NAQ: The French Elections

 

There’s so much fast-breaking domestic news to follow (Flynn? Immunity?) and so many complex, major crises abroad, that you may be entirely forgiven for paying no attention whatsoever to the upcoming French elections. But if this were a more placid moment in history, you’d probably be hearing a lot more about France’s weird presidential campaign, actually one of the weirdest in French history.

So I’ve compiled this NAQ — a list of never-asked questions — to answer some of the questions you would have asked if this were a normal news year in which a French election could actually get anyone’s attention for more than a second.

Q. How does France work?

A. The president — who serves a five-year term — is directly elected by French citizens. (The term used to be seven years; it was reduced to five in 2002). The French Parliament is bicameral. The National Assembly has 577 members, who are elected directly by the citizens of their constituencies and serve a five-year term. The Senate has 348 members, who are elected for six years by the electoral college.

Q. Who’s in the electoral college?

A. One elected representative from each of metropolitan France’s 98 departments, plus eight from France’s other dependencies and twelve from the Assembly of French Citizens Abroad. 

Q. So when will the presidential elections be held?

A. The first round will take place on April 22, and the second round on May 6. In theory, if any candidate wins an absolute majority (50 percent of the vote plus at least one more vote) in the first round, he or she is immediately elected. In practice, this has never happened. (Charles de Gaulle came the closest, in 1965, with 44 percent in the first round.)

Q. Why does it seem as if the French are always voting?

A. Because first they vote in party primaries, using a two-round runoff system; then they use the same two-round runoff system to elect the President and the National Assembly. (Well, almost the same: in the National Assembly, any candidate who wins at least 12.5 percent of the registered party-members’ votes goes through to the runoff in a first-past-the-post vote.) They vote in lots of local elections, too. And they also vote for members of the European Parliament, using proportional voting, every five years. It adds up to a lot of headlines that say, “French voters go to the polls.”

Q. How do they vote for the Prime Minister?

A. They don’t, actually. The President appoints the Prime Minister, along with all the rest of the junior and senior ministers who comprise the government. But the government is responsible to Parliament, and the National Assembly has the power to fire the whole government, including the Prime Minister, and can do so with a simple majority vote. So in practice, this means the government will always be comprised of members of the majority political party (or coalition) in the National Assembly.

Q. Really? So how powerful is the President, in reality?

A. Very — if the President’s party controls parliament, too. Then he can pick whomever he wants for the government, and he’ll more or less be an elected king, constrained only by the judiciary. But if another party controls parliament, he’s a lot less powerful. He’ll be obliged to appoint a government that shares the agenda of the majority party, an arrangement known as cohabitation

Q. That means the legislative elections are just as important as the presidential elections, doesn’t it?

A. It sure does.

Q. When will those be held?

A. On June 11 and 18, after which the French will be utterly exhausted.

Q. If the legislative elections are so important, why don’t I ever hear about them?

A. Would you click on a story about French legislative elections? Neither would anyone else, so no one bothers writing about them. Anglophone readers are pretty much only interested in reading about French elections if the story involves Marine Le Pen, even though — owing to the two-round system — there’s no way she can be elected.

Q. But hold on, she’s the only politician in France I ever hear about. Why can’t she be elected? 

A. Because her ceiling is about 25 percent, and she’s utterly toxic to the rest of the electorate. Last time she ran, in 2012, she only took 18 percent of the vote. She’d need to triple that, almost, to win an outright majority. Let’s say the polls aren’t just off, but wildly off — let’s say she’s able to pull in as many votes in the first round as Charles de Gaulle. She still can’t win, because the rest of the electorate will unite to vote against her in the runoff.

The most recent polls show her and Emmanuel Macron winning the first round, taking 25 and 24 percent of the votes, respectively. Then they show Macron resoundingly beating her, with 62 percent of the vote, in the finals.

Typically, the French vote for the candidate they like best in the first round, then they eliminate the candidate they hate most in the second. So, for example, in 2002, Marine’s father, Jean-Marie Le Pen, managed to reach the second round. Voters from left and the right united, unhappily — but firmly — behind Jacques Chirac to keep Le Pen out of power.

Q. Why is Marine Le Pen so loathed by so much of the electorate? She just wants France to be France, right?

A. Okay, this is a complicated question. She’s the head of the National Front, which was founded by her father, Jean Marie Le Pen, in 1972. He never had any real aspiration to the presidency; he just liked being the head of a big protest movement.

