What Happens When Democrats Run Your State

 

In the video below, the Democrat carefully explains that people need to understand that the new California model is to have multi-generational families in each residence. That there is simply no need to increase housing — only population numbers via immigration are to be increased — not housing units.

In Stockton, CA, waves of immigration hit in the late 1980s through the 1990s. People were quick to divide up their homes into small apartments and some built granny units in their backyard.

So many people in Stockton became landlords. A lot of this was done “under the table” as building permits are expensive and require so much time. (A strip mall takes four years to get permitted in California, while in TX it takes only five months.) But the people living in the non-permitted units still needed schools, hospitals and clinics, police services, including prisons, and, of course, transit and highways. So it’s hardly surprising that Stockton went broke and declared bankruptcy.

For months, I have posted here that any time local officials are able to think about catering to immigrants, they stress the idea that it is too stressful for immigrants to learn English; the schools need to be mostly Spanish language. I often feel alone in this statement — but this video details how it is the reality.

The productive people are leaving the state. Note the wonderful interview with Jerry Brown, as he details his analysis — that the “smart business people will figure it out.” Sorry Moonbeam, the smart people now figure leaving this sorry state is the best business idea that they can come up with.

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  1. DonG Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    The only point I was trying to make earlier was that California has fifth-largest economy in the entire world. Of the 10 richest zip codes in the country, 4 are in California. Actually, according to CNBC, 14 out of the top 20 are in California. The unemployment rate is a low 4.3 percent right now.

    It’s sad that it has so many big problems.

     

    Another problem in California and other Lefty places is that it is impossible to build new infrastructure.  No roads, no water sources, no public transportation.  Cali is living off the infrastructure built in 60’s and 70’s.  That can’t last.

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  2. Quietpi Member
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    CarolJoy (View Comment):

    Cow Girl (View Comment):

    I got to live in California, altogether, for about 20 years. I moved to San Diego in 1973. SNIP

    I LOVED it. The weather, the ocean, the strawberries, the inexpensive college (at that time…). We were transferred across the country after that, and I’m so sad that I cannot return to coastal California to live again. Right now–I’m in Nevada–I have a job, and can afford to live in a house here.

    I’m close enough to visit my blissful, beautiful beaches, and see the orchards and enjoy the weather. It is devastating to see the levels of poverty, and homelessness in the areas where we once lived. We weren’t rich, and none of our neighbors were, either. However, we all considered ourselves middle-class, and our children weren’t in gangs. But, now, my friends’ adult children must move to another state to be able to live in their own house. Many families in our formerly “nice” neighborhood have several generations living in one home because there is no way to afford to live otherwise. Gangs invest every school that used to be a reasonable place for our children–and I substituted at most of the schools in the area. I wouldn’t dare do that now, as an aging white lady.

    It is just really, really sad. I loved living there, 20 years ago.

    I totally relate, Cow Girl. We stayed in California because we had a very sweet rental deal living on an estate, rather run down situation but in gorgeous Sausalito for only the pittance of $ 500 a month.

    Yes, yes, the beaches, the weather. For anyone in Marin County, Mt Tamalpais. My son went out of state to college. Upon graduation and his realizing how unlikely it would be to afford a nice house here, he stayed in the MidWest.

    I was back in Marin about five years ago. I hit my favorite ice cream parlor. A woman and her teen aged son strolled in. I could tell from his back pack that the kid went to my son’s old HS. So I made small talk, “Isn’t San Rafael HS great?” They both looked at me like I was nuts. Apparently in the 12 years since my son had attended, the teaching staff had come under the thumb of La Raza. So only teachers who were semi-literate in English and Spanish were teaching at the school. Also gangs were taking over. (That HS had been so decent that G. had gotten a full scholarship equal to about $ 100K due to how much he had learned while there. I can’t believe how quickly things get destroyed here.)

    She mentioned the hoops she was jumping through to somehow get a scholarship for her son to attend private high school. She was hooping she wouldn’t have to spend his college monies on HS!

    Yes, San Rafael has….. changed.  

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  3. CarolJoy Coolidge
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Unsk (View Comment):

    Carol, you will be happy to note that my great state of California will have a ballot initiative in November that would allow Cities :

    A. To limit all residential rent increases even after a tenant leaves to like one or two percent

    B. To extend rent control to all residences, even single family homes, condos and the really good part to even units built after 1995.

