Attorney General Jeff Sessions Fires Andrew McCabe

 

From the Washington Post:

Attorney General Jeff Sessions late Friday night fired former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, a little more than 24 hours before McCabe was set to retire.

Sessions announced the decision in a statement just before 10 p.m., noting that both the Justice Department Inspector General and the FBI office that handles discipline had found “that Mr. McCabe had made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor — including under oath — on multiple occasions.”

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  1. Ruthenian Inactive
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Mike-K (View Comment):

    Ruthenian (View Comment):
    I guess the government is more generous than my company that has a threshold of 55 for early retirement.

    My daughter is an FBI agent and will soon have 20 years and can retire. She thinks she will continue until 57 which is mandatory retirement age according to her understanding.

    Law enforcement officers can retire early. In exchange, they are subject to early mandatory retirement.

    I agree with @harrisventures in #151 that the pension is not an issue. I think it is an appeal to emotions of folks who may think that he is being denied something.  In fact it is a choice.  He could have retired on the day he first knew he was in trouble – just for less than what he had planned for…

    I have colleagues within the company that have continued working past 55 with an intention to go to 65 or 67.  Also, I have – now former – colleagues, who upon hitting 55 quit/retired and took other jobs where they got a much larger pay in lieu of the benefits, as they already had a pension and a health insurance.  At the end it is what one wants to do, and how one planned for the later years of his working days.  I just wanted to point out that at some jobs pensions are sweet and at some are non-existent.  In the company I work for, I am grandfathered into a pension plan whereas all new employees since 2004 had to accept 401k benefit with 7% matching by the company.  And  all these contracts are not a sure thing either.  In 2011 my company was acquired by another entity and my contractual formula got changed.  My choice was to either quit at the end of 2010 and to get my benefits as originally contracted for – some of my colleagues did just that, or I could accept a freeze of years of service in the formula in exchange for a 401k option with up to 4% matching.  Well! I am still working at the same place.  Again, the guy is not going to suffer.  He will have to rearrange his plans… unless he ends up in a pen…

    The whole thing is really about what he did; the pension angle is a red herring.  He screwed up and got caught…

    • #181
  2. Gumby Mark Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):
    This could get interesting. I’ll check the stories tomorrow. Karma?

    [Law professor Jonathan]Turley noted, “This could easily spin further out of control. There was one line in the case statement last night that I immediately flagged. Because he said that he had authority to do this and he conferred with the director—the director at the time was James Comey.” Turley continued: “Now, the problem there is that James Comey said under oath that he never leaked information and never approved a leak. So, if the Inspector General believes this was a leak to the media, it raises serious questions about Comey’s previous testimony and could get him into serious trouble.”

    I spotted the same thing.  It appears either Comey or McCabe lied.  Whoever did should be subject to prosecution.

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  3. DrewInWisconsin 🚫 Banned
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    Gumby Mark (View Comment):
    Whoever did should be subject to prosecution.

    Should be.

    But won’t be.

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  4. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I would be very interested to see how many of my fellow Ricochetti address this statement by McCabe who has been silent so far.

    I begin with this statement by the Attorney General:

    After an extensive and fair investigation and according to Department of Justice procedure, the Department’s Office of the Inspector General provided its report on allegations of misconduct by Andrew McCabe to the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility,” Sessions said in a statement at about 10 p.m. ET Friday night. “The FBI’s OPR then reviewed the report and underlying documents and issued a disciplinary proposal recommending the dismissal of Mr. McCabe. Both the OIG and FBI OPR reports concluded that Mr. McCabe had made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor — including under oath — on multiple occasions.

    Leaking and lying “lacked candor under oath on multiple occasions.” Whatever laws this may or may not have violated, this is apparently a violation of the FBI’s internal policies.

    If there is evidence to substantiate those charges, as I understand it, and I am not a lawyer or HR expert, that would seem sufficient grounds to fire him.

