PETA Strikes Again

 

I recently read an interesting but outrageous article in the Wall Street Journal regarding the People for Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA).

It appears that PETA has gotten their claws into retailers such as Duluth Trading Company and Lucky Brands and their marketing of items made of wool. PETA recently erected billboards in Boston and New York’s Times Square that display a nude picture of actress Alicia Silverstone with the phrase “Leave Wool Behind.” PETA and the Humane Society of the US is alleging that shearing sheep is inhumane and harmful to the animals. Most veterinary practitioners recommend an annual shearing. Weighed down by too much wool a sheep can suffer heat stress, inability to feed babies, lack of vision and infestation.

Both companies have backed off their “compliance” with PETA demands upon learning the truth of the matter, but how many lemmings have the image of bloody sheep in their head? This movement can only hurt ranchers who have a vested interest in maintaining healthy, happy sheep and providing clean wool as they have for centuries.

These animals rights groups do much more harm than good. Yes, I’m lumping them all together because of their shotgun approach to animal welfare. My local Humane Society does an exemplary job but the Mothership, like all these groups, seem to exist for the benefit of their executives.

How many contributed dollars went into the large billboard in Times Square?

I wonder where they stand on the extermination of rats in NYC?

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  1. TBA Coolidge
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    She (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Are there any sports teams with sheep as a mascot? Just wonderin’ here. No, rams don’t count.

    Oh, come on. I’ve thought for years that it would be so easy to dream up a fantasy football Sheep All Star team–Starting with Danny Merino, the quarterback, and moving onto Border Leicester Hayes, and also including Tony Dorset. I’m sure there are more. Don’t get me started. Or, hand me a beer and I’ll keep going.

    Got it. And please don’t keep going.:)

    OK. But can I have the beer, anyway? I promise to shut up. Just gimme the beer.

    How long will you hush per ounce, and how much beer are you willing to drink?  ;) 

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  2. Metalheaddoc Member
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    She (View Comment):

    Here’s a story on Shrek, the Merino sheep who escaped shearing for six years in the Australian outback. I can only imagine. I’ve had my own dealings with wool maggots, blowflies, and various and sundry other treasures of hot weather and farm life, and none of my sheep have ever gone for more than a year without being shorn. Poor guy. He was lucky to be rounded up.

    Merino sheep are incredibly difficult to shear. We raised them ourselves for a number of years, and at one point we had about 100 of them (a hat tip to Washington County PA, which at one time in the history of the United States, raised more sheep than any other county in the country, most of them Merinos). They are like the dog breed Shar-Pei, in that they are wearing a skin suit that’s about 12 sizes to big for them, and they are wrinkly beyond belief (you can see the wrinkles in the final picture in the linked article. Prior to that, they were probably wise to put a “jacket” on him). Shearing Merinos is a constant battle between smoothing out the wrinkles, and trying not to cut the wrong way (that being, with the wrinkles rather than across them) so as to nick the sheep in the course of the shearing strokes. In addition, their wool is super-fine and greasy. It’s almost impossible any more, in the United States (with the possible exception of parts of Texas) to find a shearer who’s willing to take on Merinos. I sheared all our Merino sheep myself, and I’ve demonstrated it at sheep and wool festivals in the area, although I’d rather participate in the weaving and spinning contests when it comes down to it. And I must stipulate that wool clippers are, like safety razors for humans, much safer than they used to be.

    Still, it’s a bit of a challenge.

    Dumb question from an ignorant city boy. Can’t you shear them with some giant sized Wahl razor with a blade guard like the barbers use? Do you have to shear it down the skin? 

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  3. TBA Coolidge
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    Metalheaddoc (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    Here’s a story on Shrek, the Merino sheep who escaped shearing for six years in the Australian outback. I can only imagine. I’ve had my own dealings with wool maggots, blowflies, and various and sundry other treasures of hot weather and farm life, and none of my sheep have ever gone for more than a year without being shorn. Poor guy. He was lucky to be rounded up.

