A Blue Jackass Is Not a Pale Horse

 

I’ve seen expressed recently among some Republicans a fear of Democratic victory in the upcoming midterm elections.  Indeed, I was chastised for my nonchalance about what is so clear a threat to the very existence of America.  And I was told “If the Democrats get in control again, I don’t think we’ll have a country anymore for much longer.”

I’m sorry, but that simply isn’t the case.  This existential terror about the future of the country if Democrats win the midterms is misplaced.

First, before I am accused of it (although I’m sure I will be anyway), I’m not a Democrat and the Democratic Party is not my first choice.  I would prefer that everyone vote for LP candidates where possible.  The Democrats, for me, are a far distant second.  However, in many places, the laws are written to preserve the duopoly and prevent third-party candidates from being on the ballot, so voting for the LP is not an option.

With regards to the existential threat, call me cynical, but I hear this every election.  And it cannot possibly be true that every election is “the most important election of our lifetimes.”  I realize it’s what politicians and partisans say, but it’s just nonsense.  If every election is a Flight 93 election, then none of them are.

The truth is that there’ll be another one in two years, and still another two years after that.  If things are so precarious that electing one team of hacks to Congress this year instead of the other will destroy the country, then things are already too far gone, and the best choice would be to pack up your belongings, pets, and loved ones, and move to Hudson Bay.

I just don’t share the sense of urgency because it just doesn’t match reality. In 2009, when the Democrats had control of both houses of Congress and the presidency, it didn’t destroy the country.  The fact of the matter is that when Democrats are in power, they can’t seem to find their ass with both hands.

The case of 2009-2010 is actually a good one.  When the Democrats had control of the presidency and both houses of Congress in 2009, did they enact a workers’ paradise?  Did we get single payer?  Did Barack Obama, the Kenyan socialist, remake America?

No. They couldn’t have passed single payer because even on the best of days.  At the apex of their power, the only thing  they could pass was a scheme cooked up by Republicans in the 1990s.  And that was when they controlled everything!

This is why the talk of socialism is overwrought. When the blue team was in charge, they didn’t institute single payer. Instead they passed a nation-wide version of RomneyCare, and it cost them their congressional majority in the process.

Now, I’ve seen it pointed out that it ain’t 2009 anymore.  That the Democratic Party has tilted left.  That there used to be Blue Dog Democrats way back then and they’re all extinct now.  That the Democratic Party in 2018 is dominated by socialists like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who is the new face of the party.

Sorry, but that’s a bunch of hogwash.  First, I was told in 2009, back when they were passing nation-wide RomneyCare, that Democratic moderates were an extinct breed.  That talking point is a nice way to scare people into voting, but it doesn’t match reality.  The number of Democrats who have a favorable view of socialism is up only about four points from where it was eight years ago.

I’ll concede that Democrats in Congress probably tilt further left than they did in 2009, but that’s because most of their moderates have been boiled away. There is about to be a massive influx of moderate members, elected from purple and red districts, who will be jealous and their new status and want to be reelected.

The case of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is highly specific.  She’s not the harbinger of some new embrace of socialism.  She won her primary because her opponent got lazy and took his seat for granted.  America has always generally resisted socialism, so it would need to be sold to the public.  Ocasio-Cortez ain’t the one to do it.  Every time she’s given an opportunity to explain any details, she promptly makes an ass of herself.  But she gets pointed to by Republicans to scare people go voting.

The fact of the matter is that a Democratic majority probably wouldn’t be able to pass much if anything.  They might be able to get bills through the House, but there’s a limit to the amount of damage they could do.  And when they overreach, and they will because they always do, they’ll be punished for it.

What a Democratic majority will do, the thing that I actually want them to do, is provide a check to the President.  That’s something they can do with just a House majority, and it desperately needs to be done, because it is something the Republican majority refuses to do.

But no, it certainly won’t be the end of the country.  Indeed, divided government tends to be a good thing.  The greater danger is when presidential actions go unchecked.

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  1. Chuckles Coolidge
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    Same song, second verse,

    could get better but its gonna get worse.

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  2. RufusRJones Member
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    James Of England (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    New Gruber videos discovered. God help us if the GOP doesn’t do something.

    John McCain made your life better, how? Not one person on this site can answer that question.

    Really? He was, off the top of my head, a critical supporter of the Surge, and for having the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act avoid a filibuster. Without McCain, Trump would have needed every single Senator for every single bill, and judge, which would probably have made McConnell’s job impossible; the incentive for Paul and the like to constantly make ridiculous demands would be overwhelming, before you even consider the separate pulls of Cruz, Collins, etc. every bill would be like Obamacare repeal.

