Dana Lashes Little George

 

Long past the demise of the Tea Party, the movement’s most enduring heroine stepped stomped forward to challenge Leftmedia’s putsch against the United States Constitution. Sure, we all know who she is. We know that she’s whip-smart and tough as nails. But I don’t think one in 50 Americans could even pronounce her name before George Stephanopoulos introduced her as a guest on “This Week” Sunday morning.

I don’t know if she’s ever been on such a mainstream, national stage — certainly not at a time in which Americans are focusing on her issue. I’m sure that most Americans tuning into this “Sunday morning show” considered this her debut (CNN’s circus stunt last week doesn’t qualify as an adult, mainstream stage).

Clearly, George had his hands full for 11 solid minutes. At no point in the interview did Mrs. Loesch allow the wily Clinton operative to put her on the defensive. And she actually offered a plan of action for improving security in schools. If you must deprive yourself of the entire “Loesching” then at least jump in at ~10:00 for her capsule summary.

How did she do? Did she enlighten anyone?

Will she ever be invited back?

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  1. Boss Mongo Member
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    livingthenonScienceFictionlife (View Comment):
    Translation:

    Showing this clip isn’t fair to the young lady in black; she’s waaayy tougher than George.

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  2. Phil Turmel Inactive
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    Skyler (View Comment):
    But even still the NRA brags that they helped institute the NICS background check system. The NRA cares nothing about the Constitution, except when it serves their lobbying interests.

    This is a vile slander against the NRA.  Our Constitution and Bill of Rights don’t say we can never have our rights taken away — they say there must be a due process to take them away for cause.  Generally known as felonies (and/or judgements of incompetence).  States were holding up exercise of the 2A bureaucratically through long background checks looking for any cause, and making up causes along the way.  The NICS is a federal system to force states to honor our 2A rights in a timely manner.

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  3. Skyler Coolidge
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    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):
    But even still the NRA brags that they helped institute the NICS background check system. The NRA cares nothing about the Constitution, except when it serves their lobbying interests.

    This is a vile slander against the NRA. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights don’t say we can never have our rights taken away — they say there must be a due process to take them away for cause. Generally known as felonies (and/or judgements of incompetence). States were holding up exercise of the 2A bureaucratically through long background checks looking for any cause, and making up causes along the way. The NICS is a federal system to force states to honor our 2A rights in a timely manner.

    The second amendment says “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.”  You’re talking about rights being removed for cause, which requires due process.  Due process means a court action and a chance to defend yourself.  NICS is a prior restraint on exercising the right to keep and bear arms by denying the ability to purchase a firearm — all without due process.

    So don’t tell me that this is vile slander.  The NRA is proud of jamming this down our throats.  They had to be dragged kicking and screaming to support Heller.  They didn’t even do anything for Miller.  They currently support a bump stock ban.  They have done nothing to repeal the Gun Control Act of 1968 and the National Firearms Act of 1934.  The NRA is no friend of gun rights.

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  4. Phil Turmel Inactive
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):
    But even still the NRA brags that they helped institute the NICS background check system. The NRA cares nothing about the Constitution, except when it serves their lobbying interests.

    This is a vile slander against the NRA. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights don’t say we can never have our rights taken away — they say there must be a due process to take them away for cause. Generally known as felonies (and/or judgements of incompetence). States were holding up exercise of the 2A bureaucratically through long background checks looking for any cause, and making up causes along the way. The NICS is a federal system to force states to honor our 2A rights in a timely manner.

    The second amendment says “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.” You’re talking about rights being removed for cause, which requires due process. Due process means a court action and a chance to defend yourself. NICS is a prior restraint on exercising the right to keep and bear arms by denying the ability to purchase a firearm — all without due process.

    It is not infringement to make sure a purchaser has no previously adjudicated impediment to owning a firearm.  In exactly the same way voter registration boards are supposed to verify one’s eligibility.  The NICS is simply a database of felons (and incompetents) that short-circuits badly-behaved states’ attempts to drag out background checks.  Background checks that are clearly constitutional means to implement bans on felons owning guns.

    So don’t tell me that this is vile slander. The NRA is proud of jamming this down our throats. They had to be dragged kicking and screaming to support Heller. They didn’t even do anything for Miller. They currently support a bump stock ban. They have done nothing to repeal the Gun Control Act of 1968 and the National Firearms Act of 1934. The NRA is no friend of gun rights.

    I will repeat that it is a vile slander, because you are clearly applying an extremist interpretation of the constitution.  As for Heller, and the GCA, and the NFA, the NRA sometimes has tactical differences with other organizations.  But in the long term, they’ve been the staunchest and most effective advocate for the 2A we’ve had.  They’ve always supported long-term strategies to restore the 2A to its rightful place, but it can’t be done instantly, and has to include educating the public.  Overreach risks undoing decades of incremental success.

    I vehemently disagree with your slander of the NRA and your twisted, ahistorical reasoning.

     

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  5. Skyler Coolidge
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    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

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    It is not infringement to make sure a purchaser has no previously adjudicated impediment to owning a firearm. In exactly the same way voter registration boards are supposed to verify one’s eligibility. The NICS is simply a database of felons (and incompetents) that short-circuits badly-behaved states’ attempts to drag out background checks. Background checks that are clearly constitutional means to implement bans on felons owning guns.