    Now McCabe’s statement. First, it is clearly the product of a powerful and disciplined mind with the ability to make fine moral distinctions.
    Only such a man would be able to be certain that he had no conflict of interest, and to determine for himself that the inevitable although (given the magnificent character his statement proves) obviously false appearance of conflict of interest over the trivial $700,000 the Clintons gave his wife’s election campaign (and, since @garyrobbins contributed to the Clinton campaign war chest, he also – de facto – made a modest contribution to a McCabe’s wife’s campaign.)

    True, the server investigation was virtually certain to spill over to the Clinton campaign. But this was obviously known by the Director, who could not possibly have considered it not to be significant. After all, the Director knew that any thorough investigation of the server would involve the President, so that was clearly going nowhere. Where could any hypothetical conflict lie? The campaign contribution could have no possible effect on the investigation, since the outcome was predetermined by the White House and the Attorney General.

    As to the supposed oaths and the supposed lies, that was overridden by the need to protect the President and Hillary, the only person standing between Trump and the White House.

    This was a bipartisan understanding. For True Conservatives, the Dems couldn’t possibly do that much damage in eight, or sixteen years, maybe more. The True Conservatives are the Saving Remnant, so they must be correct.

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  5. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    [continued]

    It is immediately obvious to any sophisticated and mature mind that even though under the Democrats, the flow of conservatives to the federal bench will stop and the progressives will again be able to take their rightful seats on the bench, and the horrific purge that might eliminate progressives from upper levels of government will stop, it’s irrelevant. After all, the schools are educating young Americans to value Liberty, so the disaster of another eight or sixteen years of Democrat rule will only feed the thirst of the voters for True Conservatism!

    The nobility of McCabe’s position has only been proven further since the catastrophe of November ’16. It has become increasingly dangerous to the conservative movement to have Trump in the White House one second longer. Since this is the highest possible national priority, the end of getting rid of Trump clearly justifies any means.

    It would have been much, much better to keep the man out of the White House in the first place. McCabe and his coconspirators band of brothers tried valiantly to to that. Sadly, they failed and the evil victors are martyring this noble man.

    We can clearly see that conspiracy, obstruction of justice, lying under oath, any of those things, even worse crimes – should they have been committed – are all made into virtues by the critical importance of the cause. After the November Nakba, the so-called conspirators tried to spare the professionals who should run the country from putting the country through the trauma of impeachment, which is lengthy and, even worse, by no means certain.

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  6. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    I just saw this from Paul Mirengoff at Powerlline. it seems relevant.

     

    …at Lawfare, a resistance site, Quinta Jurecic and Benjamin Wittes say they are reserving judgment about the firing, and they caution others to do the same. “It is simply not clear at this stage whether or not the record will support his dismissal,” they say.

    They are right. It isn’t clear, and won’t be until the full inspector general report on the Clinton email investigation, including information on McCabe’s conduct, is released.

    However, there is a sound basis to form a tentative belief that the firing of McCabe was justified. That basis comes through in what Jurecic and Wittes write:

    The FBI takes telling the truth extremely seriously: “lack of candor” from employees is a fireable offense—and people are fired for it. Moreover, it doesn’t take an outright lie to be dismissed. In one case, the bureau fired an agent after he initially gave an ambiguous statement to investigators as to how many times he had picked up his daughter from daycare in an FBI vehicle. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit ruled against the agent when he appealed, finding that “lack of candor is established by showing that the FBI agent did not ‘respond fully and truthfully’ to the questions he was asked.”

    So if McCabe was less than candid in answering questions, his firing was justified and consistent with FBI practice. Was he? We don’t know. But the finding that McCabe did not meet FBI standards for honesty was made by career Justice Department officials, not Jeff Sessions or other political appointees. As Jurecic and Wittes say:

    [A]lthough Sessions made the ultimate call to fire McCabe, the public record shows that the process resulting in the FBI deputy director’s dismissal involved career Justice Department and FBI officials—rather than political appointees selected by President Trump—at crucial points along the way. To begin with, the charges against McCabe arose out of the broader Justice Department Office of Inspector General (OIG) investigation into the FBI’s handling of the Clinton email investigation.

