For Her Lies Only

 

Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.  I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”     

Trump’s latest statement on the subject of Hillary’s missing emails elicited little more from me than the standard eye-roll that greets much of his more off-the-cuff and “un-presidential” blustering.  The response from the Clinton camp, however, made me sit up and take notice:    

This has to be the first time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent.  That’s not hyperbole, those are just the facts.  This has gone from being a matter of curiosity, and a matter of politics, to being a national security issue.”  (emphasis mine)     

But wait  . . . those 30,000 missing emails, the only ones which Trump has expressed an interest in getting unearthed by any means, have been dismissed on more than one occasion by Herself, thusly:     

In going through the emails, there were over 60,000 in total, sent and received. About half were work-related and went to State Department, and about half were personal that were not in any way related to my work. . . . At the end, I chose not to keep my private, personal emails. Emails about planning Chelsea’s wedding or my mother’s funeral arrangements. Condolence notes to friends, as well as yoga routines, family vacations: the other things you typically find in inboxes.  No one wants their personal emails made public, and I think most people understand that and respect that privacy.”     

Certainly, the unearthing and publishing of someone’s most personal correspondence would be an invasion of privacy, but Hillary didn’t rail about a potential invasion of privacy.  She threw out terms like “espionage” and “national security issue” in response to a call for discovery of documents she previously dismissed as being so completely innocuous that she could imperiously choose to delete them herself, sans oversight.    So I’m having trouble understanding just how those same “personal” documents could possibly affect “national security” now.     

Unless, of course, she’s finally admitting that a lot more might have gone missing in that preemptive data dump than condolence notes, wedding plans and yoga routines.

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  1. Max Ledoux Coolidge
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    Richard O'Shea:I think this the first time since Johnson was in office that dems are concerned about the Russians.

    Mitt was roundly mocked in 2012 by all Democrats….

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  2. Locke On Member
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    derek:

    https://youtu.be/lXk4E_LS33Q

    This is a news clip where the voicemail hacks are discussed. The glee is barely contained.

    Holy [CoC], I thought that comment above was a joke!  (Been off the net most of the day.)  Bust a gut laughing!

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  3. HVTs Inactive
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    derek: Power is slipping from her fingers. Expect the unexpected. It is going to be a show.

    If Team Trump is thinking clearly, they should be gaming out Hill & Bill’s next three moves down the chess board right now.  Their hoped for ‘shock attack’ about treason won’t grow legs.  So next they’ll replay the race/gender/ethnicity card . . . a stalling action while they regroup.  They already have a strategic reserve . . . some series of pseudo-twists on long-past Trump scandals they think will revive old wounds and cause Trump to overreact.  Trump needs to be ready for it and not react except blandly and lightheartedly, as in “there you go again.”  Clinton’s team is trying to figure out if it’s too early to blow their reserve now, when it might be even more valuable in two to three months.  Ah yes, when to commit your reserves . . . something the Russians learned a thing or two about in 41-45.

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  4. RightAngles Member
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    Locke On:

    derek:

    https://youtu.be/lXk4E_LS33Q

    This is a news clip where the voicemail hacks are discussed. The glee is barely contained.

    Holy [CoC], I thought that comment above was a joke! (Been off the net most of the day.) Bust a gut laughing!

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  5. RightAngles Member
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    Max Ledoux:

    Richard O'Shea:I think this the first time since Johnson was in office that dems are concerned about the Russians.

    Mitt was roundly mocked in 2012 by all Democrats….

    Trump campaign ad: The clip of Obama telling Romney “The 80s called. It wants its foreign policy back.”

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  6. The Question Inactive
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    Jamie Lockett:Yeah that was supremely dumb of the Clinton campaign. I doubt it was intentional on Trump’s part but she walked right into that one and face planted.

    I didn’t occur to me at first how Trump pulled that out of them.  I really don’t if it was a Jar Jar Binks move or actual cleverness on Trump’s part.  I’m thinking it was a Jar Jar Binks move (“OOOPS!!!  Meesa so clumsy!!!” as he takes out three battle droids).

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  7. J. D. Fitzpatrick Member
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    kelsurprise:

    CB Toder aka Mama Toad:I love your third tag too, by the way.

