Brave Old World: Setting Priorities

 

BRAVE OLD WORLDGive me your thoughts about the questions you most want this book to answer, and your sense of the places you want me to go to find the answers. There’s a limit to what I can do in a single book. Europe’s a huge, complicated continent. If I try to do everything I’ll do nothing well: I have to focus more narrowly to write effectively.

I’ve filled in the chapter headings and suggested a bit about how I might go about researching them. I’ve added some other possibilities. Would you give me your sense about what’s most interesting to you; but also, your sense of what would interest a broader American audience? What might be a commercial success, in other words?

  1. Blind Spots. Ten years later, what did I get right? What did I get wrong, and why? I’ll use this part to review the arguments I made in the first book, both as an introduction — that way no one has to read the first book to understand this one — but also to ask, “Why were some of my predictions good, but others quite wrong?” For a sense of which were good and which weren’t, you could read the reviews on the book’s Wikipedia page. I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that it gives me satisfaction, now, to read the bad reviews. I’d prefer to have been wrong, but the reviewers now sound like such witless, clueless fools. But pleasing as it always is to say, “I told you so,” it’s more important to ask, “Why did I miss some things that should have been obvious, and were obvious to other people? How do I avoid making the same mistakes in this book?”
  2. Alimony Europe. I argued in the first book that there were two Europes: alimony Europe and the place where Europeans lived. To judge from the number of books I’d seen published about the challenges of renovating a farmhouse in Tuscany or Provence, large swathes of Europe were populated by middle-aged American divorcées, living large on the alimony and greatly preoccupied by the tending of their new olive terraces. Alimony Europe was awfully nice. But it wasn’t the whole story.
  3. Blackmailed by History. The more important story was the other things I saw. I saw a Continent blackmailed by its own history — one until very recently a story of nearly uninterrupted war and savagery. Ethnic wars, religious wars, wars of ideology and genocide weren’t aberrations in Europe’s history, they were its history. I described the Void of Europe: the consequence of two epochal events that still reverberate in everything people here say, do, and feel, even if they have no idea why: the death of Christianity and the catastrophe of the two World Wars. The nation-state, the arts, music, science, fascism, communism, and even rationality — all of these were substitutes for the ordering role Christianity had played in European life. And all failed. So what was left? No one was quite sure. What Frenchman, after all, can stand before the graveyards of Ypres and Verdun and without choking on the words profess his allegiance to the mission civilatrice?
  4. Not Our Problem. That’s what many Americans believed and still believe. I argued then and still this is not so. An unmoored Europe, imploding under the weight of social and economic pressures few politicians in Europe can even forthrightly describe, no less address, poses a threat to American interests and objectives everywhere on the planet. But still. I was right to say that, but it looks awfully out-of-touch to me now, a decade later. Notice what I missed? While I was peering anxiously at Europe, I failed to notice similar historical forces at work in my own country.
  5. The Sick Man of the Globe. Disorder is inevitable when a hegemonic power falls into desuetude. To my astonishment, the past decade has reversed the degenerative tide: The central story now is no longer the threat to America posed by these pressures on Europe; it’s the threat to Europe posed by these pressures on America — the country that has until now been the guarantor of the postwar global order. (Walter Russell Mead recently wrote a short and very effective piece in the American Interest about the world’s loss of confidence in the Pax Americana and why this is a big, big problem). Among the things I have to ask myself now is how on earth I failed to see this coming. Why did I think Europe and America were so different that what I was seeing in Europe wouldn’t also be true of America? How much did I misunderstand both Europe and my own native country to have thought this?
  6. The New Cold War. One of the first book’s themes was that Europe’s fate, since the Second World War, had been in the hands of the superpowers. The Cold War having ended, I predicted, we would now see the return of the historic forces that were temporarily suppressed by the domination of the Continent by the United States and the Soviet Union. I was, I think, correct to predict this. But this book’s theme will be the enormously consequential development I didn’t foresee: The return of the Cold War.
  7. Hybrid Democracies. Admittedly along with much of America, I was entirely wrong to believe the rest of the world would naturally adopt liberal democracy as a form of government at the end of the Cold War. The rise of illiberal democracies, particularly in Russia and Turkey, was to me a great surprise and it is a great threat to Europe, both directly, in that Russian forces now openly threaten European countries, and indirectly, in that the authoritarian contagion has spread to Europe’s southern and eastern flanks.
  8. The Arab Winter. Likewise, I didn’t see this coming. In my defense, no one did. The catastrophic breakdown of states and social order in much of the Islamic world — one that has left a quarter of a million dead in Syria alone — is a grave threat to Europe. The United States has been strangely absent. Two terms of the Obama presidency culminated in a deal with Iran poised to bring the Mideast under its hegemonic control at best, plunge it into apocalyptic nuclear chaos at worst. While Obama tours Cuba, Trump the Usurper discusses his admiration for Putin’s deft handling of the media and eagerly proposes to jettison the NATO alliance, even as — for the first time since the Second World War — a European country is invaded, and others explicitly threatened with the use of nuclear weapons. (By the way, Putin’s first-use doctrine was never once articulated by the Soviet Union, nor did it even hint at such a thing, no less do so casually.)
