When Will This Fad End?

 

This topic has been bouncing around my head for a while, but I’ve never gotten around to writing it. Someone on Ricochet will mention something, Jay Nordlinger months ago on a podcast complained about tattoos or a user whose name I forget recently said he was up for a good tattoo rant. Other times I see someone and think why?

I noticed markings on Dana Loesch’s arm in a Parkland CNN screenshot or a cross on a pastor’s back at a church swim party. Tattoos seem to be everywhere and there is no demographic that is exempt. This will come across as a get-off-my-lawn rant, but here we go.

I guess I’m a Generation X person. I still remember that about the only people who had tattoos were military veterans or criminals and they might only have one or two, no sleeves or multiple ones covering a lot of the body. Others might have had them, but they were in a private location. Maybe it was just where I grew up.

Some point along the way, tattoos became more mainstream. In the ’90s a lot of girls were getting lower back tattoos, but they were derided as “tramp stamps”. Then it seemed as though they exploded on the scene and everyone had one. Yes it’s me, but I have yet to see a tattoo that improves a woman’s appearance. As G. Gordon Liddy used to say, putting a tattoo on a woman is like putting a bumper sticker on a BMW. I will be glad when I don’t see ink everywhere I look.

Maybe things are changing. I saw this on Twitter. I don’t know what drove it, but we might be on the downward side of the trend. I can hope.

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  1. Amy Schley Coolidge
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    Al Sparks (View Comment):
    I’m not sure how much tattoos cost. But part of this is an indication of more disposable income.

    Obviously it depends on the size, complexity, and skill of the artist, but as I understand it, anything bigger than a few inches across that doesn’t look like it was done by a drunk convict is going to cost you three figures. Those elaborate multicolor full backs can get close to four. 

    But it’s not just a matter of disposable income. The people my age (35ish) whom I know who have tattoos aren’t the ones who have the most money to waste; they’re actually the ones barely making it, the ones who aren’t getting married, buying houses, or raising children. This trend is about more than just having extra money to spend. 

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  2. PHenry Inactive
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    Why tat’s?  Read this post, and its comments, and you will see why.  It’s to make you squeamish. To set themselves apart from the squeamish.   And it is working very well.

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    It was a lot easier a half-century ago to annoy your parents or make a statement about declaring your independence from mainstream society — grow your hair long and wear old beaten-up clothes. Boom, you’re edgy,

    That’s part of it. 

    I don’t think a tattoo should ever be taken lightly, but a well thought out and discreetly placed tattoo can be worn with pride and can show a lifetime commitment. 

    I have a heart with my daughters name in it on my chest.  Sorry it annoys and disturbs some of you so deeply, but not too sorry… And by the way, I’m a boomer.  A grandfather.  And it still looks good!

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  3. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Amy Schley (View Comment):
    I think the relationship is that a focus on self-decoration is part of living for today, and thus an indication of a stagnant or even declining culture.

    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):
    I agree with Michael Medved, tattoos are what people in primitive cultures do. This young woman had a very difficult childhood and, while very talented and occasionally hard working, has trouble holding a job. She hasn’t gotten a new one in a while…no money. I think people with so much ink have some psychological issues.

    These comments are around what I think. There are likely some kind of psychological issues being worked through. There’s a bit of self-abuse tied up with it. There’s an addiction factor — seems you can’t get just one. And I think it speaks of a culture that is both self-absorbed and sees no future. It possibly speaks of a culture that has it too easy and now seeks some kind of thrill in the rebellion of the act. 

    Which is not to say these things are true of everyone who gets a tattoo. Individuals may or may not be exempt. But the culture in which these individuals live . . . yeah, I’m judging it.

    One of my kids seems to think they’re pretty cool, and I hope I can knock some sense into her before she leaves the nest. Otherwise I expect I’m gonna see her on some future holiday with a tattoo, and I’m gonna cry my eyes out.

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  4. Umbra of Nex, Fractus Inactive
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    Shawn Buell (Majestyk) (View Comment):

    I saw one at the waterpark over the weekend that had an entire verse from Proverbs tattooed on her side.