    He was a critical reason that Fred’s claim that Obama didn’t achieve all that much in his first term has any validity. Thanks to McCain and every other GOP Senator holding the line, the radicalism was dramatically inhibited. I campaigned hard against McCain, and there are a lot of marks against his name. But if you think that there are no trade offs in evaluating him, you’re missing one of the most fundamental insights of conservatism; almost nothing is without trade offs.

    My point was, I’ve never heard anyone explain their support for McCain. That is literally the first time.

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  3. TBA Coolidge
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    RPD (View Comment):
    While I’m not particularly a fan of Trump, I’m sure what policy wise needs more checking than is already happening.

    TARIFFS for one [expletive] thing!

    Trade policy is one area where a president has enormous leeway. The idea is that if Congress were to negotiate a trade agreement, it would be a mess of 535 competing interests all wanting the widget makers in their individual constituencies to get special carve outs.

    That works unless the president is an economic illiterate imbecile who thinks “trade is bad” and will use any powers available, no matter how obviously specious the rationale to interfere with it.

    Rather than do anything about it, Congress stood by, letting our idiot President do his best to drive our system of international trade, which has created the greatest prosperity in human history, off a damn cliff.

     

    Sounds like you have a problem with Congress. 

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  4. James Of England Inactive
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    RPD (View Comment):
    While I’m not particularly a fan of Trump, I’m sure what policy wise needs more checking than is already happening.

    TARIFFS for one [expletive] thing!

    Trade policy is one area where a president has enormous leeway. The idea is that if Congress were to negotiate a trade agreement, it would be a mess of 535 competing interests all wanting the widget makers in their individual constituencies to get special carve outs.

    That works unless the president is an economic illiterate imbecile who thinks “trade is bad” and will use any powers available, no matter how obviously specious the rationale to interfere with it.

    Rather than do anything about it, Congress stood by, letting our idiot President do his best to drive our system of international trade, which has created the greatest prosperity in human history, off a damn cliff.

     

    Sounds like you have a problem with Congress.

    You’re right; in addition to the other confusions embedded in this comment, Fred appears to believe either that there’s a veto proof majority for trade in Congress or that there are Congressional powers other than legislation.

    There *is* Congressional soft power in talking to Trump, but read any of the chaos in the WH books and it will be clear that McConnell and Ryan do that all the time. But Republicans will lose some ability to restrain Trump if they lose the majority. 

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  5. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    TARIFFS for one [expletive] thing!

    Trade policy is one area where a president has enormous leeway. The idea is that if Congress were to negotiate a trade agreement, it would be a mess of 535 competing interests all wanting the widget makers in their individual constituencies to get special carve outs.

    That works unless the president is an economic illiterate imbecile who thinks “trade is bad” and will use any powers available, no matter how obviously specious the rationale to interfere with it.

    Rather than do anything about it, Congress stood by, letting our idiot President do his best to drive our system of international trade, which has created the greatest prosperity in human history, off a damn cliff.

     

    Sen. Schumer (on USMCA):  

    As someone who voted against NAFTA and opposed it for many years, I knew it needed fixing. The president deserves praise for taking large steps to improve it,” Schumer said. “However, any final agreement must be judged on how it benefits and protects middle-class families and the working people in our country.

     

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  6. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):
    yeah it’s a pretty odd “libertarian” who choses the Democratic Party, ie the ones all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government as his fallback.

    It would only seem odd if you think the Republican Party weren’t also all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government.

    Cause it’s Republicans calling for socialism and more and more regulation of everything.

    Got it.

    Back to Fredo Land….

    Well, remember, the Democrats, in Fredo Land at least, are less of a problem than the Republicans.

     

    It’s almost like Fredo is not on our side.

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  7. Instugator Thatcher
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    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):
    It’s almost like Fredo is not on our side.

    What is truly funny is when his preferred party endorses President Trump on a subject that Fred really thinks President Trump needs to be checked on.

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Sen. Schumer (on USMCA):

    As someone who voted against NAFTA and opposed it for many years, I knew it needed fixing. The president deserves praise for taking large steps to improve it,” Schumer said. “However, any final agreement must be judged on how it benefits and protects middle-class families and the working people in our country.

    I’ll be laughing about this all day.

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  8. Kozak Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):
    yeah it’s a pretty odd “libertarian” who choses the Democratic Party, ie the ones all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government as his fallback.

    It would only seem odd if you think the Republican Party weren’t also all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government.

    LOL.

    The White House’s Office of Management and Budget detailed Thursday how it would jettison hundreds of existing or planned regulations as part of its larger push to ease federal restrictions on the private sector, upending federal policies on labor, the environment and public health.

     

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  9. Kozak Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):
    yeah it’s a pretty odd “libertarian” who choses the Democratic Party, ie the ones all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government as his fallback.

    It would only seem odd if you think the Republican Party weren’t also all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government.