One of the National Front’s progenitors, probably the most direct, was Action Française, which was founded in reaction to the intellectuals who defended Alfred Dreyfus. Its principal ideologist was the proto-fascist, anti-Protestant, and rabidly anti-Semitic Charles Maurras, whom Steve Bannon is said to admire, although I don’t find that claim particularly credible. Action Française was monarchist, counter-revolutionary (contra the French Revolution, that is), anti-democratic, illiberal (in the sense of “against liberty”), anti-internationalist, and ultra-statist. Maurras believed the interests of the state should be above those of the individual. For example, he endorsed Colonel Henry’s forgery blaming Dreyfus because he believed defending Dreyfus would weaken the French army and justice system; Dreyfus, he believed, should be sacrificed to the state’s interests. Despite being something of an agnostic himself, Maurras wanted to restore Roman Catholicism as the state religion. Action Française supported the Vichy Regime and Marshal Pétain. After the war, Maurras was arrested as a collaborator and sentenced to life imprisonment. Not a particularly attractive figure, in other words. There’s a lot of baggage, there.

So the National Front descends from them, as well as from the populist Poujadists, among whom were proto-nationalists such as Jean-Marie Le Pen. The party emerged against the background of the Algerian War (Jean Marie Le Pen was a paratrooper during the war, and many frontists were directly involved). Its members viewed the abandonment of Algeria by Charles de Gaulle as treason. More baggage.

It would take too long for me to explain all the details of the Le Pen family feud, but basically, think King Lear. Remember, Le Pen senior never really wanted to be president: He just wanted to be the head of the National Front. But Marine, to his surprise, discovered in herself a real lust for power. One sufficient that if the elder Le Pen were to die mysteriously, she’d be the first suspect.

She embarked on a campaign to “de-demonize” the National Front and distance it from some of its less attractive aspects, such as her father’s regular propensity to Holocaust denial. But Le Pen père is so jealous of her that every time it seems she’s about to get ahead — every single time — he opens up his big yap and reminds people why the National Front was demonized in the first place.

So basically, even though she’s expected to be one of the two candidates to make it through to the second round, she’s not going to win. Too many people loathe her, her party, its history, and everything it stands for.

Or, as this anonymous author who writes for AboutFrance.com puts it,

Will Marine Le Pen be the next French president?

Short answer: NO! It is virtually impossible! She is expected to be one of the two candidates to make it through to the second round, but with a 71% disapproval rating (a large part of which could be called an abhorrence rating), there is no way that she could beat the other candidate who makes it into the runoff. Unless….. No, there just isn’t an “unless.” A majority of French voters would vote for anyone, even for Mickey Mouse, if he were the sole alternative to a candidate from the Front National.  

UK Brexiteers who dream of the French electing a candidate who will implement a Frexit are just not in touch with the reality of the French political system, nor of the mindset of French voters. Marine Le Pen is not Donald Trump, nor is she Brexit. Trump managed to win because he was the candidate of the conservative Republican Party … not an outsider; and in the UK people voted for Brexit because it was championed by big shots from the Conservative party, not just by UKIP. Marine le Pen is a different case altogether: she does not have the support of any mainstream political party in France, except her own party the Front National.

Q. But this isn’t 2002. Voters are truly fed up with the establishment, as Brexit and Trump’s victories indicate. And the polls always seem to be wrong these days. 

A.  That’s for sure. In fact, the French are so fed up with the establishment that François Hollande will be the first incumbent president not to seek re-election since 1962, when France introduced universal suffrage. And if the first round goes, as expected, to Macron and Le Pen, neither candidate will come from one of France’s two traditional, mainstream parties — the Socialists (PS) and Les Républicains (who used to be called the UMP). So we’re apt to see a contest between two parties that have never been in power. Still, every single poll so far shows Macron routing her in the end. There’s really only one path by which she could make it to the presidency …

Q. I knew it! There’s a way it could happen. How? 

A. Indecision and abstention. The polls suggest that millions of voters remain undecided and almost half say they may change their minds. It’s the highest rate of indecision France has ever seen at this point in an election. And the electorate seems to hate all three of the main candidates, which could lead to unusually high rates of abstention in the final round.

Some groups are more likely to abstain than others: the young, ethnic minorities, and the unemployed. These groups would usually vote left, but might abstain instead of voting for Macron, who’s not really a leftist. If the left stays home in large numbers, Le Pen will benefit. Likewise, some on the right might prefer not to vote at all than to vote for Macron — who’s not a conservative, either — or for Le Pen, who’s toxic.