    So because these same cities can and often do these days raise taxes, fees, utility rates and other costs on rental units up the wazoo far outpacing the allowed rent increases , why would any developer in his right mind build any more rental units? Housing prices and rents are already way out of control. A new apartment in LA typically takes an income of around $100,000 just to qualify to rent, and this new wondrous ballot measure will only make matters worse- much worse. Our great Progressive Mayor ( and yes aspiring Presidential Candidate) Eric Garcetti is already looking into some wonderful new ways our city’s rent control ordinance can be expanded and tightened. As the campaign director for the new initiative, Damien Goodmon said “The time for rent gouging by corporate landlords is coming to an end.” And apparently by those evil Mom and Pop landlords too.

    This is actually worse than in New York, where the desirable locations are held onto by the renter with a literal death grip, but the landlord also holds onto the building because it is in a desirable location — when death finally looses the grip, or the tenant simply moves out, the landlord can then charge market rates.

    The California law’s limits on increases, especially if they’re below the rate of inflation plus the rising cost to maintain aging properties, means you may see landlords hold on in the preferred areas, if they’re still making some profit. But in the marginal ones you could get a 1970s Bronx/Brooklyn scenario, where the landlord is losing money on the property and just walks away from it.

    What could go wrong with such a situation, as the New Age thinking is as long as a population thinks positive, all will be well. So let’s have rent controls and also encourage  lots of immigration: the more people crammed into the fewest number of  residences – the merrier!

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  4. CarolJoy Coolidge
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    Unsk (View Comment):

    Three of the most important of the many problems with Leftist Progressive’s controlling your state are:

    A. They insist on “magical thinking”, or a staunch refusal to live in the real world where there are consequences to every action. They totally deny the idea of cause and effect, the real forces of nature, real climate change, laws of physics and mechanics and the law of supply and demand. Therefore almost anything they propose with real world consequences will fail miserably and almost immediately.

    B. They deny your Constitutional rights at will, and do not understand that those rights are there to protect the populace rather than oppress them. Almost every single one of their loony schemes is unconstitutional and can only be implemented by denying someone his or her rights, often horribly, which they are perfectly willing do at will without any remorse.

    C. They believe Free Markets are the problem rather than the solution. These loony Lefties are constantly trying to counteract the will of the Free Market blissfully unaware possible that heavy handed government constraints on market forces will eventually come back and horribly bite you in the butt nearly every time. They clearly don’t understand that Mother Economics, like Mother Nature can be one angry bitch when you cross her.

    One other problem is that if you don’t completely agree them, you will trigger a vile and violent anger that at a minimum borders on psychosis, and often crosses that line.

    A Leftist might not agree with your last statement, simply because you used their least favorite word: “borders.”

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  5. Gumby Mark Coolidge
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    DonG (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    The only point I was trying to make earlier was that California has fifth-largest economy in the entire world. Of the 10 richest zip codes in the country, 4 are in California. Actually, according to CNBC, 14 out of the top 20 are in California. The unemployment rate is a low 4.3 percent right now.

    It’s sad that it has so many big problems.

     

    Another problem in California and other Lefty places is that it is impossible to build new infrastructure. No roads, no water sources, no public transportation. Cali is living off the infrastructure built in 60’s and 70’s. That can’t last.

    You mean solar-powered light rail is not going to solve everything?

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  6. I Walton Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    I Walton (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    It sounds like California needs people in government with business experience.

    A guidance counselor told me once that for some kids, elementary and middle school work comes so easily that they don’t develop a work ethic or a way to learn. They run and succeed completely on intuition. When they get to high school, they get lost academically when the subject matter gets difficult. They have no solid learning and studying habits to get them through it.

    California has a similar problem, I think. It doesn’t know how to create and manage and preserve wealth because money came to it too easily in its formative years. :-)

    Business experience wouldn’t change the outcomes. What they need is less government. Business doesn’t work better because it has better people, it works better because it’s focus in narrow, it uses its own money, works on the basis or an information system that is up to the minute and even modest failure gets it replaced or improved. It’s Darwinian. Government is all dinosaurs all the time.

    If there’s a strong business influence on state government, those people can make a difference. New Hampshire thrives among the six New England states partly because of the influence of its business community on the state government. And I say that as an envious Massachusetts resident. :-)

    A strong business leadership group can exert a lot of positive influence at the state level.

    When Mitt Romney was running for president, he enjoyed tell the story from his Massachusetts governorship days of sending bills back to the legislature and policy plans back to the various state-level agencies asking for specific numbers. Paraphrasing, he said he couldn’t believe how few realistic numbers were attached to Massachusetts policies and plans. He did an enormous amount of good in just the four years he was our governor.