    While the inspector general is appointed by the president, the current head of that office, Michael Horowitz, was appointed by President Barack Obama and is himself a former career Justice Department lawyer. As Jack Goldsmith has written, the inspector general has a great deal of statutory independence, which Horowitz has not hesitated to use: Most notably, he produced a highly critical 2012 report into the Justice Department’s “Fast and Furious” program. So a process that begins with Horowitz and his office carries a presumption of fairness and independence. [emphases by Paul Mirengoff]

    Mirengoff then notes:

    Once Horowitz was done, other career DOJ officials were handed the baton — officials whose work should also be presumed fair and independent.

    McCabe’s statement must be read in the light of this information.

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  7. Basil Fawlty Member
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    McCabe’s statement reads like a written response to an adverse action proposal to fire him. If that’s what it actually is, then there should be a notice of proposed removal in his possession that gives chapter and verse of the justification for his firing. McCabe is free to release this notice if he so chooses. The date of the proposal notice would tell us when the tentative decision to fire him was formalized. If it was dated fewer than 30 days (the usual required notice period) before his actual removal, this would indicate that the individual issuing the proposal notice had reason to believe that McCabe had committed a crime for which a sentence of imprisonment may be imposed.

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  8. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Ruthenian (View Comment):
    In fact it is a choice. He could have retired on the day he first knew he was in trouble – just for less than what he had planned for…

    I don’t believe he met the minimum age requirement to retire at that time.

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  9. Ruthenian Inactive
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):
    I don’t believe he met the minimum age requirement to retire at that time.

    Per the guideline link in your comment earlier (#56), he should be eligible for early retirement at the age of 56, and, yet, he was going to retire at 50 with 21 years of service. He must be working from a different set of rules.

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  10. Ruthenian Inactive
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):
    McCabe’s statement reads like a written response to an adverse action proposal to fire him. If that’s what it actually is, then there should be a notice of proposed removal in his possession that gives chapter and verse of the justification for his firing. McCabe is free to release this notice if he so chooses. The date of the proposal notice would tell us when the tentative decision to fire him was formalized. If it was dated fewer than 30 days (the usual required notice period) before his actual removal, this would indicate that the individual issuing the proposal notice had reason to believe that McCabe had committed a crime for which a sentence of imprisonment may be imposed.

    Per Sundance at the Conservative Tree House commenting on a statement from McCabe’s lawyer:

    “[…] It would appear toward the end of last month (February), McCabe and his attorney were given the summary outline of the OIG referral submitted to the Office of Professional Responsibility. They had approximately three weeks to file a response.

    Then a week ago, they received the finalized a copy of the OPR recommendation delivered to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. They had four more days to respond to the Deputy AG.[…]”

    • #190
  11. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Ruthenian (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):
    I don’t believe he met the minimum age requirement to retire at that time.

    Per the guideline link in your comment earlier (#56), he should be eligible for early retirement at the age of 56, and, yet, he was going to retire at 50 with 21 years of service. He must be working from a different set of rules.

    Ruthenian (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):
    I don’t believe he met the minimum age requirement to retire at that time.

    Per the guideline link in your comment earlier (#56), he should be eligible for early retirement at the age of 56, and, yet, he was going to retire at 50 with 21 years of service. He must be working from a different set of rules.

    I think he was covered by the special law enforcement officer/firefighter pension provision, which allows retirement at age 50 with 20 years service or at any age with 25 years of service.  It’s more generous than regular early retirement.

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  12. Kozak Member
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    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    After watching the whole sordid swamp story last night on Fox, where McCabe is just one piece of an ugly puzzle, his pension sounds like the least of his problems.