    Image result for utkatasana

    OH, that’s a different translation – – funny, though, it certainly fits with some of my darker thoughts, at times, where that felonious harridan is concerned.

    I actually chose the tag based on this pic:

    Screen Shot 2016-07-27 at 6.18.28 PM

    God, that was a hard pose.

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  8. Marion Evans Inactive
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    So she was extremely careless and should not be president. And he is insane and maybe treasonous and should not be president. No use harping on only one of these two things.

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  9. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    HVTs:

    kelsurprise: What strict interpreters of every last syllable of every single statute leftists become when they desperately need to vilify somebody?

    Great points, but about this let’s be clear . . . the only thing they are really trying to do—the only thing they ever do when caught out— is change the subject. In this instance, vilification of someone else is their ticket. A few days ago, the point was “the Russians released the emails to help Trump!” As if that mattered one iota . . . it was the content of the emails, not the chain of custody that mattered.

    The Left Wing Media (yes, a redundancy) slobbers all over itself as it earns the DNC’s Useful Idiocy Award for service as Agents of Distraction.

    Well, there are some on the right helping to attack Trump over this too. Remember this all shows that Trump is PUtin’s Stooge to Right.

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  10. Austin Murrey Inactive
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    kelsurprise: You know, when I wrote this, I’d just come home from work, flipped on the tv and the first thing I saw was the local news reporting on the two statements. I had no idea at that time that there were people who were seriously tossing around the word “treason” to describe Trump’s comment. But later, I heard at least two convention commentators say as much.

    People are suggesting that on Ricochet too.

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  11. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Austin Murrey:

    kelsurprise: You know, when I wrote this, I’d just come home from work, flipped on the tv and the first thing I saw was the local news reporting on the two statements. I had no idea at that time that there were people who were seriously tossing around the word “treason” to describe Trump’s comment. But later, I heard at least two convention commentators say as much.

    People are suggesting that on Ricochet too.

    The Clinton Foundation? Not Treason.

    Bush Family link to Saudis? Not Treason.

    Trump cracks a joke about Russia, with zero evidence of quid pro quo? High Treason!

    And this is from the Right, not the Left.

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  12. Pelayo Inactive
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    Front Seat Cat:It’s bizarre that a statement that Trump made to ask the Russians to find the missing 30,000 emails is being highlighted by all the mainstream press – it’s laughable – the server was destroyed, the emails missing – by who? Hilary. Then came the lies, “I don’t have any classified emails nor did I send any”, I turned everything over, I deleted personal emails only, I am not “technically savvy so I only wanted one device” and on and on and on – all lies. Trump probably made it in jest, because the Russians and God only knows who else, have hacked us many times and visa versa. She did not seem to think it was any big deal!! They wanted to take the attention away from that fact as well as the DNC leak from Wikileaks. Yet the media and the Democrats will miss the obvious and defend the misdeeds on the part of Hilary.

    Trump was obviously using sarcasm (and has said so following the comment). Don’t Democrats always claim to be funnier than Republicans? Where is their sense of humor?

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  13. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Pelayo: Trump was obviously using sarcasm (and has said so following the comment). Don’t Democrats always claim to be funnier than Republicans? Where is their sense of humor?

    Studies have shown that commies, stealth socialists, and smiley-faced fascists lose their sense of humor over time. It’s science. :-(   <—— for @mendel

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  14. Ralphie Inactive
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    Marion Evans: No use harping on only one of these two things.

    I think Putin has them both lined up for blackmail/failure. He probably has Trump’s financial records and dealings in Russia also.

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  15. Probable Cause Inactive
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    Russia?  Hey Hillary, the 80’s called, and they want their foreign policy back.

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  16. Matt Upton Inactive
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    It seemed obvious to me that in context, Trump was pointing out that if the Russians have embarrassing stuff on the DNC, they have embarrassing stuff on Hillary. She allowed herself to be influenced by foreign powers. (If Trump was more savy, he would have tied in Clinton foundation money tied to uranium deals).

    For once this is less about Trump and more about Hillary’s vulnerabilities.

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  17. kelsurprise Member
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    Ralphie:

    Marion Evans: No use harping on only one of these two things.

    I think Putin has them both lined up for blackmail/failure. He probably has Trump’s financial records and dealings in Russia also.

