McCain’s Death Illustrates the Honesty of Media Coverage

 

Watching the media coverage of McCain’s presidential campaign against Barack Obama, I was surprised that he didn’t personally beat up black orphans on stage during campaign stops. Watching the media coverage of McCain’s funeral, I was surprised that he didn’t rise on the third day.

Perhaps we should bear this in mind when watching media coverage of anybody else. Including, ahem, our current president. Just a thought.

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  1. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    Simon Templar (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    The McCains and the pampered ruling class they represent are now just Resistance crybabies. They lost, and they just need to get over it.

    Probably wouldn’t want to watch that clip from your office cubicle.

    I watch it in its entirety a few times a week and laugh hysterically. Never at work though. 

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  2. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    This is just gas-lighting from Salon:

    Many impartial observers noticed that Trump supporters were inferring the president’s presence in the speeches all on their own. Again, none of the speakers at the funeral — not Obama or Bush or McCain — used Trump’s name. Yet, apparently Trump’s fans identified him. Some D.C. pundits asked on Twitter what this said about the president.

    Because you’re conceding POTUS’s unfitness if you assume that Meghan McCain was taking a shot at the President when she said the following:

    We gather here to mourn the passing of American greatness — the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly.

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  3. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    This is just gas-lighting from Salon:

    Many impartial observers noticed that Trump supporters were inferring the president’s presence in the speeches all on their own. Again, none of the speakers at the funeral — not Obama or Bush or McCain — used Trump’s name. Yet, apparently Trump’s fans identified him. Some D.C. pundits asked on Twitter what this said about the president.

    Because you’re conceding POTUS’s unfitness if you assume that Meghan McCain was taking a shot at the President when she said the following:

    We gather here to mourn the passing of American greatness — the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly.

    She must have been talking about Obama, then, right?

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  4. Doctor Robert Member
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    None of this is about Mr McCain

    This is just the MSM gleefully grabbing another opportunity to bash Mr Trump.

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  5. Doctor Robert Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I did not read your post or the comments. You are a day early. Please wait until the flags are back to full staff and post to tomorrow.

    Gary, as you are an attorney I present to you an excerpt from the US Flag code (4 US Code 7), “Position and manner of display” regarding half-staff display (emphasis added):

    “The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress.”

    Mr McCain was a member of Congress.  He has already had his half-staff days.

    All the rest of this smarmy cultural display, including your smart-aleck comment, is simple anti-Trumpism.

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    I don’t know but it seems to me the funerals of elected officials should in general and on principal be humble affairs. This is a citizen being buried, not royalty. The ostentatiousness of it all makes me uncomfortable.

    Well, and funerals should, ideally, be mostly about what a swell person the deceased was, not what a terrible person the president is. It’s just weird. They did it for Aretha’s death too—what are they thinking? That’s the funeral his great-grandchildren will find on YouTube. “Granny, was great-grampy murdered by this guy Trump or what?”

    This.  Both of these, actually.  What a remarkably ungracious display by Meghan McCain.  And, frankly, disrespectful to her father in taking the attention off a celebration of his life into speculation about what she meant by “We gather here to mourn the passing of American greatness — the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly.”

    The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree, I guess.

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  7. Chris Campion Coolidge
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    She (View Comment):

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    TGPlett (View Comment):

    I don’t know but it seems to me the funerals of elected officials should in general and on principal be humble affairs. This is a citizen being buried, not royalty. The ostentatiousness of it all makes me uncomfortable.

    Well, and funerals should, ideally, be mostly about what a swell person the deceased was, not what a terrible person the president is. It’s just weird. They did it for Aretha’s death too—what are they thinking? That’s the funeral his great-grandchildren will find on YouTube. “Granny, was great-grampy murdered by this guy Trump or what?”

    This. Both of these, actually. What a remarkably ungracious display by Meghan McCain. And, frankly, disrespectful to her father in taking the attention off a celebration of his life into speculation about what she meant by “We gather here to mourn the passing of American greatness — the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly.”

    The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree, I guess.

    That’s actually pretty cheap.  McCain’s record speaks for itself (the good, and the bad).  It doesn’t need political colorization from his daughter, other than it gains her political something-something.