     

    I got my modified pen keyboard name from a picture of a guy with an obviously machine translated from English to Latin version of Psalm 23 tattooed on himself. (Never mind that Latin Bibles aren’t exactly hard to find.) The phrase, “shadow of death,” came out as, “Umbra of Nex,” exactly as you see it in my name, with “nex” undeclined and “of” untranslated. (It should properly be, “Umbra Necis” if I remember my grammar correctly.)

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  5. Umbra of Nex, Fractus Inactive
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    PHCheese (View Comment):

    I am going to go out the way I came in.

    Naked and screaming? ;-)

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  6. PHenry Inactive
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    Amy Schley (View Comment):
    Obviously it depends on the size, complexity, and skill of the artist, but as I understand it, anything bigger than a few inches across that doesn’t look like it was done by a drunk convict is going to cost you three figures

    Obviously, cost is relative to time required, so generally the size and complexity is the key.  But it really isn’t that expensive.  As you say, a medium sized professional tattoo is one or two hundred dollars.  But a a pair of shoes or a handbag can be that much easily.  Tattoos last forever.  So is it really that expensive? 

    I think part of the reason there are so many tattoos today is exactly that the cost is relatively low.  Certainly, if you are homeless and starving that is an extravagance.  But for the average Joe, who really wants a tat, cost is not a major obstacle. 

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  7. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    PHenry (View Comment):

    I don’t think a tattoo should ever be taken lightly, but a well thought out and discreetly placed tattoo can be worn with pride and can show a lifetime commitment. 

    I have a heart with my daughters name in it on my chest.

    My brother in law has the same, with the name of the daughter they lost at childbirth. I will not criticize that.

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  8. Seawriter Contributor
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    I am not nearly at the point where I am “in the market” again. (Maybe another year. Or two.)  Yet, for me tattoos are a real turn-off.  I see one on a woman, and the hindbrain says, “just, no.”

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  9. Theodoric of Freiberg Inactive
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    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    to me it’s like graffiti on a lovely building

    Exactly!

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  10. Painter Jean Moderator
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    Mitchell Messom (View Comment):

    Wow the navel gazing in this post.

    This is done to freak us out! We did this. In our day! Blah blah me me me blah. More things change the more the stay the same.

    Its fashion people, men once wore high heels and powdered wigs. Now they don’t, well most of the time… And yet civilization didn’t fall.

    Wigs and heels can be taken off. That tattoos are permanent puts them in a different category. 

    How this conversation “navel-gazing”? It’s an interesting topic to discuss, at least for those who chose to read the post and comments. If you don’t agree, fine, but how is this “navel-gazing”? 

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  11. WillowSpring Member
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    I am surprised how many tattoos I see on middle aged women.  The technology must be pretty advanced.  The other day, I saw a tattoo on a woman’s calf (with lots of space) with a portrait of a young man with birth and death dates.  I assume it was her son.  The amazing thing was that it was very well done in grayscale – about like a B/W image would come out on a laser printer.

    The other problem is that I have a compulsion to read everything I see.  It is awkward when the tattoo is a Latin phrase in script across a woman’s chest.  How long am I allowed to stare at it in order to sort it out?

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  12. Mitchell Messom Inactive
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

     

    My problem with tattoos is that they’re so permanent. I can’t think of anything I’d want on my body like that forever.

     

    There are some nice temporary tattoos out there. Inkbox

    It avoids this problem….

    “Would a candidate having tattoos affect your decision to hire that person?”

    Yes. I would be less likely to hire them. 13.85%

    Yes. I would be more likely to hire them 0.31%

    No. It would not affect my decision. 22.77%

    It would depend on the role I was trying to fill. 35.08%

    It would depend on how many tattoos and where they were. 28.00%

    This means that a total 77% of employers will or might be less likely to hire you if you have tattoos.

     

    I pay too much in taxes.

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  13. Amy Schley Coolidge
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    PHenry (View Comment):
    But for the average Joe, who really wants a tat, cost is not a major obstacle. 

     But what isn’t being bought or saved with that car payment sized chunk of change? That’s what I’m getting at. The cost isn’t an obstacle, no, but the repeated decision to spend the money on something completely gratuitous instead of something useful (and yes, I include designer handbags and non – work three figure shoes in the list of gratuitous purchases) is suggestive of YOLO mindset that isn’t thinking about tomorrow, much less the day after one dies. 