    Merino sheep are incredibly difficult to shear. We raised them ourselves for a number of years, and at one point we had about 100 of them (a hat tip to Washington County PA, which at one time in the history of the United States, raised more sheep than any other county in the country, most of them Merinos). They are like the dog breed Shar-Pei, in that they are wearing a skin suit that’s about 12 sizes to big for them, and they are wrinkly beyond belief (you can see the wrinkles in the final picture in the linked article. Prior to that, they were probably wise to put a “jacket” on him). Shearing Merinos is a constant battle between smoothing out the wrinkles, and trying not to cut the wrong way (that being, with the wrinkles rather than across them) so as to nick the sheep in the course of the shearing strokes. In addition, their wool is super-fine and greasy. It’s almost impossible any more, in the United States (with the possible exception of parts of Texas) to find a shearer who’s willing to take on Merinos. I sheared all our Merino sheep myself, and I’ve demonstrated it at sheep and wool festivals in the area, although I’d rather participate in the weaving and spinning contests when it comes down to it. And I must stipulate that wool clippers are, like safety razors for humans, much safer than they used to be.

    Still, it’s a bit of a challenge.

    Dumb question from an ignorant city boy. Can’t you shear them with some giant sized Wahl razor with a blade guard like the barbers use? Do you have to shear it down the skin?

    Or an industrial Epilady? 

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  4. She Member
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    Metalheaddoc (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    Here’s a story on Shrek, the Merino sheep who escaped shearing for six years in the Australian outback. I can only imagine. I’ve had my own dealings with wool maggots, blowflies, and various and sundry other treasures of hot weather and farm life, and none of my sheep have ever gone for more than a year without being shorn. Poor guy. He was lucky to be rounded up.

    Merino sheep are incredibly difficult to shear. We raised them ourselves for a number of years, and at one point we had about 100 of them (a hat tip to Washington County PA, which at one time in the history of the United States, raised more sheep than any other county in the country, most of them Merinos). They are like the dog breed Shar-Pei, in that they are wearing a skin suit that’s about 12 sizes to big for them, and they are wrinkly beyond belief (you can see the wrinkles in the final picture in the linked article. Prior to that, they were probably wise to put a “jacket” on him). Shearing Merinos is a constant battle between smoothing out the wrinkles, and trying not to cut the wrong way (that being, with the wrinkles rather than across them) so as to nick the sheep in the course of the shearing strokes. In addition, their wool is super-fine and greasy. It’s almost impossible any more, in the United States (with the possible exception of parts of Texas) to find a shearer who’s willing to take on Merinos. I sheared all our Merino sheep myself, and I’ve demonstrated it at sheep and wool festivals in the area, although I’d rather participate in the weaving and spinning contests when it comes down to it. And I must stipulate that wool clippers are, like safety razors for humans, much safer than they used to be.

    Still, it’s a bit of a challenge.

    Dumb question from an ignorant city boy. Can’t you shear them with some giant sized Wahl razor with a blade guard like the barbers use? Do you have to shear it down the skin?

    Not a dumb question at all.  Had to look up “Wahl razor,”  and I think the sheep clipper actually is a “giant sized Wahl razor” sort of thing.

    Here’s something very similar to what I use:  https://www.osterpro.com/products/clippers/oster-shearmaster-shearing-machine—single-speed/078153-003-000.html

    Mine is actually a “variable speed” model, because adjusting the speed makes it easier to cope with the different grades and fineness of the wool, and also helps if you are shearing angora (mohair) goats, which we’ve also had in the past but don’t have at the moment.

    The cutting mechanism is of two parts–the “comb” which has a variable number of teeth, and which “combs” (duh) through the wool or hair.  More, or fewer teeth depending on the fineness of the wool (sheep) or the hair (goats), and the “blade” which is what actually does the cutting.

     

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  5. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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  6. She Member
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    Here’s a sheep-shearing video by a guy who’s obviously not a pro (sort of like me) who’s careful about what he does, and who, with his wife, is obviously kind to his sheep.  Shearing them is a bit of a struggle, if you don’t do it for a living, because you don’t really do it often enough to get comfortable with the physical aspects.  Much of it is a balancing act, when you’ve got a 250lb sheep you’re trying to get situated and who doesn’t want to be there (the sheep are not the least bit grateful for your efforts to keep them cool, clean, and pest-free, you can be sure of that).  Professionals can shear a sheep in about three minutes.  It takes me about 10-12.  There are not very many women sheep shearers, I do know that.

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  7. Arahant Member
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    She (View Comment):
    Had to look up “Wahl razor,” and I think the sheep clipper actually is a “giant sized Wahl razor” sort of thing.

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  8. Flicker Coolidge
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    I’m sure this has already been said, but I thought wool was harvested, renewable, energy saving, responsible, clean and green.  When did all this change?

    I guess I’ll have to go to cotton, if I can still find it.

