Delay and Humiliate

 

I’ve had enough.

My husband and I have been on vacation for 10 days, so I’ve not been on Ricochet very much, but it’s hard to ignore the hysteria of the mainstream media and the hand-wringing of the right-leaning media. After reading parts of the letter from Christine Blasey Ford’s attorney Saturday at the last 2:30 pm deadline, I think the path forward for Republicans is obvious.

The comment that sent me over the edge was the disrespectful comment of Ford’s attorney to Senator Chuck Grassley saying that the committee’s responses—

. . . are fundamentally inconsistent with the committee’s promise of a fair, impartial investigation into her allegations.

We are disappointed with the leaks and the bullying that have tainted the process. We are hopeful that we can reach agreement on details.

If it wasn’t clear before this response from the attorney, the goal of humiliating Republicans and delaying the confirmation vote is crystal clear. It’s time for the Republicans to take swift and deliberate action. As I see the situation, they have two choices:

Option #1–They should state there will be no further negotiations. In fact, I’d be pleased to see them say that they should never have begun a negotiation process, given the questionable conditions under which these allegations were made. Ms. Ford is invited to come on Wednesday, which she’d already agreed to do. Her lawyer can interview her and Judge Kavanaugh, and Judge Kavanaugh’s lawyer (I believe she’s a woman) can interview both of them as well. Or the Senate Judiciary Committee can interview her in a private session; those are her choices. Then a vote of the committee will be taken. If this is not acceptable and she doesn’t agree to these conditions, she can renege on her agreement to come. A vote will be taken that day or the next.

Option #2–The Republicans can agree to continue on this path which is designed to last beyond the November elections. No matter how accommodating the Republicans are, the Democrats will condemn them. This option has only a disastrous outcome for Republicans, and the Democrats will take the majority in the mid-terms. Kavanaugh will be dumped and a candidate the Democrats favor for the Supreme Court will be nominated and voted in.

With either #1 or #2, the outcomes may work against the Republicans in the elections. My hope is that the Committee proceeds with Option #1 and that we at least get Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court. I’m hopeful there are enough people (including women) who are appalled at the actions of Ms. Ford and the Democrats, and will see through their unconscionable plan and vote for a Republican Senate majority.  And I recognize that with Kavanaugh on the bench, the Democrats will continue to investigate him if they win the election. He should be consulted to determine if he’s willing to go through that process.

If nothing else, we will see if the Republicans have a backbone.

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  1. Weeping Inactive
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    Roberto (View Comment):

    This circus just gets better and better.

    Keyser has no reason to remember the event because nothing happened to her? Really?

    In order to believe Ford’s claims, we have to believe that Keyser has no reason to remember going to a small party that consisted of just five people – two girls (her and Ford) and three guys. (I thought there were supposedly four guys, but oh well) We also have to believe that she has no reason to recall that party even though Ford just disappeared from it,  leaving her alone with the three guys. Really? Two of those guys were supposedly so drunk one of them couldn’t even manage to get her clothes off.

    So Keyser has no reason to remember a party where she unexpectedly wound up being the only girl with three guys (at least two of whom were very drunk) because the other girl just disappeared into thin air? (insert eyerolling emoji here) 

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  2. Django Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    Ever notice that the Democrats pretty much fall in line when told to

    I’m pretty sure they have a better system of taking care of politicians that get sacrificed (voted out of office) to take ground, that, face it, they keep. That’s always part of what is going on. Clearly, that’s the way the ACA worked.

    Either that or dedication to the cause. Every one who voted for it in the House knew the likely cost and yet they did it anyway.

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  3. Chris Campion Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    Flake, Collins, and/or Murkowski

    Ever notice that the Democrats pretty much fall in line when told to and the Republicans won’t. It could be that Republicans are more independent by nature or, more likely, the Democrat leadership threatens consequences. It’s too late to drop the hammer on Flake, but Collins and Murkowski should be told that the most important committee they’ll serve on in the future is the one overseeing National Mackerel Commemorative Week if they don’t support Kavanaugh.

    I’d sign up for that.  Sounds like a light lift.

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  4. RufusRJones Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    Ever notice that the Democrats pretty much fall in line when told to

    I’m pretty sure they have a better system of taking care of politicians that get sacrificed (voted out of office) to take ground, that, face it, they keep. That’s always part of what is going on. Clearly, that’s the way the ACA worked.

    Either that or dedication to the cause. Every one who voted for it in the House knew the likely cost and yet the did it anyway.

    They get them jobs or make work. It’s really bad in Minnesota, but I know they have a system nationally.

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  5. Weeping Inactive
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Question. If you were one of the people Ford named. What would be the smart play. Tell the truth that you knew something about the event or lie, say you did not remember it on the hopes you would be left alone?