    Yes, first point above  is citizen business sector feed back, and you’re right it can  have positive influence  at the local level but is pernicious at the Federal level.  And of course some businessmen can govern well as can some politicians.    It’s that we often conflate successful market results  with the individuals engaged, and think we can get better results if we just get better people out of the private sector.  We often also  confuse pro business policies with pro market policies.   Those are both huge mistakes.   Keynes wasn’t an economist he was in finance.  Hayek feared  businessmen as policy makers because they don’t understand emergent systems.  So we see a whole generation of economists treating the economy as if it were a single business and politicians going along because it’s in their interest to do so.

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  7. Kozak Member
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    Quietpi (View Comment):
    This is the way liberals “solve” every “crisis.” They declare that “we need to have a conversation about this.” Then they go ahead and have the conversation, and that, allowing them to feel good about themselves, because they’ve shown that they care, consider the crisis conquered.

    They never want a conversation.

    That’s code for “shut up and listen”

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  8. Stad Coolidge
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    CarolJoy (View Comment):
    I am hoping that it doesn’t evolve into civil war. And that I am gone from here soon.

    And to think I almost moved there in 1982.  After my job interview at Diablo Canyon, I drove around San Luis Obispo and fell in love with it – until I saw the price of houses and apartments.  I was on a plane out the next morning . . .

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  9. Cosmik Phred Member
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    Gumby Mark (View Comment):

    DonG (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    The only point I was trying to make earlier was that California has fifth-largest economy in the entire world. Of the 10 richest zip codes in the country, 4 are in California. Actually, according to CNBC, 14 out of the top 20 are in California. The unemployment rate is a low 4.3 percent right now.

    It’s sad that it has so many big problems.

     

    Another problem in California and other Lefty places is that it is impossible to build new infrastructure. No roads, no water sources, no public transportation. Cali is living off the infrastructure built in 60’s and 70’s. That can’t last.

    You mean solar-powered light rail is not going to solve everything?

    I can’t wait to be able to travel between Merced and Shafter at blazing speeds.  It’ll be awesome!

    Jerry’s second (third?) act in politics seems to be about dismantling all that his father created.

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  10. Postmodern Hoplite Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):
    I imagine that if California were to break into two or three separate states, it might turn out to be an excellent opportunity for some weeding out of their no-longer-useful legacy budgets and policies.

    Speaking regretfully as an ex-pat Californio, all that would be accomplished if the current three-state proposal were approved by the US Congress would be the addition of four more Democratic senators. Each of the three new “Californias” is drawn to include a deep-blue urban anchor, enough to insure that the red counties of the state remain marginalized and politically insignificant. Of course, if the US Congress happens to have a Democratic supermajority when the proposal reaches D.C. it might actually happen. 

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  11. Postmodern Hoplite Coolidge
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    CarolJoy (View Comment):
    So I made small talk, “Isn’t San Rafael HS great?” They both looked at me like I was nuts.

    It’s things like this that break my heart. I graduated from San Rafael High in 1981. I can still sing the school fight song. To read of its demise and decline is enough to bring tears. 

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  12. Chris Campion Coolidge
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    I Walton (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    It sounds like California needs people in government with business experience.

    A guidance counselor told me once that for some kids, elementary and middle school work comes so easily that they don’t develop a work ethic or a way to learn. They run and succeed completely on intuition. When they get to high school, they get lost academically when the subject matter gets difficult. They have no solid learning and studying habits to get them through it.

    California has a similar problem, I think. It doesn’t know how to create and manage and preserve wealth because money came to it too easily in its formative years. :-)

    Business experience wouldn’t change the outcomes. What they need is less government. Business doesn’t work better because it has better people, it works better because it’s focus in narrow, it uses its own money, works on the basis or an information system that is up to the minute and even modest failure gets it replaced or improved. It’s Darwinian. Government is all dinosaurs all the time.

    I like that one.  Dinosaurs all the way down.

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  13. They call me PJ Boy or they ca… Member
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    CarolJoy (View Comment):
    (Recent tally on the latter indicated over 6,000 arrests made, and over 2,000 women and children freed from their enslaved lives.)

    Wow & OMG!  First time that I’m hearing about this.  

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  14. Freesmith Member
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    OK, Ricochet, time for a reality check.

    A post on California’s continuing woes elicits 43 comments and not a single one mentions: 

    Mexico

    Mexicans

    Hispanics

    Latinos

    You folks want to blame everything for the Golden State’s demise except the proverbial elephant in the room.