    I’d be OK with him collecting it at a Leavenworth address…..

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  13. Kozak Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Locke On (View Comment):

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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    The foot soldiers know that they will be legally crucified for the same thing.

    My daughter is an agent with close to twenty years. In September 2016, I asked her about the election. She has been a lefty since law school. I still chuckle about her telling me my days were over since I was a white male. This was when I was picking up the check for the dinner after her law school graduation.

    Anyway, when I asked her about the election, she told me she would NOT vote for Hillary. She said, “I won’t vote for Trump but I won’t vote for Hillary.”

    When she said that, I knew that the FBI rank and file knew Hillary was dirty. It is my theory that Comey was facing an agent revolt when he made that weird press conference in July 2016.

    I didn’t vote for Hillary either.

    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041247749
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041237487
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041237947
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041253037
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201702149049587293
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201702149049564816

    I gave money to Evan McMullin, Gary Johnson and Hillary Clinton in 2016, all in an effort to defeat Trump. I have no regrets for doing so.

    The reason was simple in a quote that I saw at the time: “Conservatism survives and thrives if it spends 4 years in opposition to Hillary Clinton; conservatism dies if it spends 4 years in compliance with Donald Trump.” So far, Trump is doing an excellent job in destroying conservatism, with his complete lack of control which is driving women, suburban and young voters into the Democrat’s arms. See PA-18 and the Alabama Senate race.

    Behavior I would expect from a self  proclaimed Democrat.

    • #193
  14. Kozak Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    The reason was simple in a quote that I saw at the time: “Conservatism survives and thrives if it spends 4 years in opposition to Hillary Clinton; conservatism dies if it spends 4 years in compliance with Donald Trump.”

    Jam yesterday and jam tomorrow but never jam today.

    4 years of Hillary continuing the destruction of Obama, and the country most of us would recognize would be gone.

    • #194
  15. Kozak Member
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    Steve C. (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    To have my career end in this way, and to be accused of lacking candor when at worst I was distracted in the midst of chaotic events, is incredibly disappointing and unfair.

    Doesn’t he realize lying to the FBI is a crime?

    Only for the Proles, not the Patricians.

    • #195
  16. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Ruthenian (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):
    McCabe’s statement reads like a written response to an adverse action proposal to fire him. If that’s what it actually is, then there should be a notice of proposed removal in his possession that gives chapter and verse of the justification for his firing. McCabe is free to release this notice if he so chooses. The date of the proposal notice would tell us when the tentative decision to fire him was formalized. If it was dated fewer than 30 days (the usual required notice period) before his actual removal, this would indicate that the individual issuing the proposal notice had reason to believe that McCabe had committed a crime for which a sentence of imprisonment may be imposed.

    Per Sundance at the Conservative Tree House commenting on a statement from McCabe’s lawyer:

    “[…] It would appear toward the end of last month (February), McCabe and his attorney were given the summary outline of the OIG referral submitted to the Office of Professional Responsibility. They had approximately three weeks to file a response.

    Then a week ago, they received the finalized a copy of the OPR recommendation delivered to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. They had four more days to respond to the Deputy AG.[…]”

    Normally, you must get a firing proposal a minimum of 30 days before a decision to fire can be implemented.  You have seven days from the proposal date to reply. As I noted above, the crime provision can serve to shorten the 30-day notice period, but not the seven-day reply period. The Justice OPR may have its own procedures, but the adverse action procedures described are set by law government-wide, and I’d be surprised if McCabe’s removal wasn’t processed using them. But it’s possible that Justice and the FBI have their own rules, or that McCabe’s appointment didn’t convey full civil service protections. That’s why I’d love to see the paperwork he received.

    Edit: The FBI does, in fact, have a separate system for taking adverse actions. Their system still requires a proposal notice, but the time limits may be different from those that apply to other federal employees.