    You’re assuming that claiming to not know anything would be the safer thing to do. With some on the Left today, I’m not sure that’s a safe assumption. I think your life has probably been made a living hell just by having your name brought up. So if you’re just looking to play it safe, perhaps the best thing to do would be to claim that you remember being at a party with Ford and Kavanaugh – whether you really remembered such a party or not – and then say you can’t remember any other details about it, just like Ford has done.

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  6. Django Member
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    This should surprise no one, but it gives us a chance to see if Grassley & Co. have the … uh, testicular fortitude to deal with them:

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  7. cdor Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Question. If you were one of the people Ford named. What would be the smart play. Tell the truth that you knew something about the event or lie, say you did not remember it on the hopes you would be left alone?

    The smart and only play by my book…tell the truth. You seem to indicate that is just an option. Maybe, but lying would be one darn stupid option to take.

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  8. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    danok1 (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    If Flake, Collins, and/or Murkowski derail Kavanaugh, there is nothing the Republicans can do. What a shame for Brett Kavanaugh.

    I have the impression that all three will vote for Kananaugh. If Grassley had not made any good faith effort to hear Ford, they’d be a problem. But since Grassley has bent over backwards to try and accommodate her, I think all the so-called “moderates” are on board.

    I know that Collins was sympathetic to Ford, but has become more and more irritated at her delaying tactics. Can’t speak to the other two though.

    That’s a very good point, @cdor. Grassley has made a good faith effort, and she’s responded with bad faith. I hope you’re right.

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  9. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Another issue here. What sane person moving forward would want to accept a nomination for something like the SCOTUS with the Progressives in full destroy and smear mode? They have made it crystal clear they they will stop at nothing to destroy peoples lives who dare to be conservative.

    I mentioned earlier, @kozak, that the Reps might want to give Kavanaugh an out, in case he has concerns about attacks following his being voted in. He’s the kind of man who’d be concerned about the impact on his family. Then again, I suspect they’ll want him to go forward; at least his wife might.

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  10. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    Susan Quinn: If nothing else, we will see if the Republicans have a backbone.

    Good one!

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  11. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Weeping (View Comment):

    Roberto (View Comment):

    This circus just gets better and better.

    Keyser has no reason to remember the event because nothing happened to her? Really?

    In order to believe Ford’s claims, we have to believe that Keyser has no reason to remember going to a small party that consisted of just five people – two girls (her and Ford) and three guys. (I thought there were supposedly four guys, but oh well) We also have to believe that she has no reason to recall that party even though Ford just disappeared from it, leaving her alone with the three guys. Really? Two of those guys were supposedly so drunk one of them couldn’t even manage to get her clothes off.

    So Keyser has no reason to remember a party where she unexpectedly wound up being the only girl with three guys (at least two of whom were very drunk) because the other girl just disappeared into thin air? (insert eyerolling emoji here)

    Excellent points, @weeping!

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  12. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    As Rush pointed out: When it’s a 17 year old banger, serious crimes with witnesses and actual evidence aren’t culpable because of neurological immaturity and therefore lack of mens rea.

    When it’s a 17 year old who grows up to be a Republican SCOTUS appointee and there are no witnesses, let alone evidence, GUILTY.

    Changing the subject, would any attorneys who know this stuff please weigh in on whether this is a valid point?

    https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1043697136049766401

    The full linked tweet contains relevant US Code sections.

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  13. RufusRJones Member
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    Buck Sexton

    Reason, evidence, and respect for institutions will be discarded this week-

    the Left is about to go full Alinsky

    If they have to lie in traffic, pull the fire alarm, any dirty trick- they might just do it

    Anything to stop Kavanaugh.

     

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  14. Kozak Member
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    Roberto (View Comment):

    This circus just gets better and better.

    Right Doctor Ford will never forget anything about that night except what year it was and where this horrific event happened.

    LOL.

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  15. Kozak Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    Ever notice that the Democrats pretty much fall in line when told to

    I’m pretty sure they have a better system of taking care of politicians that get sacrificed (voted out of office) to take ground, that, face it, they keep. That’s always part of what is going on. Clearly, that’s the way the ACA worked.

    Either that or dedication to the cause. Every one who voted for it in the House knew the likely cost and yet they did it anyway.

    The Bolsheviks have always had terrific party discipline.

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  16. Mim526 Inactive
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Question. If you were one of the people Ford named. What would be the smart play. Tell the truth that you knew something about the event or lie, say you did not remember it on the hopes you would be left alone?