  9. Too Young to Write that Book. I missed many other things — maybe because I was just too young to write the book I wrote. My discussion of Islam in Europe was shallow. I fell into the trap of looking at what was happening around me without considering it in the context of the much more significant and wider convulsion in the Islamic world, one that began (more or less) in the 18th century Wahhabi-Salafist restoration, progressed through the founding of the Muslim Brotherhood in 1928, reached an apogee in the Iranian revolution, and has latterly been expressed in transnational jihadist movements such as al Qaeda and ISIS. I need to correct this.
  10. Caught in the Middle. If I failed to foresee the massive Islamic civil war yet to come, I also failed to see the way it would play out in the European theater. While some Europeans believe the campaign is aimed at Europe, this is entirely self-regarding. Europe is mostly irrelevant to the main campaign — a vicious Islamic civil war and a renewed superpower conflict. But Europe is, again, the territory over which this new Cold War is being fought; and its status as a theater of the Islamic civil war will be key to how it ends.
  11. Yet, Still … There is a sense in which Europe is at the heart of things. I’d like to look more closely at the European roots of Islamist movements. It may seem an odd thesis to advance, and I’m not yet sure it’s the right one. But it’s notable to me, for example, that so many of the 20th century’s greatest butchers were educated in Paris. The Chinese communists were educated here, for example, where they were introduced to Marxism-Leninism. Ho Chi Minh became a political radical during his Paris education through his association with the French Socialist Party; he was one of the founding members of the French Communist Party. Le Duan, the founder of the Vietnam Communist Party? Educated in Paris. Pol Pot? Educated in Paris. It’s been clearly documented that he became a communist through involvement with the French Communist Party. Laurent-Désiré Kabila, communist guerrilla, later dictator of Congo? Educated in Paris. Fair to say, I reckon, that something about their encounter with Europe was correlated with, if not the cause of, a subsequent species of murderous radicalism to which an education at Texas A&M just never gives rise. What is it, exactly?
  12. Next Stop, Caliphate: Whatever it is, could it be connected to the fact that a massive number of Europeans have joined ISIS? The numbers are astonishing: More are coming from France and Belgium than from many majority-Muslim countries. France is a significantly bigger source of recruits than Lebanon, Libya, Turkey, Uzbekistan, or Pakistan, and on a par with Morocco. What happens to Muslims in Europe — to everyone from abroad educated in Europe, in fact — that makes them more apt to be radical, violent, and murderous than their counterparts in their countries of origin? I don’t know. I’d like to find out.
  13. How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Islam. Or like it well enough, anyway. I missed an important part of this story in the first book, namely that Muslims in Europe were more sick in the head than many Muslims in the larger Islamic world. I realized this because after writing that book, I then lived ten years in Turkey and spent quite a bit of time travelling to other parts of the Islamic world, too. The rest of the Muslim world surely has its share of Islamist goons and loons, but in general, the people among whom I lived happily and peacefully for years weren’t remotely interested in millenarian, apocalyptic interpretations of their religion or obsessed with violence as a species of deranged performance art. Something terrible is happening in Europe’s Islamic culture — prefigured by something similar that happened to non-Islamic cultures when their emissaries encountered Europe in the early 20th century. I don’t know why.
  14. So Hey, Why not Ask? The place to start is by talking to Muslims in Europe. I did too little of that in the first book. I was too focused on talking to other Europeans. It shouldn’t be hard (according to the statistics, anyway) to find Muslims here who at least sympathize with jihadi movements. I’d like to ask them why. I’ll listen to what they say, and report it. But I’d like to report much more about normal Muslims, too: The media tends only to be interested in Islamists, so it’s rare to hear from them. This — not their inexistence — leads to the impression many have that Muslims don’t speak out against terrorist atrocities.
  15. Demography and its Discontents. Here’s something else I got wrong: Islamism in Europe has generally been declining, not growing. My demographic predictions were very, very wrong. My assumption about the permanence of the radicalizing trend was also wrong. I obviously misunderstood something about European Islamism in a profoundly erroneous way. I realized this quickly when I came back to France three years ago. Had I been even close to right in my demographic predictions, France would by now look very different. Birth rates among Muslims fell to developed-world norms far faster than I (or many demographers) expected. Simultaneously, native birth rates in France rose. I don’t properly understand why. I need to speak to, and learn more from, demographers who have been tracking these trends to see if anyone — anywhere — had a better predictive record, or if indeed demography is as dismal a science as economics. If the mistakes were owed to my inadequate understanding of demography, I’d like to correct them and make better predictions this time.
  16. The Continent Where God Goes to Die. But more importantly, the level of religiosity and religious observance among Muslims in Europe fell, remarkably quickly, to approximately the level of religious observance of the people around them. Muslims in France from North Africa have generally become less religiously observant. About a fifth have become outright atheists, similar to the rate of French Christians. Only about five percent attend a mosque regularly. I was stunningly wrong in my predictions about this, and I need to understand the cognitive mistakes that led me to do what can only be called “lousy research.” Some of my critics were right about that. Chapeau, critics.
  17. That Said … I don’t understand why this is happening even as the descendents of Muslim immigrants to Europe (almost never the first generation — always the second generation), along with native European converts, are fueling the jihad overseas. I don’t have a hypothesis at this stage. I need to ask them why, without preconceptions, and listen to what they tell me. Among the vague thoughts that occur to me, though, is that perhaps the European jihad is not so much directed at native Europeans in the Dar al-Harb (the House of War) as it is toward European Muslims? Has the loss of Muslim identity and faith in Europe threatened jihadi leaders in the Dar al-Islam more than one would have expected? Why? I don’t know the answer yet.