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  14. Fred Cole Inactive
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    WI Con (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

     

    My problem with tattoos is that they’re so permanent. I can’t think of anything I’d want on my body like that forever.

     

    Speaking of permanent, that’s got me thinking – perhaps I can tattoo ‘hair’ on my bald spot.

    If I recall, Michael Jackson has eyebrows and specific hairline tattooed on himself.  That kind of thing at least makes sense to me. 

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  15. The Cynthonian Inactive
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    Al Sparks (View Comment):

    Gary McVey (View Comment):
    And what’s with the weird nail polish?

    Well, really it’s not nail polish. They’re nail pasties. They’re very easy (and cheap?) to apply, which is why you see so much of it. It’s perhaps at the cost of nail health. Occasionally I’ll spot a woman with natural nails that look pretty icky. I can tell that they normally have pasties on.

    Often I see someone with modest monochrome “nails” that are actually pasties. It makes their nails look a little longer.

    And now they’re concentrating some on their feet. Pedicures are more common and include these same type of pasties for their toe nails.

    I downgrade my perception of a woman’s appearance when I see that.

    @alsparks, what is a “pastie” in this context?   Many women who frequent nail salons these days have acrylic or gel overlays on their fingernails, which extend the natural nail bed sufficiently to show more color and/or design.  Designs are often hand-painted on the nail by the manicurist.  

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  16. Mitchell Messom Inactive
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    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Mitchell Messom (View Comment):

    Wow the navel gazing in this post.

    This is done to freak us out! We did this. In our day! Blah blah me me me blah. More things change the more the stay the same.

    Its fashion people, men once wore high heels and powdered wigs. Now they don’t, well most of the time… And yet civilization didn’t fall.

    Wigs and heels can be taken off. That tattoos are permanent puts them in a different category.

    How this conversation “navel-gazing”? It’s an interesting topic to discuss, at least for those who chose to read the post and comments. If you don’t agree, fine, but how is this “navel-gazing”?

    I don’t like it, thus collapse of civilization…. Errr yea. 

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  17. Concretevol Thatcher
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    Man, y’all are pretty puritanical aren’t you?  lol   Full disclosure: I do not have any tattoos, and sometimes feel like one of the only people left that doesn’t.  I thought Chris Loesch’s tweet was hilarious.  The reason I don’t have any isn’t any huge moral stand.  I like them when they have a special significance to the person, and I have never really found something that works for me.  I do not want to be the tribal tattoo/barbed wire/chinese symbol guy. :)   Maybe a nice tattoo of a concrete truck or a Power T for the Vols?  

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  18. Amy Schley Coolidge
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    WI Con (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

     

    My problem with tattoos is that they’re so permanent. I can’t think of anything I’d want on my body like that forever.

     

    Speaking of permanent, that’s got me thinking – perhaps I can tattoo ‘hair’ on my bald spot.

    If I recall, Michael Jackson has eyebrows and specific hairline tattooed on himself. That kind of thing at least makes sense to me.

    My mother had eyebrows tattooed on after menopause caused her own to fall out. 

    And lest anyone get me wrong, I’m not opposed to tattoos per se. There’s nothing I like so much that I would want it made a permanent part of me, and in my own case, it would more like graffiti on some Courbosier monstrosity than the Sistine Chapel. Sure, they’re a waste of money, but I sure don’t have any standing to feel high and mighty over others’ wasteful spending. 

    But in a “carpe diem” culture generally, multiple tattoos are a very visible marker of fully embracing a “the most important thing is me right now” attitude. 

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  19. Valiuth Member
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    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Military tattoos are generally OK with me, as they signify a special brotherhood. But that’s it. Tattoos on women are especially unappealing, as to me it’s like graffiti on a lovely building. On non-military guys it just looks adolescent. Most of all, whether male or female, it advertises to me that the person follows fads and is simply a sheep.

    It might also be a sign of cultural decay: The historian Paul Johnson states that primitive cultures decorate themselves, advanced cultures “decorate” outwardly, with art, music, etc.

    I can’t really understand the anti-tattoo bias. I’d never get one myself, but I’ve never once found tattoos to be off putting in and of themselves. I guess having grown up in the 90’s and early 00’s I saw plenty of tattoos around on normal everyday people. Thus I don’t much associate them with either the army or criminals. Maybe back in the past that was the case. But, since most cosmetics are ridiculous, from makeup to hair coloring it seems a rather trivial thing to judge people on. 