    I thought about that, too.  Then I thought, ultimately, the smart play IMO is not to say something that will subject you to criminal penalty for lying, especially in a case that has a huge spotlight on it and which Democrats have vowed to investigate once they get the gavel (Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse).

    Which makes it interesting that her friend of several years did not say in her sworn affidavit via her attorney that she believed Christine Ford, which apparently she had commented at one time.

     

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  17. Dorrk Inactive
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    A side note: in this day and age, does the claim that someone has ‘received threats against his/her life’ add anything to their case? I assume, as a matter of Twitter, that everyone involved in even a semi-public controversy has received anonymous threats, and these threats are at least 99.99% trolling. This appeal to sympathy smacks more of desperation to me than anything else and is somewhat like Godwin’s law now: Anyone who cites anonymous social media threats to support their credibility, loses it.

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  18. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Chris Campion (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    Flake, Collins, and/or Murkowski

    Ever notice that the Democrats pretty much fall in line when told to and the Republicans won’t. It could be that Republicans are more independent by nature or, more likely, the Democrat leadership threatens consequences. It’s too late to drop the hammer on Flake, but Collins and Murkowski should be told that the most important committee they’ll serve on in the future is the one overseeing National Mackerel Commemorative Week if they don’t support Kavanaugh.

    I’d sign up for that. Sounds like a light lift.

    Exactly: Enforce. Party. Discipline. Like. Democrats.

    And Flake and Corker must be told by leadership that they, and any who employ them, will be forever disfavored by the Republican Senate caucus if they betray the party by breaking this fundamental promise, filling the Court with constitutionalists.

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  19. Django Member
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Chris Campion (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    Flake, Collins, and/or Murkowski

    Ever notice that the Democrats pretty much fall in line when told to and the Republicans won’t. It could be that Republicans are more independent by nature or, more likely, the Democrat leadership threatens consequences. It’s too late to drop the hammer on Flake, but Collins and Murkowski should be told that the most important committee they’ll serve on in the future is the one overseeing National Mackerel Commemorative Week if they don’t support Kavanaugh.

    I’d sign up for that. Sounds like a light lift.

    Exactly: Enforce. Party. Discipline. Like. Democrats.

    And Flake and Corker must be told by leadership that they, and any who employ them, will be forever disfavored by the Republican Senate caucus if they betray the party by breaking this fundamental promise, filling the Court with constitutionalists.

    That’s taking it one big step further, and I agree completely. 

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  20. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Weeping (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Question. If you were one of the people Ford named. What would be the smart play. Tell the truth that you knew something about the event or lie, say you did not remember it on the hopes you would be left alone?

    You’re assuming that claiming to not know anything would be the safer thing to do. With some on the Left today, I’m not sure that’s a safe assumption. I think your life has probably been made a living hell just by having your name brought up. So if you’re just looking to play it safe, perhaps the best thing to do would be to claim that you remember being at a party with Ford and Kavanaugh – whether you really remembered such a party or not – and then say you can’t remember any other details about it, just like Ford has done.

    That is my question.  All paths are fraught with peril.  Which one is safer for a third party?  I would be inclined to stay our of it as much as possible.  

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  21. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Just to remind ourselves what time it is, the Supremes have their internal admin meeting for the new term this Monday. They start hearing oral arguments, two per day, 1 October.

    Time’s up this week. Full Senate vote before 1 October, or important cases will go 4-4 and very bad things from lower courts will be the law. For which, Mitch and Chuck will be responsible. Check here, to see if you should personally care about a case. Make sure to click the case number, as the names reveal nothing.

     

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  22. Mim526 Inactive
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Roberto (View Comment):

    This circus just gets better and better.

    Right Doctor Ford will never forget anything about that night except what year it was and where this horrific event happened.

    LOL.

    If something did actually occur, I suspect Christine Ford was likely very drunk at the time of the incident she alleges meaning her memory is highly impaired, and I seriously doubt Brett Kavanaugh was involved. 

    Her (and her team’s) activism aside, there’s something off about bringing such a bombshell claim that has no charges filed into the public discourse (which is what writing to a state senator constitutes).  It tells me the woman knows she can’t prove her claim, but was willing to try stopping a Supreme Court appointment anyway.   

    Brett Kavanaugh didn’t become a threat to Christine Ford big enough for her to do something about until he was nominated to the Supreme Court.  And that right there is enough for me to call foul on Christine Ford. 

     

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  23. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Just to remind ourselves what time it is, the Supremes have their internal admin meeting for the new term this Monday. They start hearing oral arguments, two per day, 1 October.

    Time’s up this week. Full Senate vote before 1 October, or important cases will go 4-4 and very bad things from lower courts will be the law. For which, Mitch and Chuck will be responsible. Check here, to see if you should personally care about a case. Make sure to click the case number, as the names reveal nothing.