A poll by Cevifpof recently showed a high percentage of Le Pen supporters among groups with high abstention rates: For example, 52 percent of farmers said they wouldn’t vote at all; of those who said they would, 35 percent would vote Le Pen. But the Economist estimates that we’d need to see 60 percent abstention rates in both the first and second rounds to put her in power. Given that turnout in French presidential elections is usually about 80 percent — and that voter turnout has never been anywhere near as low as 40 percent — this seems awfully unlikely. 

Q. So what exactly happened to France’s traditional parties?

A. The socialists have pretty much devoured themselves. The party is bitterly divided between reformers and its old-school hard-left Brontosauruses. Hollande tried to please both wings and in doing so managed to infuriate them both, becoming the least popular president in French history. Then he held off, Hamlet-like, until December before deciding not to run for re-election. So the party had no time to unite around a new candidate until late January. Benoît Hamon only emerged as their candidate after the second round. The Socialists are the establishment, and France has had it with its establishment. Its liberal wing is rapidly defecting to Macron — and Hamon isn’t crazy enough for the really hard-left wing, who will probably go for Mélanchon.

Q. But what about Les Républicains? 

A. Penelopegate.

Q. Beg pardon?

Okay. During the primaries for Les Républicains, François Fillon — who was prime minister under Nicolas Sarkozy — surprised everyone by wiping the floor with his rivals, Nicolas Sarkozy and Alain Juppé. He claimed to be an ardent admirer of Margaret Thatcher and pledged to slash public sector jobs. He portrayed himself as the embodiment of a certain kind of French Catholic rectitude: very conservative, very traditional, and — unlike his opponents (both known for their corruption and their legal problems) — very upright. I didn’t happen to like him, because like Marine Le Pen, he’s too close to Putin and too hostile to the United States, but I could at least envision him as the next President of the Republic. So I figured that’s what he’d be.

Fillon sold himself as Mister Clean, even offering God himself as his character reference: “I will never go to extremes,” he promised, “because I am a Christian.” He wrote a whole chapter in his pre-election autobiography about his Catholic faith and how it distinguished him from the long line of corrupt politicians to which France has become bitterly accustomed. For conservative voters, he was obviously a credible alternative to Le Pen. He also claimed, with some plausibility, that he was the only candidate who could put together a coherent majority with which to govern after the legislative elections.

Then Penelopegate broke.

It seems that between 1986 and 2013, Fillon gave his wife a fake parliamentary job, for which she was paid 680,000 Euros out of public funds. His party pressured him for weeks to abandon his bid and let someone who could actually win it take his place, but he dramatically refused, even after he was formally charged.

Now the police are investigating the claim that he and his wife forged documents in an effort to justify the payments she received, and prosecutors are now extending the investigation to his children, who also appear to have received highly paid fake jobs from the state when they were still students. Last Tuesday, Penelope was formally charged with complicity in the abuse of public funds — and she was also charged in connection with a salary she received from a literary magazine owned by one of her husband’s billionaire friends, too. 

Needless to say, he’s plunged in the polls. Voters seem to feel personally betrayed by him in a way I haven’t seen before in France. His name just infuriates everyone I’ve spoken to about him. It’s a bit as if they married a man who wasn’t rich, wasn’t good-looking, and wasn’t charming, either, but at least, they thought, he’ll be faithful — and then they found him in bed with the babysitter. Last Saturday, protesters threw eggs at him.

So who’s going to win?

If the election took place today, it would be Emmanuel Macron, a former economy minister who’s never been elected to public office. He started his own party, called En Marche!, which means, “On the move!” or maybe, “Let’s roll!” and no one’s quite sure how he got this far, because he wasn’t expected to go anywhere. He’s a former investment banker who’s never run in an election — and he has no established party behind him, either. He’s closely associated with Hollande, who made him his protégé, first as an advisor, then as his economy minister. And he’s in a strange marriage with his high-school French teacher who’s 26 years older than him, and with whom he became involved when he was still in high school, which everyone tries to pretend isn’t relevant, but secretly thinks is really weird.

What does Macron stand for? 

Not being Le Pen and not being dogged by Penelopegate, mostly. And not being close to Putin. He believes traditional left-right distinction in politics are no longer relevant. Conventional wisdom is that he’ll siphon off voters who would usually vote for the Socialist Party. He proposes a reverse brain-drain policy to attract bankers and other businesses who may be obliged to leave London after Brexit and scientists who will lose funding under Trump to move to France. Recently, he’s received a slew of endorsements from Socialist Party heavyweights who see him as the only one, at this point, who can keep Le Pen out of power. They see their own candidate, Benoît Hamon, as too much of a risk. 