  18. Ottoman Fantasies, or, things I learned from living in Turkey. This could be a book in itself, but a part of it is relevant here. Among the most important things I learned is that Europeans were largely stunningly uninterested in a country that was obviously of huge strategic significance to them. Lately, we’ve seen exactly why. They were uninterested, even though, according to their bureaucrats, Turkey was a part of Europe — on a path to uniting with it. Certainly it was a part that in the past had been highly significant European theater of war.  I don’t yet understand this. But the story I want to understand, and ultimately tell in this book, is the story of a Europe that was so determined to see in Turkey things that simply were not there that it invented them.
  19. Vibrant Democracy? Clearly the West — both Europe and the US — decided it would be useful to have in Turkey a model of a thriving, Muslim liberal democracy. They therefore decided that this was what it was, rather than taking any step that might have made it so. No evidence to the contrary was sufficient to shake their belief that it was already true. I was there, and so in an excellent position to distinguish reality from propaganda. When you’re woken at dawn yet again by police sirens because the cops are yet again arresting every journalist in your neighborhood, you’re not in much doubt that the folks in charge are not liberal democrats. So I was flabbergasted by what I read in the Western press and heard from European statesmen during a time when I could see, daily, that what they were saying was flatly untrue.
  20. Reputational Bubble. I observed during that decade a phenomenon that for want of a better term, I’ll call  a “reputational bubble”—by which I mean that Europe’s collective assessment of Turkey was guided not by observation or by impartial assessment, but by cognitive biases that led to groupthink and herd behavior. (This was just as true in the United States.) It was either the cause or the consequence of an exceptionally poor understanding of Turkey by the European publics and their policy makers, and resulted in the crafting of policies toward Turkey that actively worked against their national interests. If Turkey’s political stock was trading at prices considerably at variance with its intrinsic value, much of the inflation was owed to Europe’s willingness to purchase large volumes of that stock. Turkey failed to benefit from honest and deserved market feedback, particularly in the form of pressure from the United States and Europe to liberalize—to which it might well have been  responsive, given the government’s response to the rare cases when it has been applied. Journalists exhibited a guileful and superficial grasp of Turkey and its history and were unwilling to report or explain anything complex. On the diplomatic side, I observed—to put it bluntly—that if my intention were to ensure that my country be loathed and held in contempt by the Turkish public, I would behave precisely as European and American diplomats did. Did the obsession with finding “moderate Muslims” cause otherwise intelligent people to lose their analytic acumen?
  21. By the way. I don’t believe the most significant change in Turkey over the past decade is owed to the Islamic character of the AKP. Sunni majoritarian politics are clearly one, visible part of this problem—and the part most easily understood by the Western public. But this element of the AKP’s nature has been overstated compared to much more significant changes: to wit, the AKP’s assumption of control over the entire Turkish state apparatus. Turkey under the AKP became dangerously different, but only to some degree because it became more Islamic. More importantly, it was Putinized.
  22. Putinization. What happened, in short, was that the flavor of Turkey’s authoritarianism changed. Once it was served as state-worship centered around Atatürk’s cult of personality; now it was served as Sunni majoritarianism centered around Erdoğan’s cult of personality. Turkey enjoyed a long period of economic growth under the AKP—normal growth, but by no means the reported “miraculous” growth. This, in tandem with the incompetence of Turkey’s opposition parties, enabled Erdoğan to stay in power long enough to systematically to neuter the forces that served or might one day serve as a counterweight to the Party’s power. He acquired near-complete control over the media, the judiciary, and the military—and again, the swallowing by the executive of the latter two power centers was hailed by Europe as a democratic miracle; while the first was largely ignored. The part of this story I don’t understand is this: Why did Europe go along with this? Why did no one in Europe ask, “Is this in our long-term strategic interest? Why are we facilitating this, through our massive investment in Turkey and through the EU accession process?”
  23. The Bear Emerges from Hibernation. I also failed to predict in my first book that an almost identical process would transpire in Russia. Indeed, I failed to predict the whole phenomenon of hybrid regimes and managed democracies. I assumed, along with many Americans, that liberal democracies were the inevitable post-Cold War geopolitical trend. Russia’s Putinization — the ur-Putinization — was to have even more ominous implications. I wrote almost nothing about this in Menace in Europe, save to say that Russia might in the future prove a threat. I was blind to the signs that it would be the threat, and that the West’s focus on Islam and terrorism would make it uncommonly vulnerable to Russia’s brand of psychological and hybrid war on Europe and NATO. Much of this book will be about the way this new Cold War is playing out across Europe and the way Europe is failing spectacularly to respond effectively to a threat that it could easily contain, if only it recognized it. Russia would be no match for a determined, united Europe. But Russia’s unconventional warfare skills, central command, and overwhelming superiority in propaganda have left Europe (and NATO) disunited and vulnerable. Putin is ever-so-skillfully exploiting entirely predictable unease about the EU’s bureaucratic expansion, the entirely predictable explosion of populist and nationalist sentiment in the wake of the Eurozone crisis, and the entirely predictable wave of fear and resentment about the consequences of the refugee influx — this in turn the direct consequence of the Islamic civil war and the superpower conflict in Syria, which Putin has been predictably worsening.
