake news from beginning to end.  And I think this may be the beginning of the end for National Review and much of the establishment conservative pundit class.

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  27. Franco Member
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    Just read this again and I didn’t appreciate it as much as I should have because I was nodding my head too vigorously. Really great!

    And it’s true that we should revisit things to have a perspective – unlike what these dolts are doing. And then there’s always history. As though political narrative-crafting didn’t exist before and doesn’t exist now.

    But taking first impressions from the MSM perspective is politically moronic. This is a test-fail for anyone presenting themselves as a thought-leader on the right. And then to scold these young misguided people. 16 year olds can be misguided. They can want tattoos piercings change their gender, admit to mental deficiencies in exchange for performance enhancing- but psychologically dangerous drugs.

    The 16 year olds who are in gangs.

    So maybe these poor kids are victims of propaganda – unlike perhaps

    So shouldn’t  these teenagers be granted the same allowance?They are being improperly taught by their Trump supporting parents and Catholic schools.

    These writers don’t understand they are broadcasting their contempt. 

    Maybe it’s Stockholm Syndrome. 

    This incessant race-focus is staggering.

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  28. Ed G. Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):

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    Virtuous Heathen (View Comment):

    It is unfortunate the degree to which Conservative pundits contributed to amplify the story. But most, if not all, have thoroughly and repeatedly apologized for their roles.

    The urge to police one’s own side is not a bad one. When I saw the initial story I admit I found myself empathizing with the older vet rather than the teen boys. I don’t wield much influence but if I had, I can’t promise I wouldn’t have commented in favor of what is now obviously the wrong side.

    You, and many others who have been cautioning against quick judgements and irresponsible use of social media influence, are absolutely right.

    But there needs to be room for forgiveness also. Those who have retracted wrong statements or corrected false articles are not our enemies. A mistake does not make one disloyal.

    Very true about a mistake. However, this isn’t the first one and there have been no “woke” moments yet. Two + years later.

    And these same folks won’t forgive “us” who placed this heathen into the WH. They will “show” us. No forgiveness.

    They see a red hat and they become the raging bulls, seeing nothing but deplorables to gore.

    The “conservative” punditry were so focused on Orange Man Bad that they targeted the innocent for destruction. This wasn’t collateral damage, they intended to destroy these young men. Because Orange Man Bad.

    Right – even if the original still shot, headlines, and captions had been true that still isn’t reason to ruin anyone’s life. Competing demonstrators is not and should not be a story; taking one side or the other shouldn’t be an infraction; an infraction short of physical or violent activity shouldn’t ruin a life. Especially from a conservative perspective.

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  29. Joe Boyle Member
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    Damn frustrating when those who should be on your side, are not. Tragic when a deleted Bill Kristol tweet does nothing to make amends for the harm caused. The destruction done here cannot be  undone. An early lesson in life isn’t fair.

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  30. GrannyDude Member
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    I agree with you, Boss. Especially about the kid’s smile—I had the same impression myself. 

    And I was just talking with my daughter today about how this lunatic thing—a bunch of grownups (scare quotes?!) dumping homicidal fury  on what were, even in the worst possible premature reading of the situation, children— makes lynchings and Kristallnacht, a whole lot less mysterious.   

    Seriously: I think if all these pathetically unhinge-able people were in a room and poor Nick Sandmann walked in, the kid would get literally (not figuratively) curb-stomped. Over nothing.

    It’s a very ugly, unnerving and disheartening thing. 

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