What’s wrong with Hamon?

No one’s happy with the way the French economy’s been working under Hollande, and he seems to want to double down on everything that hasn’t been working. In 2012, he walked out on Hollande’s cabinet to protest the government’s modestly pro-business turn. He favors a universal minimum income, which attracted a lot of attention and pushed him through the second round of the Socialist Party primaries, but he’s got the same problem as Le Pen, only in reverse: too many people here are seriously sick of the Socialists.

So it’s down to those three? 

Basically, yes, though technically there are eleven candidates in the race, support for whom could affect the outcome at the margins, so it’s important to keep an eye on them.

Who are they? 

A motley crew of commies, nuts, and misfits. Jean-Luc Mélenchon of La France insoumise, or Indomitable France, which includes the Communist Party, is the man who is somehow always in everyone’s photos of any given political protest or demonstration. It’s kind of a mystery and a miracle that he’s always in front and center no matter who took the photo or from what angle. His diet, he says, is largely based on quinoa. There’s Nathalie Arnaut of the fringe-Trotskyite Worker’s Struggle Party; François Asselineau of the Popular Republican Union (he quit the mainstream conservative UMP because he’s a passionate anti-American who deplores France’s alliance with the United States–French journalist Nicolas Hénin calls his party “the most pro-Putin party of France,” which is saying something); and Jacques Cheminade, of the Solidarity and Progress party, who is — believe it or not — a devotee of Lyndon LaRouche. (The FBI described him as “a foreign spy in the service of LaRouche.”) He represents, he says, the struggle against the “financial occupation” of Wall Street, the City of London, Brussels, and the IMF. There’s Nicolas Dupont-Aignan, of Debout la France! or France Arise!, who believes himself to be the heir to Charles de Gaulle and otherwise has difficulty disambiguating his brand from the Le Pens’ (he’s against the Euro, thinks Brussels has stolen France’s sovereignty, and wants stricter control on immigration). There’s Jean Lassalle of Resist! He seems like a nice man. From a family of sheepherders in a tiny French village. I don’t quite know what he believes, politically, but he once went on a 39-day hunger strike to resist the closing of a factory. And finally, there’s Philippe Poutou, of the New Anti-Capitalist party, best known for Tweeting, “#KimKardashian 9 million euros of jewelry in her room? The redistribution of wealth is an emergency.” 

I see. That doesn’t sound promising. Well, who’s going to win the legislative elections?

No one knows. The National Front is hoping to win many MPs, and they might. The Republicains could rebound after they get over Fillon, probably after he’s eliminated in the first round. The Socialists run the real risk of becoming irrelevant — no one even knows who’d lead the party after Hamon’s eliminated. There’s no established En Marche! party machine, no grassroots, and no one’s quite sure what it stands for.

So if Macron wins, he’ll follow the lead of the party that takes the most seats, meaning he could be quite left-leaning or quite right leaning. He might have to cohabit with the Républicains, who might be willing to cooperate on some issues with the FN.

Or there could be chaos. It seems quite unlikely En Marche! could get an outright majority. So really, apart from being sure Le Pen won’t win, I’m not sure what kind of government France is apt to have, and neither is anyone else. 

Any more questions? Live from Paris, I’ll be in France all day to answer them.

 

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  1. Kozak Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: Still, every single poll so far shows Macron routing her in the end. There’s really only one path by which she could make it to the presidency …

    Or if the Jihadi’s get super stupid and pull off a major atrocity between the votes…..

    Right, I predict a false flag by Putin.

    No they have been plenty active in France. Whats the body count, over 200 in the last year or so?

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  2. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    OK, that’s an interesting bit of information about the elected officials. But what about the administrative state, which is the real government in western democracies these days? Our elected governments are becoming mere figureheads on the order of the British monarchy. Or is it different in France? Does the elected government retain any influence over the real government?

    This is a very significant issue. Fillon campaigned on the promise of cutting 500,000 civil service jobs, and he would have very likely won on the basis of that promise, had he not been revealed to be a crook. The French state is huge: although formally the government renounced dirigisme in 1983 and largely retreated from economic intervention, many of its traits remain, and the government still plays a massive role in the economy. Government spending was 56 percent of GDP in 2014. (Sorry, I can’t seem to find the most recent figures, but doubt they’re much lower or higher.) That’s the second-highest in the European Union. For contrast, the US figure in the same year was 38.3.