  24. Cui Bono? Who benefits from ISIS’s attacks? Not ISIS: The attacks serve only to hasten its demise. Conventional military power still matters. ISIS will be crushed. But Russia is poised to benefit. Having long cultivated Europe’s fringe movements and anti-immigration parties, it is now magnifying, through its impressive propaganda organs, the effects of the refugee crisis and the divisions among European nations about how best to manage it. The parties least welcoming to refugees are the ones most eager to enter a closer alliance with Russia, and end the sanctions Russia faces as punishment for its annexation of Crimea and invasion of the Donbass. Through this route, the established democracies of Europe may well find themselves corrupted and managed by the powerful hybrid democracies on their periphery — Turkey and Russia — until they, too, are hybrid and managed democracies. It’s happening already in Hungary and Poland. There are signs of it in Germany.
  25. Look East. To understand this, I need to spend time in the post-Soviet space and the more conventionally-contested theaters — the Caucasus, Ukraine, the Balkans. I’ve also got to spend more time looking at the means by which Russians are bending Western European countries to their will.
  26. The Death of the EU. I seem to have been right to predict, in Menace in Europe, that the EU had no hope of survival. Unifying Europe was an ancient fantasy, I wrote, and one that had always failed. Europe is not a country. It’s a continent. Whatever the EU architects say to the contrary, Europe remains a hybrid entity comprising states united by no shared language, culture, or history; just trade treaties and toothless courts. Some of its states are unhappily yoked together by an albatross of a currency. Each wants full sovereignty when it suits its national interests; none wants it when it doesn’t. Indeed, Europe’s a fiction: a series of planned economic entanglements, without any true common foreign and defense policy.
  27. Hang Together or Hang Separately. But absent the development of such a policy — and quickly — the collective states of Europe face a dim future, for the nature of the threats it now confronts are not the inter-European rivalries the EU was designed to mitigate, but global threats that the EU was not designed to counter at all. Can a collection of nation-states whose populations in fact loathe each other hang together? I don’t know, but it’s that or hang separately. What prevents them from hanging together is the European nations’ still-powerful and entirely understandable attachment to their individual sovereignty. The EU worked well enough when times were good. It didn’t, after all, prevent Europe from enjoying the most peaceful and prosperous half-century in its history. But it’s far from clear that it works when times are bad, and they are bad. Of much greater immediate concern than Europe’s looming Islamization — a threat that seems to consume Americans with worry, even though I suspect this trend has peaked — is that Europe has no common policy for immigration and border control, still less for involving itself constructively in resolving the conflicts that are producing these refugees.
  28. Houses Divided Cannot Stand. If the Middle East continues in its current trajectory, Europe could wind up with not a million but tens of millions of refugees. If Europe has no common foreign policy toward Russia, Putin will cheerfully exploit its divisions to bring state after state under Russian influence or control. And if Europe continues to pursue a policy of monetary integration without ceding sovereignty to some form of federal government, we’ll see more reiterations of Greece punished and alienated by Germany, of Hungary and Poland descending into authoritarianism even as they keep their hands extended for aid from the EU, and of no one able to halt the process. Hungary and Greece are Europe’s borders. You can’t secure Europe from a rapacious Russia to the east and failed states and terror armies to the south unless countries like these are fully committed to the European project. With America is in its imperial dotage, Europe can’t even hope literally to wall itself off and hope that someone else sorts it all out. Even were Europe to build a new Berlin Wall around its entire periphery, twice as high and guarded by savage Dobermans, telling all those who can’t breach the walls to go drown in the Mediterranean, it would still be threatened by the chaos to its south. Now consider the entirely plausible idea of a terrorist army able to purchase a nuclear arsenal from North Korea, for example. Think Belgium or Slovenia can address these threats on their own? I don’t.
  29. Constitutional Crisis. To sum up, Europe is now facing history’s biggest constitutional crisis. It must either develop real federal political institutions or break into its component parts. In the latter eventuality, countries like Slovakia would be poor, weak, and quickly gobbled up by stronger countries. It may be natural for Slovaks to dislike being told what to do by outsiders, but what choice do they have? It may also be perfectly natural for Germans to say, “If you want to be a country with your own immigration policy, that’s darling. Be our guest. Just don’t expect your next subsidy of 10 billion euros from the EU.” But in the end, this will not solve Europe’s security problems. The anxiety about Islam and immigrants is causing enormous damage to European social trust. Terrorist attacks will always occasion demagogic grandstanding, which works because the public can’t easily distinguish useful security policy from theater. But there’s no getting around it: effective counterterrorism demands more unity among European nations, not less. Counterterrorism requires the centralization of power, people, and money. It requires specialist teams and specialist equipment, particularly for surveillance, data management, and intelligence-gathering. It involves sharing information quickly and effectively across national borders. It is highly unlikely that any European country can do this alone, and highly unlikely anyone else can or will do it for Europe—“it” being the ability to maintain and defend effective borders: real borders, not hastily erected fences to keep out refugees but borders sufficient to keep out armies.
  30. The Only Hope. Europe’s only hope is to create common institutions capable of devising and implementing a strategy to manage the influx of migrants and refugees; the even greater challenge is to create institutions that can address the instability and violence in Europe’s neighborhood. Unlike the European External Action Service and the High Representative for Foreign Affairs, these institutions must exist for a reason beyond merely existing. At bottom, the only way forward is a single foreign and defense policy. This means strengthening the union. It may be impossible to do—but really, what choice is there?