     

    I think you can write that off.  At the moment I am doubtful that he will be approved.  I just do not see the GOP senators holding the line on this.

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  24. RufusRJones Member
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Chris Campion (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    Flake, Collins, and/or Murkowski

    Ever notice that the Democrats pretty much fall in line when told to and the Republicans won’t. It could be that Republicans are more independent by nature or, more likely, the Democrat leadership threatens consequences. It’s too late to drop the hammer on Flake, but Collins and Murkowski should be told that the most important committee they’ll serve on in the future is the one overseeing National Mackerel Commemorative Week if they don’t support Kavanaugh.

    I’d sign up for that. Sounds like a light lift.

    Exactly: Enforce. Party. Discipline. Like. Democrats.

    And Flake and Corker must be told by leadership that they, and any who employ them, will be forever disfavored by the Republican Senate caucus if they betray the party by breaking this fundamental promise, filling the Court with constitutionalists.

    What is wrong with this analysis? Nothing. 

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  25. Weeping Inactive
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Question. If you were one of the people Ford named. What would be the smart play. Tell the truth that you knew something about the event or lie, say you did not remember it on the hopes you would be left alone?

    You’re assuming that claiming to not know anything would be the safer thing to do. With some on the Left today, I’m not sure that’s a safe assumption. I think your life has probably been made a living hell just by having your name brought up. So if you’re just looking to play it safe, perhaps the best thing to do would be to claim that you remember being at a party with Ford and Kavanaugh – whether you really remembered such a party or not – and then say you can’t remember any other details about it, just like Ford has done.

    That is my question. All paths are fraught with peril. Which one is safer for a third party? I would be inclined to stay our of it as much as possible.

    In my opinoin? Whichever option was the honest option in case this thing managed to blow up into a full-scale investigation.

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  26. Mim526 Inactive
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Just to remind ourselves what time it is, the Supremes have their internal admin meeting for the new term this Monday. They start hearing oral arguments, two per day, 1 October.

    Time’s up this week. Full Senate vote before 1 October, or important cases will go 4-4 and very bad things from lower courts will be the law. For which, Mitch and Chuck will be responsible. Check here, to see if you should personally care about a case. Make sure to click the case number, as the names reveal nothing.

    Doesn’t the Chief Justice have discretion over court calendar?  If there’s a newly confirmed justice in the wings, it’s possible Roberts may adjust the calendar.  I don’t know what all goes into the SCOTUS case calendar and how flexible it is.

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  27. Weeping Inactive
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Just to remind ourselves what time it is, the Supremes have their internal admin meeting for the new term this Monday. They start hearing oral arguments, two per day, 1 October.

    Time’s up this week. Full Senate vote before 1 October, or important cases will go 4-4 and very bad things from lower courts will be the law. For which, Mitch and Chuck will be responsible. Check here, to see if you should personally care about a case. Make sure to click the case number, as the names reveal nothing.

     

    I think you can write that off. At the moment I am doubtful that he will be approved. I just do not see the GOP senators holding the line on this.

    For Kavanaugh’s sake and the sake of every Supreme Court nominee to come, I hope you’re wrong about that.

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  28. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Mim526 (View Comment):

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Just to remind ourselves what time it is, the Supremes have their internal admin meeting for the new term this Monday. They start hearing oral arguments, two per day, 1 October.

    Time’s up this week. Full Senate vote before 1 October, or important cases will go 4-4 and very bad things from lower courts will be the law. For which, Mitch and Chuck will be responsible. Check here, to see if you should personally care about a case. Make sure to click the case number, as the names reveal nothing.

    Doesn’t Chief Justice has discretion over court calendar? If there’s a newly confirmed justice in the wings, it’s possible Roberts may adjust the calendar. I don’t know what all goes into the SCOTUS case calendar and how flexible it is.

    The Senate knew when the term starts, and even knows the cases, at least the ones that matter to their voters and big money funders. The Chief Justice, and the rest of the Court, is hardly likely to reward Senate behavior, by saving them from themselves. It is all on McConnell and Grassley—the blame, or the praise.

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  29. dnewlander Inactive
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    Django (View Comment):

    This should surprise no one, but it gives us a chance to see if Grassley & Co. have the … uh, testicular fortitude to deal with them:

    “Peaceably assemble” != “disrupt”. Lock them up.

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  30. dnewlander Inactive
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    dnewlander (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    This should surprise no one, but it gives us a chance to see if Grassley & Co. have the … uh, testicular fortitude to deal with them:

    “Peaceably assemble” != “disrupt”. Lock them up.

    Also, “bused”.

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