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  17. Mike-K Member
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    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):
    For True Conservatives, the Dems couldn’t possibly do that much damage in eight, or sixteen years, maybe more. The True Conservatives are the Saving Remnant, so they must be correct.

    Yes, I understand Bill Kristol is planning to challenge Trump in 2020. That’ll teach him !

    • #197
  18. Gary Robbins 🚫 Banned
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Locke On (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Mike-K (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    The foot soldiers know that they will be legally crucified for the same thing.

    My daughter is an agent with close to twenty years. In September 2016, I asked her about the election. She has been a lefty since law school. I still chuckle about her telling me my days were over since I was a white male. This was when I was picking up the check for the dinner after her law school graduation.

    Anyway, when I asked her about the election, she told me she would NOT vote for Hillary. She said, “I won’t vote for Trump but I won’t vote for Hillary.”

    When she said that, I knew that the FBI rank and file knew Hillary was dirty. It is my theory that Comey was facing an agent revolt when he made that weird press conference in July 2016.

    I didn’t vote for Hillary either.

    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041247749
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041237487
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041237947
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041253037
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201702149049587293
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201702149049564816

    I gave money to Evan McMullin, Gary Johnson and Hillary Clinton in 2016, all in an effort to defeat Trump. I have no regrets for doing so.

    The reason was simple in a quote that I saw at the time: “Conservatism survives and thrives if it spends 4 years in opposition to Hillary Clinton; conservatism dies if it spends 4 years in compliance with Donald Trump.” So far, Trump is doing an excellent job in destroying conservatism, with his complete lack of control which is driving women, suburban and young voters into the Democrat’s arms. See PA-18 and the Alabama Senate race.

    Behavior I would expect from a self proclaimed Democrat.

    Republican Precinct-Committeeperson.  Republican Candidate.  Attended Republican State Conventions.  Not voted for a Democrat for President since I was in college in 1972.  Given ten times more money to Republicans than Democrats.

    James A. Baker famously said that it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.

    • #198
  19. Gary Robbins 🚫 Banned
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    Mike-K (View Comment):

    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):
    For True Conservatives, the Dems couldn’t possibly do that much damage in eight, or sixteen years, maybe more. The True Conservatives are the Saving Remnant, so they must be correct.

    Yes, I understand Bill Kristol is planning to challenge Trump in 2020. That’ll teach him !

    Someone will run.  Romney, Flake, Sasse, someone will run in the Republican Primary.  And the talk is of an Independent Third Party Challenge by Kasich.  This Republican will never vote for Trump in the primary or general election.  I suspect there are many other Republicans who won’t either.

    • #199
  20. Gary Robbins 🚫 Banned
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Ruthenian (View Comment):
    In fact it is a choice. He could have retired on the day he first knew he was in trouble – just for less than what he had planned for…

    I don’t believe he met the minimum age requirement to retire at that time.

    See Comment 171.  Today is McCabe’s 50th Birthday.  A couple of Democrats in Congress have offered McCabe a job for a day so that he can retire as a federal employee at the age of 50, with over 20 years of a law enforcement background.

    • #200
  21. DrewInWisconsin 🚫 Banned
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    NeverTrumpers are a serious threat to the conservative movement.

    They would happily see conservatism defeated rather than succeed under a President they hate. Because conservative success would mean they would be forced to credit President Trump, and they are simply too egotistical to do that.

    • #201
  22. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Kasich

    Kasich is a nightmare. He’s just as bad of an inflationist as Trump and everything else he brings is completely negative. Vote buying RINO central planner.

    • #202
  23. Mike-K Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    This Republican will never vote for Trump in the primary or general election. I suspect there are many other Republicans who won’t either.

    The Deep State has many allies. Trump has a serious task to try to restore our country that Lyndon Johnson destroyed. I’m not sure he can do it.

    The NeverTrumpers are on the side of the Deep State. I’m sure Bill Kristol is. His father would be ashamed.