Can Europe do it? That’s what I’ll try to find out. And report.

Tell me what you think. What interests you? Where would you focus? To whom would you like me to speak?

By the way, I may be scarce in these parts in the coming few days. That’s because I’ll be out doing some of this reporting. I’ll be back, and I hope I’ll be back with interesting news to share with you. Thank you so much for making it possible for me to do that. (Still a bit short of the goal, so if you’re feeling generous, please contribute!)

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  1. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Member
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.
    @Claire

    Evan Meyer: Why is that particularly appealing to Europeans? I guess I’m less interested in ISIS per se than what it says about

    The only way for me to know is to ask. It sure doesn’t sound appealing to me, but these days it’s not much of a challenge to interview a jihadi, so I may as well ask them, “Say, what is it about this that appeals to you?”

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  2. James Gawron Inactive
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    1.) Blind Spots: I think putting the author into the action is completely legitimate for this enterprise. Dinesh D’Souza did much the same thing for his movies. He did a terrific job. It was a shame that it was wasted on politics. His perspective on America, his professionalism, and his intelligence are worth so much more than just an election year film. His ugly selective prosecution makes us wonder whether we aren’t in an illiberal democracy.

    Your voice is an excellent place to start this. Make it personal, make it human. I have no doubt that your professional standards won’t be corrupted.

    2.) Alimony Europe: This is an odd one. I’m not sure it belongs in this piece. It is more a commentary on the different tastes of men and women than on Europe. Notice the women aren’t moving there before their husbands die only after. That’s the tell.

