Republican Elector Won’t Vote for Trump

 
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Texas elector and firefighter Christopher Suprun.

Following Donald Trump’s electoral upset over Hillary Clinton, and his lack of securing the popular vote, there’s been a lot of talk about “faithless electors.” These are members of the Electoral College who refuse to vote for their state’s chosen candidate, and in 2016 the left has worked hard to shake the faith among pro-Trump electors.

In American history there have only been 157 faithless electors, only half of whom changed their minds on personal initiative (the others resulted from a candidate dying before taking office or abstentions.) None of these renegades have changed the course of a presidential election. Could this year be the first?

Republican Texas elector Christopher Suprun took to the opinion pages of the New York Times to announce he will not cast his vote for Donald Trump:

I have poured countless hours into serving the party of Lincoln and electing its candidates. I will pour many more into being more faithful to my party than some in its leadership. But I owe no debt to a party. I owe a debt to my children to leave them a nation they can trust.

Mr. Trump lacks the foreign policy experience and demeanor needed to be commander in chief. During the campaign more than 50 Republican former national security officials and foreign policy experts co-signed a letter opposing him. In their words, “he would be a dangerous president.” During the campaign Mr. Trump even said Russia should hack Hillary Clinton’s emails. This encouragement of an illegal act has troubled many members of Congress and troubles me.

Hamilton also reminded us that a president cannot be a demagogue. Mr. Trump urged violence against protesters at his rallies during the campaign. He speaks of retribution against his critics. He has surrounded himself with advisers such as Stephen K. Bannon, who claims to be a Leninist and lauds villains and their thirst for power, including Darth Vader. “Rogue One,” the latest “Star Wars” installment, arrives later this month. I am not taking my children to see it to celebrate evil, but to show them that light can overcome it.

…The election of the next president is not yet a done deal. Electors of conscience can still do the right thing for the good of the country. Presidential electors have the legal right and a constitutional duty to vote their conscience. I believe electors should unify behind a Republican alternative, an honorable and qualified man or woman such as Gov. John Kasich of Ohio. I pray my fellow electors will do their job and join with me in discovering who that person should be.

Fifteen years ago, I swore an oath to defend my country and Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. On Dec. 19, I will do it again.

Many states place restrictions on electors from going rogue. But independent-minded Texas has no laws binding them to the will of their voters. Two questions: 1) Do you agree with Suprun’s decision, and 2) should he should face consequences?

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  1. Kozak Member
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    TKC1101:I am wondering how long this guy plans to live in Texas.

    He’ll be a hero in Austin.

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  2. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    The King Prawn:

    Bryan G. Stephens: conservatives who place their conservatism before the good of America

    We equate the two actually.

    It is a problem to equate the good of one’s ideology with the good of one’s country.

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  3. TempTime Member
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    rico:

    Kozak:

    TKC1101:

    Bob Thompson: I gather from this statement that you do not support something like Suprun’s campaign to change the outcome of the election as reported after votes were counted on Nov.8.

    I see it not as a principled stand but an exercise in 15 minutes of fame. He should just resign if he cannot fulfill his duty to Texas. He is not all hat and no cattle, he is merely the stuff left after the cattle roam by.

    And he has interesting friends….chris-suprun-van-jones

    Notice Board of Directors of Megaphone Strategies.

    van-jones-board-megaphonestrategies-1260x881

    Its clients include: Netroots Nation, Green for All and Demand Progress.

    Gotta love the name of the outfit: Megaphone Strategies.

    Who vetted this guy?  Sounds like he was an infil-trator from the get-go.  That, or perhaps he is getting squeezed by the former prisoner and company; if so, I wonder what they know about him that we don’t know.  Maybe working-over State Electors is one of the tactics the apparatchiks developed during the recent meetings with Soros in Washington.  No matter, whatever the outcome of this, he is likely soiled for a good long time.

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  4. goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    Bob Thompson: I doubt this scoundrel will be a Texas republican much longer.

    Don’t mess with Texas!!!

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  5. goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    Seawriter: If he had been honest he would not have been elected as an elector. Having been elected to the position of Presidential Elector and signing a pledge to vote for that nominee, going back on his word of honor.

    Don’t mess with Texas!!!!

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  6. Sabrdance Member
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    Christian Speicher:

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.:

    Republican Texas elector Christopher Suprun took to the opinion pages of the New York Times to announce he will not cast his vote for Donald Trump:

    He has surrounded himself with advisers such as Stephen K. Bannon, who claims to be a Leninist and lauds villains and their thirst for power, including Darth Vader.