    LOL.

    The GOP Tax Bill Repeals Obamacare’s Individual Mandate.

     

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  10. Kozak Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):
    yeah it’s a pretty odd “libertarian” who choses the Democratic Party, ie the ones all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government as his fallback.

    It would only seem odd if you think the Republican Party weren’t also all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government.

    LOL.

    The Quiet GOP Campaign Against Government Regulation

     

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  11. Kozak Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):
    yeah it’s a pretty odd “libertarian” who choses the Democratic Party, ie the ones all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government as his fallback.

    It would only seem odd if you think the Republican Party weren’t also all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government.

    LOL.

    A novel use of the Congressional Review Act is a powerful tool in the conservative war on the administrative state.

     

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  12. Kozak Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):
    yeah it’s a pretty odd “libertarian” who choses the Democratic Party, ie the ones all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government as his fallback.

    It would only seem odd if you think the Republican Party weren’t also all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government.

    LOL.

    Generally speaking, the Republican Party is considered business-friendly, as it favors limited government regulation of the economy. This includes restrictions that might seek to dimunize the pursuit of profits in favor of environmental concerns, labor union interests, healthcare benefits and retirement payouts. Given this more pro-business bias, Republicans tend to receive support from business owners and investment capitalists, as opposed to the labor component that constitutes workers and their interests.

    Democrats are said to rely more heavily on government intervention to influence the economy’s direction and keep the profit motive of businesses more at bay – subscribing to a belief that businesses are more focused on earning a return for shareholders and willing to cut corners in terms of protecting the overall social good. Higher regulation comes with increased costs, which Democrats believe in supporting through higher taxation. As a result, the party’s approach is often described as “tax and spend.”

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  13. Instugator Thatcher
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):
    yeah it’s a pretty odd “libertarian” who choses the Democratic Party, ie the ones all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government as his fallback.

    It would only seem odd if you think the Republican Party weren’t also all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government.

    LOL.

    The White House’s Office of Management and Budget detailed Thursday how it would jettison hundreds of existing or planned regulations as part of its larger push to ease federal restrictions on the private sector, upending federal policies on labor, the environment and public health.

     

    Looks like I got my humor for Sunday covered as well.

    I am not yet tired of all the winning.

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  14. RufusRJones Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Generally speaking, the Republican Party is considered business-friendly, as it favors limited government regulation of the economy. This includes restrictions that might seek to dimunize the pursuit of profits in favor of environmental concerns, labor union interests, healthcare benefits and retirement payouts. Given this more pro-business bias, Republicans tend to receive support from business owners and investment capitalists, as opposed to the labor component that constitutes workers and their interests.

    Democrats are said to rely more heavily on government intervention to influence the economy’s direction and keep the profit motive of businesses more at bay – subscribing to a belief that businesses are more focused on earning a return for shareholders and willing to cut corners in terms of protecting the overall social good. Higher regulation comes with increased costs, which Democrats believe in supporting through higher taxation. As a result, the party’s approach is often described as “tax and spend.”

    This is great. Profits aren’t the problem, it’s the value you get. Is government a good value? Obviously not. The the dirty secret is the Democrat party only survives because the the Fed is creating too much inflation and asset bubbles all the time and the government has already mucked up everything. Then they promised to “fix” what they already screwed up. Statist Keynesianism. Total racket. Trump is conservative enough, and he knows how to fight the media.

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  15. Miffed White Male Member
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    Fred Cole: In 2009, when the Democrats had control of both houses of Congress and the presidency, it didn’t destroy the country. 

    Too soon to tell.

     

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  16. Miffed White Male Member
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    Fred Cole: I’ll concede that Democrats in Congress probably tilt further left than they did in 2009, but that’s because most of their moderates have been boiled away. There is about to be a massive influx of moderate members, elected from purple and red districts, who will be jealous and their new status and want to be reelected.

    But they’ll still vote for Nancy Pelosi as SOTH.  And it’ll be the members with seniority who will be chairing the committees.

     

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  17. TBA Coolidge
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    @RobtGilsdorf

    Fred Cole: In 2009, when the Democrats had control of both houses of Congress and the presidency, it didn’t destroy the country. 

    Kind of a low bar, there Cole. Anything that failed to leave us standing among smoking ruins ‘didn’t destroy the country’. Indeed, no one thing will ever destroy a country. That doesn’t mean individual acts aren’t destructive. 

     

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  18. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):
    yeah it’s a pretty odd “libertarian” who choses the Democratic Party, ie the ones all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government as his fallback.

    It would only seem odd if you think the Republican Party weren’t also all for increasing the power and intrusiveness of the government.

    LOL.

    A novel use of the Congressional Review Act is a powerful tool in the conservative war on the administrative state.

     

    All of these were good points. 

     

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