    3.) Blackmailed by History: Isn’t this the whole question? What does Europe have to offer that is unique and necessary. There must be some minimalist set of values that new residents of Europe must be expected to assimilate to. If there isn’t there isn’t any reason for Europe to go on and no reason for anyone to go there. Unless, of course, you plan to rob its grave after knocking over the headstone.

    4.) Not our problem: Pardon me for being a damn Yankee but I think one might sell this by the statement. “Europe still needs us, it’s a pain in the CoC but Europe still needs us.” Churchill said that Americans always do what is right after they’ve tried everything else. We’ve tried everything else and just considering Europe as a responsibility, even an annoying one, might be something Americans are ready to hear.

    5.) The sick man of the globe: I think you are onto something here. Low birthrate, lack of family commitment, drugs, crime, and total lack of interest in religion suggest decadence. Time to look for the roots of that decadence and weed it out.

    6.) The New Cold War: Good theme. This is your forte. Go for it.

    7.) Hybrid Democracies: I think you need to look inward at this. Take us on your inward journey. You are a bit spoiled by the seemingly unstoppable success of democracy from Reagan to Bush. I’m a little older and can remember a much more forbidding time. We must earn our democracy the hard way. Dinesh D’Souza shouldn’t have been prosecuted but Hillary should be indicted tomorrow. Of course, your comments on Turkey & Russia should be of great interest in so many relevant ways.

    cont.

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  3. James Gawron Inactive
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    cont. from #35

    8.) The Arab Winter: Again you may need to look inward again here. Your generation and younger takes the psychologist account of life as a given. Jihadism and Dhimmi-Culture break the mold of therapy completely. They are so far out of our western civilizational mindscape we are missing it entirely. Take us on your internal journey on this and we will thank you for it.

    9.) To Young to write that book: No you weren’t. We need brave people to take on hard jobs. I’m glad you wrote it and I’m glad you are writing the new one. Take us on the inward journey of becoming older and wiser. Again, do so earnestly and everyone will thank you for it.

    10.&11.) Caught in the Middle..Yet, Still: Great theme. Your forte. Go for it.

    12.) Next stop Caliphate: Link this to the whole question of what are the minimum set of values Europe must demand. You won’t be wrong.

    13.) How I learned to stop worrying and learned to love Islam: Claire I will get a steel ruler and give you a serious rap on the hand for this. You underestimate how much pain is in the Moslem world alone. They don’t want you to love them as they are. They want you to care about what they could be. Don’t let yourself fall into this decadent mentality. Is this any way for The Iron Lady to think or act?

    14.) So Hey, Why not Ask: This is a perfectly legitimate approach but so often I have seen it abused. Someone with the most vague connection is interviewed because they will say what the interviewer wants to hear. Be careful with this. Oprah will love it but consider that a reverse recommendation.

    15.) Demography and its Discontents: This is another one to be wary of. You spend a great deal of time proving nothing then what you think is sure turns out to be false. Let somebody else do this.

    16.) The Continent where Gd Goes to Die: This is extremely important. You may not be ready yourself to explore this. I don’t want to rush you. Western Civilization is no accident. When you want to cut yourself off from the fountainhead of your soul you are making a mistake. If you feel this go for it.

    to be continued

    Regards,

    Jim

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  4. Zafar Member
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    Claire Berlinski, Ed.:

    Zafar:

    But a focus on Islam and Europe is probably the most commercially wise thing right now.

    Why do you think so?

    Events have done a lot of marketing for the subject already.  The public is frightened interested and browsing in your aisle.  Get your product out there before they move on.

    Plus: there are too many intellectual carpet baggers making a buck out of this this.  It’s a worthy subject, and it deserves a worthy book.  I believe that one such – that neither justifies nor panders – will be appreciated and bought.

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  5. Sandy Member
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    From #21: “50% of the world’s problems can be traced to Moscow and the other 50% to teachers unions…”  I do hope you can slip this sentence into your book.

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  6. James Gawron Inactive
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    cont. from #36

    17.) That Said: I don’t want to answer because you need to find the answer for yourself and your readers. However, my experience is that when something very fundamental is denied to you, for instance a religious experience that is basic to your family identity, you can overreact and act out because of it. You are trying to compensate for the total loss of identity that is the result. If the religion that you are an adherent of happens to have a belief in it that is as toxic as Jihad then there is a very great danger created.

    18.) Ottoman Fantasies: Cool, perfect for you, go for it.

    19.) Vibrant Democracy: Take us into your experiences. This is important stuff. Take us along for the ride.