    Classy.  Par for the course with her.  

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    She (View Comment):

    This. Both of these, actually. What a remarkably ungracious display by Meghan McCain. And, frankly, disrespectful to her father in taking the attention off a celebration of his life into speculation about what she meant by “We gather here to mourn the passing of American greatness — the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly.”

    The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree, I guess.

    Was it Meghan McCain, or was she carrying out instructions from McCain? I don’t watch The View, so I don’t know what she is like.

     

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    Hartmann von Aue (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    This is just gas-lighting from Salon:

    Many impartial observers noticed that Trump supporters were inferring the president’s presence in the speeches all on their own. Again, none of the speakers at the funeral — not Obama or Bush or McCain — used Trump’s name. Yet, apparently Trump’s fans identified him. Some D.C. pundits asked on Twitter what this said about the president.

    Because you’re conceding POTUS’s unfitness if you assume that Meghan McCain was taking a shot at the President when she said the following:

    We gather here to mourn the passing of American greatness — the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly.

    She must have been talking about Obama, then, right?

    It fits him perfectly.

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    Mrs. Ink (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    This. Both of these, actually. What a remarkably ungracious display by Meghan McCain. And, frankly, disrespectful to her father in taking the attention off a celebration of his life into speculation about what she meant by “We gather here to mourn the passing of American greatness — the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly.”

    The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree, I guess.

    Was it Meghan McCain, or was she carrying out instructions from McCain? I don’t watch The View, so I don’t know what she is like.

    From the clips I’ve seen posted, she seems to be more combative on The View than you’d expect from her comments on Saturday, as the show’s current “Flavor of the Month” conservative (where that seat changes on a regular basis, while the show’s liberal hosts have lifetime tenure if they want it). Still, when The View comes back on Tuesday, Meghan’s comments should result in a big bonding moment for her with Joy Behar and Whoopi……

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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

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    She (View Comment):

    This. Both of these, actually. What a remarkably ungracious display by Meghan McCain. And, frankly, disrespectful to her father in taking the attention off a celebration of his life into speculation about what she meant by “We gather here to mourn the passing of American greatness — the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly.”

    The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree, I guess.

    Was it Meghan McCain, or was she carrying out instructions from McCain? I don’t watch The View, so I don’t know what she is like.

    From the clips I’ve seen posted, she seems to be more combative on The View than you’d expect from her comments on Saturday, as the show’s current “Flavor of the Month” conservative (where that seat changes on a regular basis, while the show’s liberal hosts have lifetime tenure if they want it). Still, when The View comes back on Tuesday, Meghan’s comments should result in a big bonding moment for her with Joy Behar and Whoopi……

    I know it’s part of the pop culture, etc, and has some level of cultural impact, but who gives a crap about the parade of buffoons squawking on TV?  If someone cares about it (meaning someone who watches their show regularly), they’re probably already very far gone into an unreachable place, politically.  Or mathematically.  Or rationally.

    Take yer pick.  

     

     

     

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    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    This is just gas-lighting from Salon:

    Many impartial observers noticed that Trump supporters were inferring the president’s presence in the speeches all on their own. Again, none of the speakers at the funeral — not Obama or Bush or McCain — used Trump’s name. Yet, apparently Trump’s fans identified him. Some D.C. pundits asked on Twitter what this said about the president.

    Because you’re conceding POTUS’s unfitness if you assume that Meghan McCain was taking a shot at the President when she said the following:

    We gather here to mourn the passing of American greatness — the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly.

    John McCain came from a family that has given much to the US Navy and the country, was a combat veteran, and a returned POW who survived torture. For that real, willing sacrifice, he merited and received a military funeral and burial at Annapolis. He deserves honor and respect… for that.

    His long career in politics was marked by things which he was proud of to the end – such as McCain Feingold – but which harmed the Republic. His foreign policy ideas were at best mixed: right in one big thing, and wrong in many other things some of them not exactly small. His treatment of Sarah Palin was a disgrace. His service in politics deserves much less honor and respect than his military service. He used the latter as cover for the former. That’s not unknown in politics, but still.

    We should make allowances for a daughter in mourning, not look upon her as an infallible oracle.