    • #203
  24. DrewInWisconsin 🚫 Banned
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    A couple of Democrats in Congress have offered McCabe a job for a day so that he can retire as a federal employee at the age of 50, with over 20 years of a law enforcement background.

    I hope you can see that for the sick political theatrics that it is, as well as disrespect for the rule of law and a slap in the face of the citizen class.

    • #204
  25. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    A couple of Democrats in Congress have offered McCabe a job for a day so that he can retire as a federal employee at the age of 50, with over 20 years of a law enforcement background.

    I hope you can see that for the sick political theatrics that it is, as well as disrespect for the rule of law and a slap in the face of the citizen class.

    But it will be a finger in the eye to Trump so all is good

    • #205
  26. Django Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Mike-K (View Comment):

    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):
    For True Conservatives, the Dems couldn’t possibly do that much damage in eight, or sixteen years, maybe more. The True Conservatives are the Saving Remnant, so they must be correct.

    Yes, I understand Bill Kristol is planning to challenge Trump in 2020. That’ll teach him !

    Someone will run. Romney, Flake, Sasse, someone will run in the Republican Primary. And the talk is of an Independent Third Party Challenge by Kasich. This Republican will never vote for Trump in the primary or general election. I suspect there are many other Republicans who won’t either.

    Those you mention would rather see Hillary in office than Trump. I suspect it of all and know it of at least one. I won’t vote for any of them. So, go ahead and destroy the party. Give control to the Democrats. Then, don’t complain about what they do.

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  27. Kozak Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Locke On (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Mike-K (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    The foot soldiers know that they will be legally crucified for the same thing.

    My daughter is an agent with close to twenty years. In September 2016, I asked her about the election. She has been a lefty since law school. I still chuckle about her telling me my days were over since I was a white male. This was when I was picking up the check for the dinner after her law school graduation.

    Anyway, when I asked her about the election, she told me she would NOT vote for Hillary. She said, “I won’t vote for Trump but I won’t vote for Hillary.”

    When she said that, I knew that the FBI rank and file knew Hillary was dirty. It is my theory that Comey was facing an agent revolt when he made that weird press conference in July 2016.

    I didn’t vote for Hillary either.

    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041247749
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041237487
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041237947
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041253037
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201702149049587293
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201702149049564816

    I gave money to Evan McMullin, Gary Johnson and Hillary Clinton in 2016, all in an effort to defeat Trump. I have no regrets for doing so.

    The reason was simple in a quote that I saw at the time: “Conservatism survives and thrives if it spends 4 years in opposition to Hillary Clinton; conservatism dies if it spends 4 years in compliance with Donald Trump.” So far, Trump is doing an excellent job in destroying conservatism, with his complete lack of control which is driving women, suburban and young voters into the Democrat’s arms. See PA-18 and the Alabama Senate race.

    Behavior I would expect from a self proclaimed Democrat.

    Republican Precinct-Committeeperson. Republican Candidate. Attended Republican State Conventions. Not voted for a Democrat for President since I was in college in 1972. Given ten times more money to Republicans than Democrats.

    James A. Baker famously said that it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.

    Gary Robbins is a Flagstaff family law attorney who ran for Superior Court in 2012. He describes his politics as being a national NeverTrump Republican and an Arizona Democrat.

    It calls itself a goose.

    • #207
  28. cdor Member
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    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):
    Sessions said in a statement at about 10 p.m. ET Friday night. “The FBI’s OPR then reviewed the report and underlying documents and issued a disciplinary proposal recommending the dismissal of Mr. McCabe. Both the OIG and FBI OPR reports concluded that Mr. McCabe had made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor — including under oath — on multiple occasions.

    As discussed at  The Conservative Treehouse,

    McCabe’s “under oath” lying (lacking candor in FBI speak) possibly occurred while talking to the invisible outside prosecutor that Sessions spoke about having hired, as the Inspector General has no power to question folks under oath. Or…McCabe lied in his Congressional testimony.