    Wow.  Now there’s a thought.

    No matter how annoying I find Trump, I’d so prefer that this continue to be the Democrats’ and Hillary’s problem, of course.  They so richly deserve it.

    As an actress, however, I cannot help but be intrigued by the plot twist you have proposed for Act II of this farce.

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  18. Marion Evans Inactive
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    Ralphie:

    Marion Evans: No use harping on only one of these two things.

    I think Putin has them both lined up for blackmail/failure. He probably has Trump’s financial records and dealings in Russia also.

    Mutually assured destruction here because we have a lot on P as well, allegedly the richest man in the world.

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  19. The Reticulator Member
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    Marion Evans:

    Ralphie:

    Marion Evans: No use harping on only one of these two things.

    I think Putin has them both lined up for blackmail/failure. He probably has Trump’s financial records and dealings in Russia also.

    Mutually assured destruction here because we have a lot on P as well, allegedly the richest man in the world.

    What difference, at this point, does it make?

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  20. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Kozak:Screen Shot 2016-07-27 at 8.52.49 PM

    Aannnndddd another shoe drops….

    Is this true or a joke?

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  21. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Pelayo:

    Front Seat Cat:It’s bizarre that a statement that Trump made to ask the Russians to find the missing 30,000 emails is being highlighted by all the mainstream press – it’s laughable – the server was destroyed, the emails missing – by who? Hilary. Then came the lies, “I don’t have any classified emails nor did I send any”, I turned everything over, I deleted personal emails only, I am not “technically savvy so I only wanted one device” and on and on and on – all lies. Trump probably made it in jest, because the Russians and God only knows who else, have hacked us many times and visa versa. She did not seem to think it was any big deal!! They wanted to take the attention away from that fact as well as the DNC leak from Wikileaks. Yet the media and the Democrats will miss the obvious and defend the misdeeds on the part of Hilary.

    Trump was obviously using sarcasm (and has said so following the comment). Don’t Democrats always claim to be funnier than Republicans? Where is their sense of humor?

    what would be funnier is if they had the 30,000 missing emails……..and they mysteriously showed up….

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  22. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    Front Seat Cat:

    Kozak:.

    Is this true or a joke?

    Not a joke. All true. Heh.

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  23. Annefy Member
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    Front Seat Cat:

    Pelayo:

    Front Seat Cat:It’s bizarre that a statement that Trump made to ask the Russians to find the missing 30,000 emails is being highlighted by all the mainstream press – it’s laughable – the server was destroyed, the emails missing – by who? Hilary. Then came the lies, “I don’t have any classified emails nor did I send any”, I turned everything over, I deleted personal emails only, I am not “technically savvy so I only wanted one device” and on and on and on – all lies. Trump probably made it in jest, because the Russians and God only knows who else, have hacked us many times and visa versa. She did not seem to think it was any big deal!! They wanted to take the attention away from that fact as well as the DNC leak from Wikileaks. Yet the media and the Democrats will miss the obvious and defend the misdeeds on the part of Hilary.

    Trump was obviously using sarcasm (and has said so following the comment). Don’t Democrats always claim to be funnier than Republicans? Where is their sense of humor?

    what would be funnier is if they had the 30,000 missing emails……..and they mysteriously showed up….

    Like the Rose Law Firm bills??

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  24. Autistic License Coolidge
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    It’s hilarious that they’re now going on about Trump compromising national security by asking the Russians to release the emails.  An old joke from a friend:  a man once wrote to a neighboring country asking them to invade.  His king had him arrested and threatened him with beheading.  The man said, “your Majesty, if it means that much to you, I’ll write and tell them not to come.”

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  25. The Reticulator Member
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    Autistic License:It’s hilarious that they’re now going on about Trump compromising national security by asking the Russians to release the emails. An old joke from a friend: a man once wrote to a neighboring country asking them to invade. His king had him arrested and threatened him with beheading. The man said, “your Majesty, if it means that much to you, I’ll write and tell them not to come.”

    That’s not quite the way I remember it in That Very Münchhausen (Тот самый Мюнхгаузен) but it’s in the same spirit.  (The film is my favorite of Mark Zakharov’s movies.  Zakharov is the film director who famously burned his communist party membership card in front of television cameras in 1991.)

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