Question of the Day: Mi DACA Es Su DACA

 

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Last week, President Trump ordered an end to the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, better known as DACA, and gave Congress six months to pass a replacement. The Question of the Day: Will Congress pass DACA as it was under Obama, pass some form of DACA-lite, or pass nothing at all?

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  1. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    BD1 (View Comment):
    – Donald Trump plots immigration sellout with Chuck Schumer.

    Establicons: “We told you! We told you! He’s not conservative!”

    – Marco Rubio plots immigration sellout with Chuck Schumer.

    Establicons: “Marco Rubio for president!”

    Trump will sign something far worse than the Gang of Eight bill, and the Rubio haters will praise his pragmatic deal making skills.

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  2. Hang On Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    So what you are saying is that you hate your own side more than the Moral Enemy that will ruin the country and bring about 1000 years of Darkness! You sir need to report to the battle, and stop giving Democrats talking points. It is a binary choice it is wither support Mitch McConnell or Chuck Schumer, and if you support Schumer you just wanted Hillary to win.

    My own side? Do you have permanently sealed ears or is your brain not functioning?

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  3. Nick H Coolidge
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    In law school they often say that “hard cases make bad law.” What they mean is if you try to account for all the “hard cases”, the exceptions to the general rule or the cases with unique and special circumstances, when making a law, then the result will be worse than just a simple rule. The DREAMers are a example of a hard case. The simple rule is that people who break the law to come here don’t have any right to stay here. But the DREAMers didn’t break the law; their parents did. Letting them stay and have a path to legality is the right thing to do, but that risks encouraging more illegal immigration. There’s not an easy answer that will satisfy everyone.

    My prediction is that Congress will fail to get a bill passed in the first six months, and the one they eventually end up passing will be a complex mess that breaks as much as it fixes and passes as much of the buck as possible to the Executive branch. In other words, the same as every other bill Congress passes.

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  4. Hang On Member
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    Nick H (View Comment):
    The DREAMers are a example of a hard case. The simple rule is that people who break the law to come here don’t have any right to stay here. But the DREAMers didn’t break the law; their parents did.

    What are you talking about? They are here now illegally. They are breaking the law. What part of this do you simply not understand?

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  5. Arahant Member
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    Hang On (View Comment):
    My choice is to do nothing and let the ICE age begin.

    Too bad you’re not in Congress, eh?

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  6. Nick H Coolidge
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    Hang On (View Comment):
    What are you talking about? They are here now illegally. They are breaking the law. What part of this do you simply not understand?

    They were brought here illegally, but they themselves did not break the law. The crime is coming here without a visa or not leaving when a visa expires. Just being here is not breaking the law. Their status is the result of a law being broken, but it is their parents who committed the crime. That’s why I say these are “hard” cases. Oversimplifying it by lumping them in with the actual lawbreakers is not truly understanding the issue.

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  7. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    Nick H (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):
    What are you talking about? They are here now illegally. They are breaking the law. What part of this do you simply not understand?

    They were brought here illegally, but they themselves did not break the law. The crime is coming here without a visa or not leaving when a visa expires. Just being here is not breaking the law. Their status is the result of a law being broken, but it is their parents who committed the crime. That’s why I say these are “hard” cases. Oversimplifying it by lumping them in with the actual lawbreakers is not truly understanding the issue.

    Irrelevant. Intent is not a element of the crime. They’re there illegally.

    Lets say, instead of being illegal immigrants, the parents where bank robbers – they didnt hurt anyone, they just barge into a bank wave a gun around and run away with cash… Ok? Lets say they do this for a long time – maybe even years… Then they get caught… They have to give back all the money (or whats left of it) … but the liberals cry, the youngest needs braces, and the older one is off to college… Why should they suffer from the parents criminal acts? It was a (almost) victim-less crime nobody got hurt, the money was insured – no big deal … Let the kids keep the money!

    It doesnt matter who committed the crime – they have to give the money back. (aka citizenship/residency)

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  8. Doug Watt Member
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    I’m still wondering why we can’t get rid of Justin Bieber, not too mention Michael Moore. We need to tell Canada to take them back, or we’re giving them Chicago, and we’ll throw in Illinois as well.

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  9. Arahant Member
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):
    I’m still wondering why we can’t get rid of Justin Bieber, not to mention Michael Moore.

    Michael Moore is from Michigan, unfortunately.

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  10. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):
    I’m still wondering why we can’t get rid of Justin Bieber, not too mention Michael Moore. We need to tell Canada to take them back, or we’re giving them Chicago, and we’ll throw in Illinois as well.

    That’s not much of deal. Many believe that having won the war of 1812, those things should be ours anyway.

    ;) ((Is there a sarcasm emoji?))

    Justin Bieber is rich, he has a big house in California – they need him to pay the taxes.

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  11. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Congress will give some form of amnesty to the Dreamers.  There may be some concessions such as wall funding or everify given to make it palatable to the various bases that will be illusions since these things will never be funded or enforced.

    This will be the first step of another Reagan like grand bargain amnesty for all illegals process that will get us another group of immigration laws on the books that will be ignored for a few decades until we do this again.

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  12. Ekosj Member
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    Ekosj (View Comment):

    BD1 (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    Ann Coulter starts a guerrilla group up in the Hills.

    That sounds fun.

    In Trump we Trust baby!

    He’s no Marco Rubio.

    He certainly doesn’t talk the Rubio talk. But walk the Rubio walk, have a heart and play let’s make a deal? We’re going to find out.

    @bd1

    I guess we are finding out he’s much more Marco Rubio than youd’a thought.    Say hello to Little Donald.   Amnesty Don.

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