Contempt for the Governed; Conceit of the Governing Elite

 
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Eeek! A productive citizen!

I don’t have much to add, but if you haven’t read Donald Trump is Right About One Thing: Our Experts Know Nothing, I want to make sure you don’t miss it. It’s by Michael Ginsberg at The Federalist, and although it’s a little long, it’s worth every moment of your time.

My resentment, long in remission, came back and crystallized in the following thought: Americans are governed by politicians who see fit to reimagine entire sectors of our economy and, indeed, our lives despite having little, if any, experience in the areas of life they seek to reform wholesale. This means Americans, seeing the failures of government from Obamacare to the Veterans Affairs, from the Environmental Protection Agency dumping toxic materials into a Colorado river to the Dodd-Frank regulations strangling local community banks, have had just about enough of their credentialed but utterly inexperienced supposed betters reordering their lives and livelihoods.

More:

Even a casual listener can hear the lack of experience every time Hillary Clinton or other Democrats start talking about the economy or business. They talk about how they will force businesses to share profits with employees. They talk about how unions are essential to the growth of the middle class. They talk about how employers should pay a higher minimum wage. They are happy to stick their hands in companies’ profits. Yet they speak from having absolutely no experience ever having run a company. They have never had to meet a payroll or make business decisions. They view businesses as bottomless pots of money they can simply raid to provide more goodies for one favored group or another.

I’m hoping to put together a post about reasons to vote for Trump not directly related to Clinton’s deficiencies. For now, though, I’ll say one of the things that I like best about voting for Trump is the precedent it sets for electing someone from among the governed, rather than the governing elites.

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  1. Columbo Inactive
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    Well done … MainFeed WC!

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  2. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    This also shows how useless most of the pundits are. Writers who produce nothing, but think they know best. That is why I love James and his family gas station. He knows, and it shows in his writings.

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  3. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Ball Diamond Ball:

    How many Americans has Trump killed?

    As I said in another comment yesterday, it’s only fair to Trump to point out that he hasn’t yet had the opportunity. Only 80% kidding.

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  4. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Columbo:Well done … MainFeed WC!

    I blame the editors.

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  5. M1919A4 Member
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    Flagg Taylor:This argument about progressivism and experts is largely correct. But I see no connection b/w that and voting for Trump. He’s a corrupt insider with no apparent abiding political principles who knows nothing and cares not a whit for the Constitution.

    But, coming behind the Troll is the Witch, and I fear Madame. Hillary and her band of outriders more than I do Mr. Trump.  In other words, I must have one or the other, so let it be he, and not she.

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  6. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Tom Meyer:

    Western Chauvinist: But, for now, I’ll say one of the things I like best about voting for Trump is the precedent it sets for electing someone from among the governed, rather than the governing elites.

    Wait… how is Trump in the former class rather than the latter? How many working stiffs have the Clintons attend their wedding?

    He’s been a businessman having to respond to regulations (yes, sometimes regs written to favor people like him), but he hasn’t been making policy. At least, not directly. I doubt very much he was consulted before Hillarycare or Obamacare were rolled out. Probably not Dodd-Frank either.

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  7. Front Seat Cat Member
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    MarciN:I don’t think he is a con man. However, I’m not sure he’s had much direct involvement in the construction projects his company has built.

    Why not?

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  8. Front Seat Cat Member
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    I guess the bottom line is “here we are”.  It’s a waste of time arguing about replacing Trump, or the reasons not to like him – it’s him or Hilary.  He is the nominee precisely because half the country has been outraged at the changes of the last eight years – that have caused real division, loss of confidence (by our own citizens and allies), emboldened the enemies, removed Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion from the public square, turned a great healthcare system on it’s ear, heaped more tax and regulation on business than ever before, failed to call out cronyism within his own appointees (IRS, EPA, etc.), created a common core teaching system that removes individuality and thought while making everyone the same, even school lunch program changes failed.  I’ve never seen so much progress so quickly among the thugs of the world – no need to name them – so if you can’t put your faith in Trump at this point, or want to sit it out, you will get Hilary and an extension of the above. These are long lasting consequences for generations, appointed judges, new laws – you will not recognize our country at the end of a Hilary term.

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  9. Front Seat Cat Member
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    I guess the bottom line is “here we are”.  It’s a waste of time arguing about replacing Trump, or the reasons not to like him – it’s him or Hilary.  He is the nominee precisely because half the country has been outraged at the changes of the last eight years – that have caused real division, loss of confidence (by our own citizens and allies), emboldened the enemies, removed Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion from the public square, turned a great healthcare system on it’s ear, heaped more tax and regulation on business than ever before, failed to call out cronyism within his own appointees (IRS, EPA, etc.), created a common core teaching system that removes individuality and thought while making everyone the same, even school lunch program changes failed.  I’ve never seen so much progress so quickly among the thugs of the world – no need to name them – so if you can’t put your faith in Trump at this point, or want to sit it out, you will get Hilary and an extension of the above. These are long lasting consequences for generations, appointed judges, new laws – you will not recognize our country at the end of a Hilary term. But keep hashing. (whoops – sorry for the repeat – trigger finger on the mouse!)

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  10. Columbo Inactive
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    Tom Meyer:

    Columbo:Well done … MainFeed WC!

    I blame the editors.

    hatsoff

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  11. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Tom Meyer:

    Columbo:Well done … MainFeed WC!

    I blame the editors.

