ACF #17: The Lives of Others

 

The best movie podcast devised by the mind of man is back! Our own Flagg Taylor and our common friend Carl Eric Scott join me for a discussion of the great movie The Lives of Others, which won the Oscar for foreign film in 2006. It’s about late Communism in East Germany, the secret police invading a playwright’s life, and the consequences thereof. Flagg and Carl of course are the authors of the best book on the movie, Totalitarianism on Screen.

Well, they co-edited and authored essays for the book — there are other authors from academia, including the great literature professor Paul Cantor (the best Shakespearean in our times), and former German president Joachim Gauck (also a theologian), who gave an extensive interview. So I’m honored and grateful to have them join me for this conversation and I hope you’ll enjoy it as well. Please share it online so that more people discover the movie!

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  1. Titus Techera Contributor
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    Glad you liked it–thanks for the kind words!

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  2. Flagg Taylor Member
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    Quinn the Eskimo (View Comment):
    I just listened to the podcast. There was something that I noticed but I didn’t hear it commented on. I can’t tell if it was because it was too obvious or too obscure. It was the sense that Wiesler himself, in the process of the story, becomes a playwright. In faking his surveillance reports, he is making up scenarios and dialogue. In that sense, he is a participant in the creation of art, though obviously not in the same way that Dreyman is.

    BINGO!! Yes, important point.

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  3. Quinn the Eskimo Member
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    Titus Techera (View Comment):
    Now, in the case of Wiesler, the political meaning of truth & lies or fact & fiction–what is it? He starts an enforcer for the regime. He delivers certain facts that mutilate the truth about the people he is involved with. & destroy those people, of course. When he stops delivering facts, he spares a life. He may think of himself as still enforcing for the regime–but against corrupt people who use it for private ends…

    I’d have to re-watch the movie.  It has been many years.  But these are men on contrasting paths.  One is an author of fiction who is working on a non-fiction piece about suicide.  The other is a man who writes reports about surveillance is who now creating fictional scenarios.  I’m not sure parallel is the correct word, but it is too striking (to me, anyway) to be purely coincidental.

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  4. Quinn the Eskimo Member
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    You are going to make me re-watch the movie to defend this point, aren’t you?  Well, it is more than worth re-watching.

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  5. The Reticulator Member
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    Quinn the Eskimo (View Comment):

    Titus Techera (View Comment):
    Now, in the case of Wiesler, the political meaning of truth & lies or fact & fiction–what is it? He starts an enforcer for the regime. He delivers certain facts that mutilate the truth about the people he is involved with. & destroy those people, of course. When he stops delivering facts, he spares a life. He may think of himself as still enforcing for the regime–but against corrupt people who use it for private ends…

    I’d have to re-watch the movie. It has been many years. But these are men on contrasting paths. One is an author of fiction who is working on a non-fiction piece about suicide. The other is a man who writes reports about surveillance is who now creating fictional scenarios. I’m not sure parallel is the correct word, but it is too striking (to me, anyway) to be purely coincidental.

    This reminds me that one of the specific things that bothered me after watching the director’s extras was the notion that listening to a piano piece could have been a key to turning the STASI surveillance agent and taming the savage beast.  That is an artistic conceit for which I doubt there is any evidence in real life. If on the other hand, such a thing could work, it would have to have been a Bach chorale that did it. :-)

    Like I said, I should have stopped after two watchings.

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