    20.) Reputational Bubble: Sorry Claire but now you are asking a little too much. What you say is undoubtablely true but expectation that this should have been different is unlikely. However, this is the perfect advertisement for your reporting. “Turkey is important and we aren’t getting a clear enough picture to make good judgements. Let me fill you in.”

    21.&22.) By the way & Putinization: Great topics, we need to know what’s happened right now and how to read this. Go for it bigtime.

    23.&24.&25.) The Bear Emerges From Hibernation & Cui Bono & Look East: Bring it on home. This is the rising climax of import of the book.

    26.&27.&28.&29.&30.) The Death of the EU & Hang Together or & House Divided & Constitutional Crisis & The Only Hope: This is your ballgame Claire. I like the questions you are going to answer. Thanks for including my suggestion of the House Divided. Might seem a little corny but could be very useful here.

    I like it.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  7. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Jim, your comments are outstanding – this is a great outline and mirrors much of what I think Claire is looking for – they are all tied together, just like the topics in Menace One. Wow – buckle up – this is gonna be one hell of a ride!

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  8. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Thought for later…..Brave Old World – Europe revisited by Claire Berlinski t-shirts or something to that effect – to spark curiosity and free advertising – just the wording – no pictures – I’d get one -!! – think of all those beach goers and bikers this summer – just getting the name out – make sure they are v-neck – I hate those high collars!

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  9. Ansonia Member
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    I’m most drawn to the chapters that will explore the “french connection” of so many educated mass murderers (11 and 12).

    Also, I hope the picture with this post is your book cover. I love it.

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  10. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Member
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    Ansonia: Also, I hope the picture with this post is your book cover. I love it.

    Really? I do too! I’ve been amusing myself by playing with all the free cover creator programs out there. Boy, the publishing industry’s in trouble. This was drag-and-drop, I just chose a photo and added my title and name, and it spit this right out. I loved it, too, and honestly: I think it looks as good as most covers I see in bookstores.

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  11. Ansonia Member
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    Re: 43

    Better. Weren’t the gargoyles on churches supposed to ward off evil spirits or remind everyone that “the faith” warded them off ? For me, the cover alludes to the idea that the fading of Christian culture left, to say the least, a void.

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  12. genferei Member
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    Claire Berlinski, Ed.:

    Chapter 11. Dare one advance the thesis that leftism, and the leftists’ starry-eyed view of violence and power, are to blame?

    What happens … to everyone from abroad educated in Europe … that makes them more apt to be radical, violent, and murderous than their counterparts in their countries of origin?

    Umm. Really? Really? Too many Le Monde think-pieces, I suspect.

    But it’s true.

    It is true that all 300,000 foreign students in France 2015-2016 are “more apt to be radical … than their counterparts”? How would you measure “more apt”? Is the same thing true of Muslim Brotherhood founders and the US?

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  13. genferei Member
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    Claire Berlinski, Ed.:

    Turkey was a part of Europe … that in the past had been highly significant European theater of war.

    The extremely distant past, perhaps.

    Gallipoli doesn’t count.

    Wow. Is that “extremely distant past” to you?

    On the contrary. It was the only thing I could think of after the Crusades. Which I consider to be “extremely distant” in the context of this discussion.

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  14. genferei Member
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    Claire Berlinski, Ed.:

    Chapters the rest: Erodogan, Putin, conspiracy, the EU can’t work, but nations must dissolve themselves in common purpose or else. What. Ever. It’s not exactly Dan Brown, although similarly plotted.

    In ten years’ time, that “What. Ever” is going to end up with all those reviews that said I was mad to think anything was amiss in Paradise Europe.

    We agree there are problems. Serious problems. We disagree as to what is the more pressing/important problem. And we disagree as to whether nationalism or transnationalism is a root cause of the problems. I’ll still buy the book (:

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  15. Tenacious D Inactive
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    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: Boy, the publishing industry’s in trouble. This was drag-and-drop, I just chose a photo and added my title and name, and it spit this right out. I loved it, too, and honestly: I think it looks as good as most covers I see in bookstores.

    French bookstores or American bookstores?

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  16. genferei Member
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    Tenacious D:

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: I think it looks as good as most covers I see in bookstores.

    French bookstores or American bookstores?

    There are still bookstores?

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  17. Eric Hines Inactive
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    Claire Berlinski, Ed.:

    Ansonia: Also, I hope the picture with this post is your book cover. I love it.

    Really? I do too! I’ve been amusing myself by playing with all the free cover creator programs out there. Boy, the publishing industry’s in trouble. This was drag-and-drop, I just chose a photo and added my title and name, and it spit this right out. I loved it, too, and honestly: I think it looks as good as most covers I see in bookstores.