    The fact is that not getting a tattoo is as much following a fad as anything else. Either way you are giving into social pressure. The most rebellious thing might be to wear temporary tattoos when you feel like it. 

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  20. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    It’s true that older generations regularly complain about youth culture and how their particular idiosyncrasies herald the decline of civilization.

    And the younger generation laughs and says “You old farts say that about every generation.”

    As if that answers all concerns.

    Yet here we are declining.

     

     

     

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  21. Fred Cole Inactive
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    The fact is that not getting a tattoo is as much following a fad as anything else. Either way you are giving into social pressure. The most rebellious thing might be to wear temporary tattoos when you feel like it. 

    Okay, so, hypothetically speaking, if you had someone who wasn’t giving into social pressure for or against, what would that look like?

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  22. Valiuth Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    The fact is that not getting a tattoo is as much following a fad as anything else. Either way you are giving into social pressure. The most rebellious thing might be to wear temporary tattoos when you feel like it.

    Okay, so, hypothetically speaking, if you had someone who wasn’t giving into social pressure for or against, what would that look like?

    pantaloons and powdered wigs. That would be a free spirit. 

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  23. Mitchell Messom Inactive
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    Also of note its odd to complain about tattoos when one considers the amount of male circumcision in US. That’s a rather permanent change and one that lacks consent. One could say that’s rather “primitive”.

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  24. Hank Rhody, Total Rip-off Contributor
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    Seawriter (View Comment):
    Yet, for me tattoos are a real turn-off. I see one on a woman, and the hindbrain says, “just, no.”

    Any of you pro-tattoo guys want to comment on this? A guy with a tattoo is one thing. A girl with a tattoo is gilding the lily, at best.

    I do tend to react to people worse when they’re sporting tattoos. The guy at the game store with HICK LIFE across his knuckles, for example. (He’s actually a pretty good guy, and contra the previous graphic a productive member of society. He paints bridges for a living. Makes more money than I do, and he’s welcome to it.)

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  25. Bishop Wash Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    My problem with tattoos is that they’re so permanent. I can’t think of anything I’d want on my body like that forever.

    Maybe that’s part of my problem too. “Winona Forever” was Johnny Depp’s tattoo until they broke up a little while later. Someone spoofed the INRI cross by making the cross out of bacon and replacing INRI with IHOP. The image has been out there for years. Someone posted it to Twitter yesterday with the text, Finished my tattoo last night. Think I’ll log into Twitter and see what’s going on.

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  26. Buckpasser Member
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    As an old “get off my lawn” guy there are three questions I would ask my wife if she told me she was getting a tattoo:

     

    1.  Are you leaving me?
    2.  Are you asking me to leave you?
    3.  Are you being deployed to Afghanistan?

     

     

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  27. Hank Rhody, Total Rip-off Contributor
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):My problem with tattoos is that they’re so permanent. I can’t think of anything I’d want on my body like that forever.

    Never stopped me from eating a donut before.

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  28. Amy Schley Coolidge
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    Mitchell Messom (View Comment):

    Also of note its odd to complain about tattoos when one considers the amount of male circumcision in US. That’s a rather permanent change and one that lacks consent. One could say that’s rather “primitive”.

    As you noted, it is almost always done to a boy unable to consent. If I encountered lots of men bragging about how they got themselves circumcised to show just how hard core they were, I’d think that a primitive, YOLO behavior too. 

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  29. thelonious Member
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    Mitchell Messom (View Comment):

    Also of note its odd to complain about tattoos when one considers the amount of male circumcision in US. That’s a rather permanent change and one that lacks consent. One could say that’s rather “primitive”.

    Since it helps with hygiene, circumcision is a practical medical decision. Hardly primitive.

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  30. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Gen X is what age group? My niece is covered with them – a trend that went off the charts. I saw a young woman with a large chest wearing a very low cut top who had tattooed eyes looking down at them – really??! It was not attractive.  I remember a couple women – one a restaurant server who had pentagrams tattooed on the arms, and one I worked with in a professional setting – eewww – but I’ll take the tats over all the hideous piercings….

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