     

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  29. cdor Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Mike-K (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    The foot soldiers know that they will be legally crucified for the same thing.

    My daughter is an agent with close to twenty years. In September 2016, I asked her about the election. She has been a lefty since law school. I still chuckle about her telling me my days were over since I was a white male. This was when I was picking up the check for the dinner after her law school graduation.

    Anyway, when I asked her about the election, she told me she would NOT vote for Hillary. She said, “I won’t vote for Trump but I won’t vote for Hillary.”

    When she said that, I knew that the FBI rank and file knew Hillary was dirty. It is my theory that Comey was facing an agent revolt when he made that weird press conference in July 2016.

    I didn’t vote for Hillary either.

    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041247749
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041237487
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041237947
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041253037
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201702149049587293
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201702149049564816

    I gave money to Evan McMullin, Gary Johnson and Hillary Clinton in 2016, all in an effort to defeat Trump. I have no regrets for doing so.

    The reason was simple in a quote that I saw at the time: “Conservatism survives and thrives if it spends 4 years in opposition to Hillary Clinton; conservatism dies if it spends 4 years in compliance with Donald Trump.” So far, Trump is doing an excellent job in destroying conservatism, with his complete lack of control which is driving women, suburban and young voters into the Democrat’s arms. See PA-18 and the Alabama Senate race.

    Behavior I would expect from a self proclaimed Democrat.

    Republican Precinct-Committeeperson. Republican Candidate. Attended Republican State Conventions. Not voted for a Democrat for President since I was in college in 1972. Given ten times more money to Republicans than Democrats.

    James A. Baker famously said that it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.

    Gary Robbins is a Flagstaff family law attorney who ran for Superior Court in 2012. He describes his politics as being a national NeverTrump Republican and an Arizona Democrat.

    It calls itself a goose.

    Well  that last statement, considering all the rhetoric expounded on this site, does not surprise me one little, tiny bit. An Arizona Democrat professing to be a Republican. Someone please define “troll”. I am a bit old for this new internet lingo.

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  30. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
    @Percival

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Locke On (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Mike-K (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    The foot soldiers know that they will be legally crucified for the same thing.

    My daughter is an agent with close to twenty years. In September 2016, I asked her about the election. She has been a lefty since law school. I still chuckle about her telling me my days were over since I was a white male. This was when I was picking up the check for the dinner after her law school graduation.

    Anyway, when I asked her about the election, she told me she would NOT vote for Hillary. She said, “I won’t vote for Trump but I won’t vote for Hillary.”

    When she said that, I knew that the FBI rank and file knew Hillary was dirty. It is my theory that Comey was facing an agent revolt when he made that weird press conference in July 2016.

    I didn’t vote for Hillary either.

    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041247749
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041237487
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041237947
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201701099041253037
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201702149049587293
    http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201702149049564816

    I gave money to Evan McMullin, Gary Johnson and Hillary Clinton in 2016, all in an effort to defeat Trump. I have no regrets for doing so.

    The reason was simple in a quote that I saw at the time: “Conservatism survives and thrives if it spends 4 years in opposition to Hillary Clinton; conservatism dies if it spends 4 years in compliance with Donald Trump.” So far, Trump is doing an excellent job in destroying conservatism, with his complete lack of control which is driving women, suburban and young voters into the Democrat’s arms. See PA-18 and the Alabama Senate race.

    Behavior I would expect from a self proclaimed Democrat.

    Republican Precinct-Committeeperson. Republican Candidate. Attended Republican State Conventions. Not voted for a Democrat for President since I was in college in 1972. Given ten times more money to Republicans than Democrats.

    James A. Baker famously said that it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.

    Gary Robbins is a Flagstaff family law attorney who ran for Superior Court in 2012. He describes his politics as being a national NeverTrump Republican and an Arizona Democrat.

    It calls itself a goose.

    Different Gary Robbins, probably.

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