    One thing I will say is that if you have to have a hugely powerful administrative state, France’s bureaucrats are the ones you want running it. The country seems to me extremely well-run — much better than I’d expect, given the huge role of the state. One reason for that, perhaps, is that working in the administrative sector holds a great deal of prestige, and it attracts a lot of the country’s top talent, unlike ours.

    France definitely does not feel like a socialist hellhole: It has the world’s sixth-largest economy in nominal figures and the tenth-largest in PPP figures. It has the second-largest economy in Europe (with Germany number one). It ranks 4th in number of  Fortune Global 500 companies (behind the US, China, and Japan) Its overall score on Freedom House’s  index of economic freedom is 63.3, which isn’t all that far down from the US, at 75.1 percent. And France even scores higher than the US on “protection of property rights.” (France, 85, US, 81.3). Given the size of the state sector, this is astonishing and counter-intuitive, and it really makes you wonder what this country could do if they reduced the size of the state — or even (heresy, I know) whether they need to reduce it, since it seems not to impede the country anywhere near as much as you’d expect.

    My dealings with the French bureaucracy have overall been pretty positive: I usually find that the bureaucrats are educated, polite people who genuinely want to help — although it’s true that the country runs on paperwork, and they can be very rigid about needing exactly the right kind.

    But the better question is how much power the elected government has over the unions, who really do have a crazy amount of power — and who are unelected, undemocratic, and a massive drain on productivity. That’s another reason people are crushed by Fillon’s self-destruction. They really wanted someone to try to take them on. Many people are sick of having their lives interrupted by pointless strikes. But I don’t see that as apt to happen anytime soon; it’s just too deep a part of French culture.

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  3. The Reticulator Member
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    Claire Berlinski, Ed. (View Comment):
    But the better question is how much power the elected government has over the unions, who really do have a crazy amount of power — and who are unelected, undemocratic, and a massive drain on productivity. That’s another reason people are crushed by Fillon’s self-destruction. They really wanted someone to try to take them on. Many people are sick of having their lives interrupted by pointless strikes. But I don’t see that as apt to happen anytime soon; it’s just too deep a part of French culture.

    Thanks for the detailed answer. One other question is whether the administrative government is tight with the unions, or pretty much a separate thing.  Are the civil service workers unionized? (That last is a separate question.)

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  4. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: Still, every single poll so far shows Macron routing her in the end. There’s really only one path by which she could make it to the presidency …

    Or if the Jihadi’s get super stupid and pull off a major atrocity between the votes…..

    Right, I predict a false flag by Putin.

    No they have been plenty active in France. Whats the body count, over 200 in the last year or so?

    234 in the past 18 months. France has suffered from an unusually high level of terrorism for a long time, actually. This is from Wikipedia, so take it with the usual caveats, but it’s all correct as far as I can recall:

    France has a lengthy history of terrorist attacks carried out by a variety of groups from the extreme right, extreme left, extreme Basque, Breton and Corsican nationalists, Algerian insurgent groups and Islamist extremists.[1] Most of the attacks have been bombings utilising improvised explosive devices (IEDs). Anarchists carried out a series of bombings and assassination attempts in the 19th century. A number of attacks associated with the Algerian War took place in the 1950s and 1960s, including the deadliest terrorist attack in France in the 20th century, the 1961 Vitry-Le-François train bombing carried out by the pro-colonialist French nationalist Organisation armée secrète. Various Middle Eastern factions carried out shootings and bombings in the 1970s and 1980s, principally in Paris, while during the Algerian Civil War of the 1990s, insurgents from the Armed Islamic Group carried out a series of major attacks against the Paris public transport system. Nationalist extremists from the Basque, Breton and Corsican communities carried out a number of assassinations and targeted bomb attacks in the 1990s and 2000s. Islamist extremists have carried out numerous attacks in the 2010s, of which the November 2015 Paris attacks have been the bloodiest to date.

    Although 2015 has been the deadliest year so far in terms of fatalities caused by terrorist attacks, the number of attacks in previous years has been far higher. The highest number of attacks recorded in a single year was 270 in 1996, while the last year without any recorded terrorist attacks was 1971.[2]Outside France, the worst terrorist attack in terms of the number of French victims was the 19 September 1989 bombing of UTA Flight 772 over Niger, in which 170 people died, 54 of them French citizens.[4]

    And if you go to the Wikipedia page, you can see every attack listed. The 1996 bombing campaign was really frightening because they were targeting the metro. It’s amazing more people weren’t killed, actually.