    Anybody want to tell me which ethnic population has exploded in size since 1990? Anybody?

    Anybody want to tell me what the percentage is of Hispanics in California, or is that irrelevant?

    I’m sure it feels better to talk about “leftism” and “progressivism” and the Romans and blah-blah-blah. I’m sure it’s more fun to make fun of Jerry Brown and the other ethnomasochists who currently rule California. But who gave them their huge majorities – the public employee unions or the Hispanic voters? 

    Well?

    And who is going to be replacing the Browns and Feinsteins over the next few years? It’ll be Hispanics and clever folks who can claim an Hispanic connection. Do you think Kevin de Leon is going to be changing policies?

    Draw the correct lesson from the problems outlined in the video and the post. We can live with liberalism. Americans have lived with it all around the country for decades. It ain’t good, but it can be managed. That’s the clear evidence of the American experience. But we cannot survive being turned into Latin America.

    OK, enough reality. Feel free to tell me how wrong-headed this comment is, how the situation in California has nothing to do with Mexicans, or at least nothing essential. 

    I know it makes you feel better.

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  15. I Walton Member
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    Chris Campion (View Comment):

    I Walton (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    It sounds like California needs people in government with business experience.

    A guidance counselor told me once that for some kids, elementary and middle school work comes so easily that they don’t develop a work ethic or a way to learn. They run and succeed completely on intuition. When they get to high school, they get lost academically when the subject matter gets difficult. They have no solid learning and studying habits to get them through it.

    California has a similar problem, I think. It doesn’t know how to create and manage and preserve wealth because money came to it too easily in its formative years. :-)

    Business experience wouldn’t change the outcomes. What they need is less government. Business doesn’t work better because it has better people, it works better because it’s focus in narrow, it uses its own money, works on the basis or an information system that is up to the minute and even modest failure gets it replaced or improved. It’s Darwinian. Government is all dinosaurs all the time.

    I like that one. Dinosaurs all the way down.

    Damn it, I didn’t even remember the turtles.

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  16. CarolJoy Coolidge
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    Freesmith (View Comment):

    OK, Ricochet, time for a reality check.

    A post on California’s continuing woes elicits 43 comments and not a single one mentions:

    Mexico

    Mexicans

    Hispanics

    Latinos

    You folks want to blame everything for the Golden State’s demise except the proverbial elephant in the room.

    Anybody want to tell me which ethnic population has exploded in size since 1990? Anybody?

    Anybody want to tell me what the percentage is of Hispanics in California, or is that irrelevant?

    I’m sure it feels better to talk about “leftism” and “progressivism” and the Romans and blah-blah-blah. I’m sure it’s more fun to make fun of Jerry Brown and the other ethnomasochists who currently rule California. But who gave them their huge majorities – the public employee unions or the Hispanic voters?

    Well?

    And who is going to be replacing the Browns and Feinsteins over the next few years? It’ll be Hispanics and clever folks who can claim an Hispanic connection. Do you think Kevin de Leon is going to be changing policies?

    SNIP

    But we cannot survive being turned into Latin America.

    OK, enough reality. Feel free to tell me how wrong-headed this comment is, how the situation in California has nothing to do with Mexicans, or at least nothing essential.

    I know it makes you feel better.

    It has only been since 2012 or so that the votes of the people from Mexico mattered. Way back in the early 1990’s due to release of unclassified demographics, there was all this fear that “the Mexican vote” was going to shift politics inside California. Few people considered that although  the population of latinos was large, the fact was that many weren’t citizens. The ones who were happened to be were under the age of 12.

    It is also true that many established citizens from Mexico and other parts of the world voted for Donald Trump. He received some 33% of the overall hispanic vote.

    Rob Morse, a reporter for the San Francisco Examiner had toured the Central Valley of Calif around 1993 or so. He tallied up how many people were not for immigration. What was interesting about his approach was that he avoided talking to WASP types. The people he interviewed had last names like Chung, King, Nguyen, Hernandez, Garcia et al. They were registered voters. They understood better than more liberal neighbors that if you let everyone in,  the society is going to go down.

    It’s hard to know what is happening ethnic group-wise now. The DNC controls the voter rolls. I bet they’ve heavily padded those rolls with fraudulent registrations. But it is also true that those from south of the border who were 12 in the 1990’s are now grown up and voting.

    However, if the Left can clinch the legalizing of an open borders policy, then all bets are off. California will become firmly  a state of Mexico and other places like Oregon will go that way also.