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  9. Qoumidan Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    I’m sure this has already been said, but I thought wool was harvested, renewable, energy saving, responsible, clean and green. When did all this change?

    I guess I’ll have to go to cotton, if I can still find it.

    It’s not vegan, tho, because it ”exploits” an animal.

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  10. GrannyDude Member
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    Qoumidan (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I’m sure this has already been said, but I thought wool was harvested, renewable, energy saving, responsible, clean and green. When did all this change?

    I guess I’ll have to go to cotton, if I can still find it.

    It’s not vegan, tho, because it ”exploits” an animal.

    Can we exploit bees? How about earthworms? 

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  11. Flicker Coolidge
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    Qoumidan (View Comment):
    It’s not vegan, tho, because it ”exploits” an animal.

    Exploits?  I run a small chain of haberdasheries and barber shops, the latter’s clientele is almost exclusively by sheep and goats.  And they tip well.

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  12. Flicker Coolidge
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):
    Can we exploit bees?

    My bumper sticker reads: Honey Is Theft.  (But I love it so!)

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  13. RightAngles Member
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    Qoumidan (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I’m sure this has already been said, but I thought wool was harvested, renewable, energy saving, responsible, clean and green. When did all this change?

    I guess I’ll have to go to cotton, if I can still find it.

    It’s not vegan, tho, because it ”exploits” an animal.

    Can we exploit bees? How about earthworms?

    You monster!

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  14. TBA Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    I’m sure this has already been said, but I thought wool was harvested, renewable, energy saving, responsible, clean and green. When did all this change?

    I guess I’ll have to go to cotton, if I can still find it.

    Cotton is racist. 

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  15. Flicker Coolidge
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    TBA (View Comment):
    Cotton is racist. 

    I know.  That’s why I didn’t vote for him.

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  16. Qoumidan Coolidge
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    Qoumidan (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I’m sure this has already been said, but I thought wool was harvested, renewable, energy saving, responsible, clean and green. When did all this change?

    I guess I’ll have to go to cotton, if I can still find it.

    It’s not vegan, tho, because it ”exploits” an animal.

    Can we exploit bees? How about earthworms?

    Hmm, no on bees, but I haven’t heard anything about earthworms.  I’ll bet they haven’t really thought about those yet.

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  17. Sheila Johnson Member
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    I had three mohair goats as pets, once.  One spring, the shearing got away from me, and I didn’t hire someone to do it.  (I couldn’t do it myself-city girl). They looked like Rastafarians by winter.  Then they started falling down.  I had to check them several times a day, and right them, because they would often end up on their backs.  Their coats were so long, and wet, and heavy, that they couldn’t get up.  I couldn’t have them sheared, because they would freeze.  It was a terrible winter.

    A mountain lion came along and killed them all one night, for sheer entertainment, four years later.  I loved those sheep.  Wiley little devils, and fast as anything.  RIP; Breakfast (white), Lunch (brown, white, and black), and Dinner (solid black).

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  18. RightAngles Member
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    Qoumidan (View Comment):

    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    Qoumidan (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I’m sure this has already been said, but I thought wool was harvested, renewable, energy saving, responsible, clean and green. When did all this change?

    I guess I’ll have to go to cotton, if I can still find it.

    It’s not vegan, tho, because it ”exploits” an animal.

    Can we exploit bees? How about earthworms?

    Hmm, no on bees, but I haven’t heard anything about earthworms. I’ll bet they haven’t really thought about those yet.

    Don’t give them ideas!

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  19. Flicker Coolidge
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    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Hmm, no on bees, but I haven’t heard anything about earthworms. I’ll bet they haven’t really thought about those yet.

    Don’t give them ideas!

    The script across the top of the rear window of my car says:

    Fishing Kills Worms — And Fish — Say NO to Sole.

    Righteous, yeh?

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  20. Flicker Coolidge
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    She (View Comment):
    One of my rams (Cricket):

    So is it true that a poorly shorn or a torn or parted shearing is worth a lot less than a perfectly shorn one?

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  21. Flicker Coolidge
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    She (View Comment):
    OK. But can I have the beer, anyway? I promise to shut up. Just gimme the beer.

    Is that gimme a beer or I’ll keep explaining?

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  22. TBA Coolidge
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    Qoumidan (View Comment):

    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    Qoumidan (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I’m sure this has already been said, but I thought wool was harvested, renewable, energy saving, responsible, clean and green. When did all this change?

    I guess I’ll have to go to cotton, if I can still find it.

    It’s not vegan, tho, because it ”exploits” an animal.