    [emphasis mine]

    I think we should not discount the possibility that this poor soul (Suprun) simply went completely nuts or was not the brightest bulb to begin with.

    It worries me quite a bit that the Texan Republican party has put up such a nut job.

    How was it again with the stupid and the evil party?

    I read that interview, and when I see this quote, I am reminded of this cartoon,

    Good Gods, they can teach you to detect evil, but not sarcasm?

    When people talk about the hyperliteralism of the media, this is what they have in mind.

     

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  7. rico Inactive
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    TempTime: he is likely soiled for a good long time.

    …as is his subversive campaign. His “shocking” decision to stand against Trump is now revealed to be a “dog bites man” story: Leftist elector stands against Trump!

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  8. goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    Bryan G. Stephens: This last line really spells out what you really are about: Being against Trump.

    Well duh!! Trump could walk across the Hudson River, and this guy would criticize him because he couldn’t swim.

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  9. Matt White Member
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    Paul Kingsbery:

    Seawriter:

    Fred Cole:

    Shouldn’t the man exercise is conscience? Does one exercising their conscience make them “scum”?

    Being an elector is a volunteer position. He was not drafted. He signed up to be an elector knowing Trump was the Republican nominee and Trump had about a 100% chance of winning the state. If his conscience could not bear with him voting for Trump ethics dictates he should not have volunteered to be an elector.

    How would I describe someone behaving unethically in a way that disenfranchises the millions of Texas voters who voted for Trump? Scum does not seem too extreme a term.

    Defending unethical behavior on the grounds of conscience seems a foolish hill to choose to die holding.

    Seawriter

    You continue to make up rules for how electors should conduct themselves that have no basis in Constitutional text.

    Ethics are not defined by the constitution.

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  10. Fred Cole Inactive
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    goldwaterwoman:

    And there are a lot of Trump supporters who are tired of the constant criticism and efforts to delegitimize his election. We expect it from Clinton supporters, not from Republicans.

    You’re tired of the criticism? He isn’t even president yet. I fear you’re in for a long four years.

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  11. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Fred Cole:

    goldwaterwoman:

    And there are a lot of Trump supporters who are tired of the constant criticism and efforts to delegitimize his election. We expect it from Clinton supporters, not from Republicans.

    You’re tired of the criticism? He isn’t even president yet. I fear you’re in for a long four years.

    You plan to delegitimize the election for the next 4 years?

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  12. The Reticulator Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens:

    Fred Cole:

    goldwaterwoman:

    And there are a lot of Trump supporters who are tired of the constant criticism and efforts to delegitimize his election. We expect it from Clinton supporters, not from Republicans.

    You’re tired of the criticism? He isn’t even president yet. I fear you’re in for a long four years.

    You plan to delegitimize the election for the next 4 years?

    It’ll be something like birthirism: Banned on Ricochet.

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  13. Seawriter Contributor
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    @lazymillennial‘s comment on this thread got quoted in Wednesday’s Three Martini Lunch.

    Seawriter

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  14. Lazy_Millennial Inactive
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    Seawriter:@lazymillennial‘s comment on this thread got quoted in Wednesday’s Three Martini Lunch.

    Seawriter

    @seawriter thanks for the heads up. I reposted it on yesterday’s Three Martini Lunch

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  15. James Of England Inactive
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    The King Prawn:Stop and ask yourselves if you would be this upset if a Democrat elector had qualms about casting a vote for Hillary. If the fire drains from your blood then the integrity of the system is not your concern. Heck, we could actually see EC votes cast for Sanders when the Senate President opens the certificates and counts the votes. This singular protest vote from a Republican elector could actually result in a reduction of her EC vote total, and wouldn’t that be sweet?

    This guy isn’t going to impact the result. I would be just as upset if he were going the other way. His poison is primarily sickening the Constitutional arrangement and democracy rather than any partisan issue.

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  16. Bob Thompson Member
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    James Of England:

    The King Prawn:Stop and ask yourselves if you would be this upset if a Democrat elector had qualms about casting a vote for Hillary. If the fire drains from your blood then the integrity of the system is not your concern. Heck, we could actually see EC votes cast for Sanders when the Senate President opens the certificates and counts the votes. This singular protest vote from a Republican elector could actually result in a reduction of her EC vote total, and wouldn’t that be sweet?

    This guy isn’t going to impact the result. I would be just as upset if he were going the other way. His poison is primarily sickening the Constitutional arrangement and democracy rather than any partisan issue.

    Yes, this is what happens when people place themselves into situations where they should not be then lose their sense of what they are doing and lose their grip entirely.

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