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  17. CarolJoy Coolidge
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    Freesmith (View Comment):

    OK, Ricochet, time for a reality check.

    A post on California’s continuing woes elicits 43 comments and not a single one mentions:

    Mexico

    Mexicans

    Hispanics

    Latinos

    You folks want to blame everything for the Golden State’s demise except the proverbial elephant in the room.

    Anybody want to tell me which ethnic population has exploded in size since 1990? Anybody?

    Anybody want to tell me what the percentage is of Hispanics in California, or is that irrelevant?

    I’m sure it feels better to talk about “leftism” and “progressivism” and the Romans and blah-blah-blah. I’m sure it’s more fun to make fun of Jerry Brown and the other ethnomasochists who currently rule California. But who gave them their huge majorities – the public employee unions or the Hispanic voters?

    Well?

    And who is going to be replacing the Browns and Feinsteins over the next few years? It’ll be Hispanics and clever folks who can claim an Hispanic connection. Do you think Kevin de Leon is going to be changing policies?

    Draw the correct lesson from the problems outlined in the video and the post. We can live with liberalism. Americans have lived with it all around the country for decades. It ain’t good, but it can be managed. That’s the clear evidence of the American experience. But we cannot survive being turned into Latin America.

    OK, enough reality. Feel free to tell me how wrong-headed this comment is, how the situation in California has nothing to do with Mexicans, or at least nothing essential.

    I know it makes you feel better.

    If Republicans were running the show in Calif, the welfare benefits would not have been so generous. Jerry Brown’s Supreme Court Judge overturned the victory the electorate had, that due to Prop 187 passing, benefits to anyone not a citizen would no longer happen. So that nullification of a needed situation allowed for continual migration.

    Liberals try  and say, “Well historically speaking, since California had belonged to Mexico, that is why so many migrate to the state. It is their homeland.” But it is also true that Arizona, Texas and Nevada belonged to Mexico once also. But Arizona and the other states are not as likely to give away generous welfare bennies, housing vouchers, food stamps etc. Currently people work and receive these benefits.

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  18. Freesmith Member
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    “Arizona and the other states are not as likely to give away generous welfare bennies, housing vouchers, food stamps etc.”

    Yet. 

    “Currently people work and receive these benefits.“

    Currently. 

    It’s not Open Borders, @caroljoy 

    It’s immigration. What happened in CA was accelerated by illegals and judicial overreach, but it was going to happen anyway, sooner or later. It’s in the process of happening now in Texas, Nevada, New Mexico and Georgia. It just isn’t getting the same attention in those states that huge California commands. 

    You can have America or you can have Latin America. Decide who you are, what you want for your children and act accordingly. 

    Build the Wall and deport them all. 

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  19. CarolJoy Coolidge
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    Freesmith (View Comment):

    “Arizona and the other states are not as likely to give away generous welfare bennies, housing vouchers, food stamps etc.”

    Yet.

    “Currently people work and receive these benefits.“

    Currently.

    It’s not Open Borders, @caroljoy

    It’s immigration. What happened in CA was accelerated by illegals and judicial overreach, but it was going to happen anyway, sooner or later. It’s in the process of happening now in Texas, Nevada, New Mexico and Georgia. It just isn’t getting the same attention in those states that huge California commands.

    You can have America or you can have Latin America. Decide who you are, what you want for your children and act accordingly.

    Build the Wall and deport them all.

    It was definitely an Open Borders policy that was pursued in many places in California. Marin County’s citizens demanded that ICE avoid their county – way back in the 1980’s this was happening. 

    Various monies were made available to organizations that helped latinos and latinas. Meryl Buck’s 12 million dollars that she had stipulated via a will were to be used to help citizens in Marin County were diverted to projects such as “resume writing for immigrants” and “job programs for immigrants.”

    Twice when I was unemployed in the 1990’s, friends would mention this program or that that would help me find a job. In the end, both programs were devoted to help latinas in their 40’s, not job displaced Americans.

    Anyway we can quibble over semantics, but the situation that is troubling for me is that people don’t mind a liberal  immigration policy or an open borders policy until they are affected by it. So I have friends in Missouri, Oregon and New Jersey who are all on their high horse of “Carol, how can you as a human being not go to bed worried over the poor children being detained away from their parents, in medieval torture chambers!?!” (Rachel Maddow had most of her program devoted to this last night.)

    Of course, once the Missourian can no longer send the children to local public schools because La Raza had seen to it that only semi-literate marginally educated people now teach in schools there, they will wake up. But by then it is too late.

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