    So don’t tell me that this is vile slander. The NRA is proud of jamming this down our throats. They had to be dragged kicking and screaming to support Heller. They didn’t even do anything for Miller. They currently support a bump stock ban. They have done nothing to repeal the Gun Control Act of 1968 and the National Firearms Act of 1934. The NRA is no friend of gun rights.

    I will repeat that it is a vile slander, because you are clearly applying an extremist interpretation of the constitution. As for Heller, and the GCA, and the NFA, the NRA sometimes has tactical differences with other organizations. But in the long term, they’ve been the staunchest and most effective advocate for the 2A we’ve had. They’ve always supported long-term strategies to restore the 2A to its rightful place, but it can’t be done instantly, and has to include educating the public. Overreach risks undoing decades of incremental success.

    I vehemently disagree with your slander of the NRA and your twisted, ahistorical reasoning.

    Well, you don’t seem to have a good grasp of history, then.  I am certainly extremist, but extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.

    How often has the database been in error?  How hard is it to be removed?  Are citizens informed of when they are placed on this database to allow them to dispute being included?  No.  It is prior restraint.

    And if you can mention anything the NRA has done of any substance to defend gun rights, I’ll be listening.  I’m sure they have done a few little things, but all the advances in restoring gun rights have been despite them rather than because of them.

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  6. TBA Coolidge
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    Far be it from me to get in the way of a good argument but if this ends up as a pistols-at-dawn deal it will only help the gun control people.

    You are both conservatives and both pro-gun. I imagine you both believe that not allowing felons to have guns is legitimately due process, however quick ‘n’ dirty it might be.

    You both agree that the NRA stands as a bulwark against liberals desires to get rid of that pesky gun ownership thing once and for all. One of you thinks they don’t/didn’t do enough, one of you thinks their porridge is justtttt right and mommy-state thinks guns are just too hot for you to handle.

    The sticking point seems to be that your name can appear on the no-buy list without your being aware of it until you pull out your credit card, yes?

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  7. Skyler Coolidge
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    TBA (View Comment):
    @skyler

    @philturmel

    Far be it from me to get in the way of a good argument but if this ends up as a pistols-at-dawn deal it will only help the gun control people.

    You are both conservatives and both pro-gun. I imagine you both believe that not allowing felons to have guns is legitimately due process, however quick ‘n’ dirty it might be.

    You both agree that the NRA stands as a bulwark against liberals desires to get rid of that pesky gun ownership thing once and for all. One of you thinks they don’t/didn’t do enough, one of you thinks their porridge is justtttt right and mommy-state thinks guns are just too hot for you to handle.

    The sticking point seems to be that your name can appear on the no-buy list without your being aware of it until you pull out your credit card, yes?

    I’ve never claimed the title of “conservative,” having never seen a consistent definition of what on Earth it means.

    I don’t believe that felons should in every case always have their gun rights forever terminated.  Not allowing felons to have guns is not due process, it is a result.  Due process is the means by which their rights are legitimately restricted.

    I do not agree that the NRA stands as a bulwark against liberal/progressive anything.  The NRA stands for itself, sucking up dupes’ money to buy off politicians and avoiding any fight to increase gun rights whenever possible.

    You last point is correct.  Our immediate sticking point is that before one’s name is on a list, you should have due process and a clear means to appeal the judgment.

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  8. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):
    @skyler

    @philturmel

    Far be it from me to get in the way of a good argument but if this ends up as a pistols-at-dawn deal it will only help the gun control people.

    You are both conservatives and both pro-gun. I imagine you both believe that not allowing felons to have guns is legitimately due process, however quick ‘n’ dirty it might be.

    You both agree that the NRA stands as a bulwark against liberals desires to get rid of that pesky gun ownership thing once and for all. One of you thinks they don’t/didn’t do enough, one of you thinks their porridge is justtttt right and mommy-state thinks guns are just too hot for you to handle.

    The sticking point seems to be that your name can appear on the no-buy list without your being aware of it until you pull out your credit card, yes?

    I’ve never claimed the title of “conservative,” having never seen a consistent definition of what on Earth it means.

    I don’t believe that felons should in every case always have their gun rights forever terminated. Not allowing felons to have guns is not due process, it is a result. Due process is the means by which their rights are legitimately restricted.

    I do not agree that the NRA stands as a bulwark against liberal/progressive anything. The NRA stands for itself, sucking up dupes’ money to buy off politicians and avoiding any fight to increase gun rights whenever possible.

    You last point is correct. Our immediate sticking point is that before one’s name is on a list, you should have due process and a clear means to appeal the judgment.

    @skyler, you’ve at least got me thinking. Thanks. I do think that many of the conservative institutions have got themselves into a defensive crouch over the years. This is natural. Trump shows us the way forward — at a minimum. He pushed right through the leftist “blue wall” and other former no go zones and found that the wall was already falling over due to rot — it’s very similar to the Berlin wall and the Soviet Union. Paper tigers — but only after enough time has gone on. The guards for many years were glad to shoot people and probably got commendations for doing so. During those years it’s hard to stand up as those 1989 protesters were able to do.

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