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  5. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Member
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    genferei (View Comment):
    Only 328 of the 348 senators are elected by the electoral college, I believe.

    By whom are the others elected? I didn’t know that and I can’t find an explanation of it.

    This is their own explanation of how they work, which doesn’t say that unless I’m misunderstanding it? (I may be.)

    It says that they’re elected by “proportional representation in the 39 metropolitan and overseas départements which fill four or more senatorial seats,” and, “The 12 senators who represent French citizens living abroad are elected under a system of proportional representation by the 150 elected members of the Assembly of French Citizens Resident Abroad.” But it says that they’re all

    elected by indirect universal suffrage. This means that they are chosen by an electoral college in each département which is composed of

    • Members of the National Assembly for the département and members of the département’s General Council as well as the more extensively sited Regional Council.
    • Delegates from municipal councils who in fact account for 95 per cent of the members of the electoral colleges.

    This means that the Senators are principally elected by municipal councillors. The number of delegates varies according to the population of the municipalities.

     

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  6. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    . One other question is whether the administrative government is tight with the unions, or pretty much a separate thing.

    They certainly speak and negotiate often, if that’s what you mean. They’re a separate thing in so far as they’re institutionally different and see their interests differently, but if you don’t have a relationship with them and if you can’t negotiate with them effectively, you can’t run France. The New York Times accurately described a French strike as “a carefully choreographed dance between labor, government and the public.” (That’s a pretty good article.)

    Are the civil service workers unionized? (That last is a separate question.)

    Oh, yes. Although they’re not always unreasonable; they accepted, for example, a six-year pay freeze, which was only just lifted last year, and only lifted a small amount.

    One of the advantages of being in the EU is that it gives governments cover for doing what they want and need to do anyway — they can say, “We can’t raise wages because the EU is forcing us to cut the public deficit to 3.3 percent of economic output, our hands are tied.”

    The problem with that is that people end up blaming the EU, rather than accepting the underlying logic; to wit, that France will have no fiscal credibility if it doesn’t control deficit spending. Politicians always prefer to blame someone or something else if they can — as opposed to doing doing the hard work of explaining how the economy works to voters and really winning them around on the strength of their ideas. (This is one reason I admired Thatcher so much: She had a unique ability to explain the economic ideas behind her government’s decisions in a way voters could understand, without talking down to them.)

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  7. genferei Member
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    Great answers, Claire.

    While you’re looking at the underlying causes of the current moment, please be open to the possibility that the great instituions of the post-war liberal democratic order have succumbed to (fatal?) mission-creep. Those on the inside saw what was happening, and if not agreeing with every step were at least complicit in it. But for the masses it wasn’t until much later that they noticed – were enabled to notice – that they were ensnared in a project(s) they felt they had never been consulted on.

    Remember, when the Treaty of Rome talks of “ever closer union” it is talking of the peoples of Europe, not the governments. What happened was the opposite.

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  8. Gumby Mark Coolidge
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    Claire, very informative piece and good discussion.  More like this, please!

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  9. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Member
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    Gumby Mark (View Comment):
    Claire, very informative piece and good discussion. More like this, please!

    Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for letting me know.

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  10. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Just now read this and I would pay money to see the movie version.  I now no longer think we have problems in the US.  Hillary would even come out ahead over there….hmmm – there’s a thought.  Opening up his big yap is a problem we have here I will admit.  But after reading this, I wouldn’t be surprised if the public are dusting off the guillotines stashed in the basement.  My money is on the sheepherder – thank you for this most interesting update – it’s worth printing out and keeping for history is unfolding across the world and this is a little piece of it.

    On another note, Claire, you have been in France for quite some time. It seems it’s a toss up between weirdos who side with US and weirdos who side with Putin.  What do you think the average person wants there? Is there an average person? The French winos that you are friends with might be it!

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  11. genferei Member
    genferei
    @genferei

    Paul Graham, of Y Combinator, has been in Paris over the last few days. He sees lots of positive energy (in the startup scene?), especially at 42. (See his twitter feed @paulg).

    He’s delusional, but @claire might want to know that related stories will be suddenly in massive demand in SV and beyond.

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  12. BD1 Member
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    @

    “Germany hides behind EU for cheap Russian Nat gas, putting future Ukraine Nat gas supply at risk-Nord Stream 2.”

    What would we do, without the EU.  And Angela Merkel.

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  13. The Reticulator Member
    The Reticulator
    @TheReticulator

    genferei (View Comment):
    Paul Graham, of Y Combinator, has been in Paris over the last few days. He sees lots of positive energy (in the startup scene?), especially at 42. (See his twitter feed @paulg).