    Just be sure that you took/own the image or that it’s in the public domain.

    That is a good cover, though.

    Eric Hines

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  18. Larry3435 Inactive
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    genferei:

    Tenacious D:

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: I think it looks as good as most covers I see in bookstores.

    French bookstores or American bookstores?

    There are still bookstores?

    You got me curious with that question, so I typed book stores into Bing maps.  There actually are quite a few, but they tend to be specialty or used book stores.  You might try it for your area.  It’s kind of interesting.

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  19. I Walton Member
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    Claire Berlinski, Ed.:

    I don’t know why. Something’s going on here that I didn’t predict. I need to figure out what it is, because obviously, whatever it is, we could use some of it.

    Rapid change from any source gives rise to cultural stresses and erosions.  So economic and technological stagnation may help avoid the disintegration, but demographic change should work in the other direction.  Are immigrants isolated or integrated?   How have the French dealt with external competition and deindustrialization if that is important there as well as here?  Does the way they give welfare erode families and traditional values as happens here or actually help?   Then there’s French homogenetiy and our impossible heterogeneity that work for or against cultural stability.   Are families strong?   My experience in Colombia and efforts to try to get my mind around the Violencia there, and Marcos’ Philippines during its transition  tell me your task is formidable and those are simpler places not part of  even more complex arrangements that matter greatly to the world order you’re looking at.    I served in opposite types of places as well, Portugal and Japan, extremely homogeneous places of great stability.  I wonder how Portugal is doing now with all the demographic and economic changes.  Japan managed cultural and family stability even as it grew by double digits, but they’re unique in so many ways.

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  20. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Claire Berlinski, Ed.:

    Ansonia: Also, I hope the picture with this post is your book cover. I love it.

    Really? I do too! I’ve been amusing myself by playing with all the free cover creator programs out there. Boy, the publishing industry’s in trouble. This was drag-and-drop, I just chose a photo and added my title and name, and it spit this right out. I loved it, too, and honestly: I think it looks as good as most covers I see in bookstores.

    I thought the same thing – its very intriguing –

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  21. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Speaking of bookstores and printed copy, if there is good success as an eBook, is it easier to find a publisher to offer hardback copy, and is this a possibility here?

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  22. St. Salieri Member
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    Claire Berlinski, Ed.:

    St. Salieri: Strangely, part of the answer is in the works of Anatole France

    Do you mean in his literary works, or in his connection to l’affaire Dreyfus? (Maybe I should actually try reading his work. I don’t think I’ve ever read more than was required to pass the test, and that was 30-odd years ago.)

    Both, but especially his fiction, I think Joseph Conrad touches on it as well.

    There is a sense of the disconnect, a bipolar view of the past of European Christendom, well before the horrors of WWI, and also of the relationship between the non-European world and the European, and it is a very telling.  Also, as in The Gods are Athirst, and The Secret Agent, I don’t think these novels, especially France’s was about the past or present, but the world to come.

    France’s Dreyfus writings is also prescient, but even in his novels about the past, and the world weary cynics and frauds there is a deeper disease lurking, and strangely in his anti-clericism, I find a profound religiosity behind it all, and in that I think is part of the key.

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  23. Ansonia Member
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  24. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Member
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    Front Seat Cat:Speaking of bookstores and printed copy, if there is good success as an eBook, is it easier to find a publisher to offer hardback copy, and is this a possibility here?

    Probably not, because then I’d have already undercut the value of it. If I want to go the conventional publishing route, I should approach publishers with the idea now. But I don’t want to: Unless they thought the idea was worth a huge advance (and they won’t), I think I can do better on my own.

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  25. Eric Hines Inactive
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    Claire Berlinski, Ed.:

    Front Seat Cat:Speaking of bookstores and printed copy, if there is good success as an eBook, is it easier to find a publisher to offer hardback copy, and is this a possibility here?

    Probably not, because then I’d have already undercut the value of it. If I want to go the conventional publishing route, I should approach publishers with the idea now. But I don’t want to: Unless they thought the idea was worth a huge advance (and they won’t), I think I can do better on my own.

    A few years ago (of course things might have evolved since then) when I looked into traditional publishing vs self-publishing via eBooks, there existed a Catch-22.  The print publishers would look at eBook sales as a measure of print publishability: enough eBook sales implied a marketable print product, but too much eBook sales implied a saturated market for the book.

    Naturally, no one was willing to hazard a guess about how much eBook sales was “just right.”

    Eric Hines

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