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    A look at the crowd at the McCain funeral – and at who was not there – should make every conservative reconsider who is the real maverick and who was just a poseur.

    Similarly, McCain’s fans always lauded his “straight talk,” but those very same people continually urge another politician to stop tweeting.

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    Chris Campion (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

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    She (View Comment):

    This. Both of these, actually. What a remarkably ungracious display by Meghan McCain. And, frankly, disrespectful to her father in taking the attention off a celebration of his life into speculation about what she meant by “We gather here to mourn the passing of American greatness — the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly.”

    The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree, I guess.

    Was it Meghan McCain, or was she carrying out instructions from McCain? I don’t watch The View, so I don’t know what she is like.

    From the clips I’ve seen posted, she seems to be more combative on The View than you’d expect from her comments on Saturday, as the show’s current “Flavor of the Month” conservative (where that seat changes on a regular basis, while the show’s liberal hosts have lifetime tenure if they want it). Still, when The View comes back on Tuesday, Meghan’s comments should result in a big bonding moment for her with Joy Behar and Whoopi……

    I know it’s part of the pop culture, etc, and has some level of cultural impact, but who gives a crap about the parade of buffoons squawking on TV? If someone cares about it (meaning someone who watches their show regularly), they’re probably already very far gone into an unreachable place, politically. Or mathematically. Or rationally.

    Take yer pick.

    TV talking-head punditry has come a long way down since “Agronsky & Company” 40 years ago (if you placed the rotating panelists from then onto today’s cable channels, they might not act any differently then today’s screamers. But the decorum of 40 years ago always kept things from getting too heated and forced the talking heads to  back up their claims somewhat, while today’s TV producers and network execs want screaming and mindless hot-takes, because they think those serve to keep their core viewership watching).

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    Egyptian media personality and TV host Ahmed Moussa claimed that McCain, recognised in the US as a national war hero and longtime senator, was, in fact, the ‘real Supreme Guide’ of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    “John McCain is the real Supreme Guide of the terrorist Muslim Brotherhood, not Badee and not Akef,” Moussa said.

    “Today was John McCain’s funeral, which the leaders of the criminal Brotherhood in America have taken part in,” he continued, “ and they performed the Absentee funeral prayer for John McCain in Qatar, Turkey, USA, and Britain. ”

    “[McCain] was the main supporter for the terrorist Brotherhood,” he added. “Senator McCain was the one who opened up the Congress to the Brotherhood. He was the one arranging the meetings and appointments and providing them with protection.”

    It’s probably about things like this: back when Michelle Bachman was in Congress, she called for investigation of Muslim Brotherhood influence on and infiltration into the government. McCain denounced her and helped made sure the investigation didn’t happen. And he did support the Brotherhood in Egypt.

    “Supreme Guide” is hyperbolic, though.

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    Crowley just happened to have that very transcript ready to go, didn’t even have to look for it, amazing!

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    The Ikhwan again, from Spengler:

    In 2012, Senator McCain backed the installation of a Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt.

    In July 2013, more than 30 million Egyptians – a majority of the adult population – demonstrated against the country’s Muslim Brotherhood government. Under General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, Egypt’s military took control of the country, which was nearly out of food. Al-Sisi saved Egypt from starvation and chaos.

    Senator McCain sadly denounced the military takeover as a violation of the democratic process. Technically speaking it was a coup against an elected government, although under emergency conditions and with massive and visible popular support. So beguiled was McCain with the prospect of a democratic Islamic regime that he never accepted that his illusion had vanished.

    Sometime later I spoke with George W. Bush’s Director of Central Intelligence, General Michael Hayden. “We were sorry that [Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohamed] Morsi was overthrown” in July 2013, Hayden explained. “We wanted to see what would happen when the Muslim Brotherhood had to take responsibility for picking up the garbage.” 

    “General,” I remonstrated, “when Morsi was overthrown, Egypt had three weeks of wheat supplies on hand. The country was on the brink of starvation!” “I guess that experiment would have been tough on the ordinary Egyptian,” Hayden replied.

    He wasn’t joking. The ideological commitment of the Establishment to a new global order made facts irrelevant. If things weren’t that way, they should have been that way.

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