    He’s delusional, but @claire might want to know that related stories will be suddenly in massive demand in SV and beyond.

    You provoked me to find Paul Graham’s wikipedia page. Now I know a little about him. (I like his hierarchy of disagreement.) But what are “42” and “SV”?

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  14. Kozak Member
    Kozak
    @Kozak

    Claire Berlinski, Ed. (View Comment):
    And if you go to the Wikipedia page, you can see every attack listed. The 1996 bombing campaign was really frightening because they were targeting the metro. It’s amazing more people weren’t killed, actually.

    Well, now all you need is someone who is  motivated  and a good size 4×4 ala Parliament bridge…  that’s a terrifying thought.

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  15. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Member
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.
    @Claire

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    On another note, Claire, you have been in France for quite some time. It seems it’s a toss up between weirdos who side with US and weirdos who side with Putin. What do you think the average person wants there? Is there an average person? The French winos that you are friends with might be it!

    I’d say the “average person” is basically much more warmly disposed toward the United States. After all, there’s lots of cultural contact. Most people here have either visited the US, or want to, one day; they watch our movies and our television; our tourists come here all the time, and we’re very nice tourists who are polite, friendly, and good tippers.* Not that many will have visited Russia, and Russian tourists tend not to be the best advertisement for their country.

    But a significant portion — as reflected by the candidates — think it’s bad for France to be too dependent on the US or to imitate it too much. They see the US as a country of unfettered, heartless capitalism (I can usually surprise them with statistics about the portion of our GDP that goes toward welfare spending: some believe we just let our sick die in the streets, and so forth) and also of a lack of healthy discipline — we wear yoga pants in public; we eat at strange times of the day; we all overdose on heroin, and so forth. Although few would say it directly, it seems pretty clear to me that quite a few have never adjusted to the loss of France’s status as a great imperial power, so there’s been some envy of that. But basically the pro-Putin wing is either hard-right or hard-left or some other non-mainstream ideology; and the reason for that is pretty obvious: Putin funds these groups.

    *It’s very rare to tip in France — the service charge is included in the bill in restaurants. So if you leave a 15-20 percent tip, as Americans usually do, you’re seen as slightly foolish, but really likeable.

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  16. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Member
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.
    @Claire

    Kozak (View Comment):
    Well, now all you need is someone who is motivated and a good size 4×4 ala Parliament bridge… that’s a terrifying thought.

    I walk down the street sometimes and think that everything around me is a soft target. And it is. There will be more terrorism here sooner or later. If you look at that list of terrorist attacks over the past century in Paris, you can see that it’s simply not realistic to think otherwise; it’s a city that people seem to like to bomb. But I don’t really worry about it. Airplanes crash, cars crash, people die (at surprisingly high rates) in bathtub accidents. The odds that any one of us will be a victim of terrorism are so small that they’re effectively zero. This is not to say that I’m completely free of  neurotic worrying about things that are out of my control — not at all, in fact — but my neurotic worries tend to be more self-focused and hypochondriacal.

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  17. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Member
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.
    @Claire

    genferei (View Comment):
    please be open to the possibility that the great instituions of the post-war liberal democratic order have succumbed to (fatal?) mission-creep.

    Of course I’m open to it. Or mission-incompetence, in the case of the IMF, for example …

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  18. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Member
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.
    @Claire

    genferei (View Comment):
    Paul Graham, of Y Combinator, has been in Paris over the last few days. He sees lots of positive energy (in the startup scene?), especially at 42. (See his twitter feed @paulg).

    He’s delusional, but @claire might want to know that related stories will be suddenly in massive demand in SV and beyond.

    I don’t think he’s delusional. I see a lot of entrepreneurial energy too, especially these days in SMEs. There’s a new gym that just opened up a couple of blocks from me; I just had a look at it, and I thought, “They’re going to do really well.” It’s part of a chain — do you know it? — called “Keep Cool.” I was really impressed by some of their ideas; I bet Americans would really like having this kind of gym in their neighborhoods. The concept is “gym without all the things that annoy people about gyms.” They don’t have mirrors on the wall, they request that people not dress “provocatively,” they don’t play loud music, and — this is the clever detail — they have rooms where you can take 300 different tailored classes from video instructors, so you can pretty much take any kind of class at any time of day — spinning, yoga, abs, whatever. They update the videos regularly. It’s surprisingly inexpensive, I guess due to low labor costs — they just need one guy at the desk; they’ve replaced all the other employees with videos. I see a lot of this sort of thing: small and medium-size startups, based on good ideas, executed competently. I do think the French are more pessimistic than they need to be.