    Yes, about that… I liked my title better.  ;-)   <——– this one’s for Mendel

    How about a compromise? Contempt for the Governed; Conceit of the Governing Elite

    The thing about electing a non-politician — someone who’s had to operate in a competitive market — is he’s more likely to have a constrained vision about what government can actually accomplish, and a more realistic view of the damage government can do. I’m not saying Donald Trump is the model candidate for this. But, he does represent the possibility of electing that person some day, having made it to the nomination (mostly) fair and square.

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  12. Fredösphere Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist: Mr. (Dr.) Trink, Trink, Mr. C and I actually ended up soaking in a hot tub with one of the lawyers attending a Hillarycare session in Santa Fe.

    Yeah, funny, heh–WHAAA???

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  13. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Fredösphere:

    Western Chauvinist: Mr. (Dr.) Trink, Trink, Mr. C and I actually ended up soaking in a hot tub with one of the lawyers attending a Hillarycare session in Santa Fe.

    Yeah, funny, heh–WHAAA???

    I’m trying to maintain some element of mystery here…

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  14. Larry Koler Inactive
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    I Walton:Some confusion, the governing elite know they know nothing, but they recognize the advantages of perch, leverage and connections. Experts in contrast are credentialed technical types who think they know far more than they do or could know. Both suffer hubris and are parasitical but the latter are essential to the governing myths the former use to extract rents from the mass of people who actually do things that matter.

    Good point.

    We don’t want experts nor intellectuals governing the country. We do need more people who are from the governed class or who can become champions of the governed. Trump goes directly for those in the governed class who are losing control of their lives more and more and addresses issues that resonate with them. This is populism and there will always be a need for this in any democratic system.

    Interestingly, the GOP has played a role in cordoning off the intellectual nitwits on our side into a ghetto that has lost touch with those that are affected more than these nitwits are. Breaking that cordon and talking directly to those in the GOP’s charge really angers these guys. I think that the GOP thought they could slowly build up their numbers by waiting long enough for people to get mad and  join them. But, instead, they waited too long for total control and didn’t do their basic jobs and used the excuse that they didn’t have total control yet. Just like with Al Sharpton they didn’t want to solve problems on their side because they needed the anger in the ranks to make money and build their power bases. Problem is we decided that we didn’t trust that these guys would ever do anything and decided to leave their ghetto.

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  15. BastiatJunior Member
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    drlorentz: This is the populist siren song. It is not an unqualified good. It may be good and it may well be the medicine we need right now. But please bear in mind that it’s the same pitch that charlatans like Huey Long made: Every man a king, but no one wears a crown.

    The waters are muddied here because the “elite” candidate (Hillary) adheres to an ideology similar to that of the French revolutionaries.

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  16. BastiatJunior Member
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    Tom Meyer:

    Western Chauvinist: But, for now, I’ll say one of the things I like best about voting for Trump is the precedent it sets for electing someone from among the governed, rather than the governing elites.

    Wait… how is Trump in the former class rather than the latter? How many working stiffs have the Clintons attend their wedding?

    Not to split hairs here, but to be in the “governing class,” shouldn’t one be, presently or previously, in the government?

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  17. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Western Chauvinist: The thing about electing a non-politician — someone who’s had to operate in a competitive market — is he’s more likely to have a constrained vision about what government can actually accomplish, and a more realistic view of the damage government can do.

    I agree. As my dad has said, it should bug all of us that any kid who’s run a lemonade stand for five minutes has more private sector experience than Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz put together.

    I’m not saying Donald Trump is the model candidate for this. But, he does represent the possibility of electing that person some day, having made it to the nomination (mostly) fair and square.

    If I got even the slightest hint that he objected to the rules more than he compliments himself on his ability to get special dispensation for them, I’d agree. As it is…

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  18. Judge Mental Member
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    Tom Meyer:

    If I got even the slightest hint that he objected to the rules more than he compliments himself on his ability to get special dispensation for them, I’d agree. As it is…

    Tom, I suspect that his preference would be to not have to deal with the rules, but that as it is, he compliments himself on being able to negotiate the minefield and reach his goal.

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  19. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Western Chauvinist: Contempt for the Governed; Conceit of the Governing Elite

    Done.

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  20. Miffed White Male Member
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    I Walton:Some confusion, the governing elite know they know nothing, but they recognize the advantages of perch, leverage and connections. Experts in contrast are credentialed technical types who think they know far more than they do or could know. Both suffer hubris and are parasitical but the latter are essential to the governing myths the former use to extract rents from the mass of people who actually do things that matter.

    I think this is exactly wrong.

    Are you telling me that Obama and/or Hillary (and/or Ted Cruz/<insert favorite Republican Presidential candidate here>) “know they know nothing”?

    It is to laugh to even present the question.  Obama in particular thinks he knows everything.

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  21. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Tom Meyer:

    I’m not saying Donald Trump is the model candidate for this. But, he does represent the possibility of electing that person some day, having made it to the nomination (mostly) fair and square.

    If I got even the slightest hint that he objected to the rules more than he compliments himself on his ability to get special dispensation for them, I’d agree. As it is…

    You’re still talking about DT, though. I’ve already conceded he’s not the one. He’s just the potential gateway to the one. By contrast, Hillary is a brick wall. We can’t get there through her.

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  22. Trink Coolidge
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    Western Chauvinist: I’ll say one of the things that I like best about voting for Trump is the precedent it sets for electing someone from among the governed, rather than the governing elites.

    All riiiight!!  Thanks for this WC!

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  23. Trink Coolidge
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    drlorentz: I’d like to see political figures drawn from a more representative cross section of occupations for much the same reasons as cited in the excerpt.

    Tom Coburn.  Patriot.

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