    Can we exploit bees? How about earthworms?

    Hmm, no on bees, but I haven’t heard anything about earthworms. I’ll bet they haven’t really thought about those yet.

    Eventually, the worms exploit you. 

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  23. TBA Coolidge
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    Sheila Johnson (View Comment):

    I had three mohair goats as pets, once. One spring, the shearing got away from me, and I didn’t hire someone to do it. (I couldn’t do it myself-city girl). They looked like Rastafarians by winter. Then they started falling down. I had to check them several times a day, and right them, because they would often end up on their backs. Their coats were so long, and wet, and heavy, that they couldn’t get up. I couldn’t have them sheared, because they would freeze. It was a terrible winter.

    A mountain lion came along and killed them all one night, for sheer entertainment, four years later. I loved those sheep. Wiley little devils, and fast as anything. RIP; Breakfast (white), Lunch (brown, white, and black), and Dinner (solid black).

    OMG, you had me going! 

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  24. Flicker Coolidge
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    Huh.  You mean sort of like facebook.  Yeah.

    How many times have I wandered into a small country store ostensibly for a coke, and wandered directly to the cold case with the worms and bought a tub.  And brought them home.  Not even fishing.

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  25. TBA Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    Quot

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Huh. You mean sort of like facebook. Yeah.

    How many times have I wandered into a small country store ostensibly for a coke, and wandered directly to the cold case with the worms and bought a tub. And brought them home. Not even fishing.

    “You’re safe now! So please, please tell me how to rescue the princess.” 

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  26. Flicker Coolidge
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    TBA (View Comment):
    “You’re safe now! So please, please tell me how to rescue the princess.” 

    I… I just don’t get the quote.

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  27. TBA Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):
    “You’re safe now! So please, please tell me how to rescue the princess.”

    I… I just don’t get the quote.

    It’s not a quote, Flick. This is real-time now…go! 

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  28. GrannyDude Member
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Qoumidan (View Comment):

    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    Qoumidan (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I’m sure this has already been said, but I thought wool was harvested, renewable, energy saving, responsible, clean and green. When did all this change?

    I guess I’ll have to go to cotton, if I can still find it.

    It’s not vegan, tho, because it ”exploits” an animal.

    Can we exploit bees? How about earthworms?

    Hmm, no on bees, but I haven’t heard anything about earthworms. I’ll bet they haven’t really thought about those yet.

    Eventually, the worms exploit you.

    In all seriousness, this is the part they don’t seem to get: that all life depends upon other life and, inevitably, on other death. If we don’t eat the sheep, something else will—mountain lions, feral dogs, vultures, worms, the roots of trees. 

    A relative once complained to me that human beings aren’t part of the natural order of things: “Nothing even eats us!” he complained. And I said no, baby. Not to worry. I’ve seen bodies that have been Out In Nature and believe me… we do get et. 

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  29. She Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):
    One of my rams (Cricket):

    So is it true that a poorly shorn or a torn or parted shearing is worth a lot less than a perfectly shorn one?

    Yes.  In a perfect world, you don’t want “second cuts” (in which you take more than one swipe at the same area, so instead of, say, wool that’s five inches long, you end up with four inches long from the first cut, and then the fifth inch, closest to the skin you get with the second cut.  Those short bits devalue the fleece, because they have to be removed before it can be processed further by a hand spinner (hand spinners will pay a lot for a “perfect fleece”).  Naturally, you don’t want bits of skin in the fleece either, ugh.  And when you’ve shorn the thing, if you’ve done it properly, and it’s come off the way it should, you “skirt” it, which means you remove the dirty bits of wool from around the tail area, and the bits of belly wool that usually have hay or grass in them, and anything else that doesn’t look fine or clean.  A poor job of skirting is also something that reduces the value.  The best fleeces for handspinners are those which have a very consistent fiber all over (fine, coarse, crimpy, straight, but consistent all over), are clean and well-skirted, and have almost no second cuts.  Other fleeces around here go to what’s known, phonetically, as the “wull pull” the local co-op, which isn’t quite so fussy.

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  30. Valiuth Member
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    Wool might be one of the most ethically derived fibers we have, as it doesn’t involve the killing or even harming of any organism.How much more ethical can you get than that? And why do activists place the lives of animals above that of plants? Plants are living organisms too? What because they don’t have a nervous system they don’t have rights? I call this phylogenetic bigotry! Plants are the only ethical organisms harming no one and producing everything. 

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