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  19. James Gawron Inactive
    James Gawron
    @JamesGawron

    Claire Berlinski, Ed. (View Comment):
    The president has the power to promulgate laws, veto them, send them back to Parliament, or refer them to the Constitutional Council; he can dissolve the National Assembly; he can put treaties or constitutional changes to a popular referendum; he can dismiss ministers, name officials (with the cabinet’s consent); name members of the Constitutional Council; and grant pardons.

    The more typical complaint isn’t that the president is hamstrung, but that he’s too powerful. People say this is the legacy of Charles de Gaulle, who designed the presidential role with himself in mind — a role for a larger-than-life, almost monarchical personality. There are sometimes calls for a Sixth Republic that enhances Parliament’s powers.

    Claire,

    Dissolve the National Assembly!! This sounds like King Charles just before the English Civil War a monarchical personality indeed! How often has this happened and under what circumstances?

    Regards,

    Jim

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  20. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Member
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.
    @Claire

    James Gawron (View Comment):
    Dissolve the National Assembly!! This sounds like King Charles just before the English Civil War a monarchical personality indeed! How often has this happened and under what circumstances?

    Well, if he dissolves it, he’s thereby calling for new elections. He can’t dissolve it more than once a year — if he’s done it in the past twelve months, in other words, he can’t keep trying to get a better electorate. It hasn’t happened (if I’m not mistaken) since the presidential term was reduced to five years, because now the President and the Assembly are elected within months of each other, meaning the President’s party is usually the majority in the Assembly.

    Before, the Assembly would usually be dissolved if things had degenerated into a complete stalemate. The last time, I think, was when Chirac dissolved it in 1997. Alain Juppé was the prime minister but he was deeply unpopular and having trouble maintaining party discipline. It backfired: the country was unamused, and voted in the opposition.

    Also, don’t forget that the Assembly can dissolve the government, too. Although they’ve only tried to do this once, under Charles de Gaulle, which automatically forced then-Prime Minister Pompidou to resign. De Gaulle in turn dissolved the Assembly, which provoked new elections, after which de Gaulle put Pompidou right back in power.

    They’re generally quite sober and responsible about not over-exercising these privileges. Party discipline tends to be excellent. Remember, the Fifth Republic was a reaction to the Fourth Republic, which was so paralyzed that it couldn’t confront the challenges that arose from decolonization. In 1958, the President of the Fourth Republic, René Coty, called on General de Gaulle (who had retired from public life) because he was facing an uprising in Algeria and the very real threat of a coup d’état. So the Fifth Republic was designed, deliberately, to give the Presidency more power than you’d usually have in a parliamentary system — that’s why his election is by direct, universal suffrage, and why he’s pre-eminent in foreign and national policy, except during periods of cohabitation. He’s supposed to be a bit monarchical.

    The Fifth Republic reduced the prerogatives of the parliament because all they seemed to be able to do was bicker — to the point that the generals were about to step in. And it worked: the heightened prestige and centrality of the executive allowed France to weather quite a few serious crises after that while remaining (along with the Third Republic) one of the most stable systems in French constitutional history.

    From time to time, people wonder out loud whether the Gaullist order is outdated, and perhaps at the heart of France’s perennial disgruntlement — if it’s just no longer possible (or desirable) to find someone who can play that role. But there’s no appetite for changing that here. Since 1789, France has had 15 constitutional orders, all but one of which followed a popular uprising, a war, or a coup. No one in France fancies going through any of that right now.

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  21. James Gawron Inactive
    James Gawron
    @JamesGawron

    Claire Berlinski, Ed. (View Comment):
    Also, don’t forget that the Assembly can dissolve the government, too. Although they’ve only tried to do this once, under Charles de Gaulle, which automatically forced then-Prime Minister Pompidou to resign. De Gaulle in turn dissolved the Assembly, which provoked new elections, after which de Gaulle put Pompidou right back in power.

    Claire Berlinski, Ed. (View Comment):
    Since 1789, France has had 15 constitutional orders, all but one of which followed a popular uprising, a war, or a coup. No one in France fancies going through any of that right now.

    Claire,

    Are you sure the French don’t just enjoy a new constitutional order now and again?

    Regards,

    Jim

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  22. genferei Member
    genferei
    @genferei

    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    But what are “42” and “SV”?

    “42” is STARTUP42. “SV” is Silicon Valley.

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