NRO Standing Athwart Trumpism

 

NR-Against-TrumpNational Review, the venerable conservative institution founded by William F. Buckley, has just released an unprecedented special issue titled “Against Trump.”

Editor Rich Lowry reached out to a wide variety of conservative writers to register their disagreement with the GOP frontrunner. Authors include Thomas Sowell, William Kristol, Glenn Beck, Erick Erickson, and of course NR’s editors who prefaced the issue with a blistering editorial:

Donald Trump leads the polls nationally and in most states in the race for the Republican presidential nomination. There are understandable reasons for his eminence, and he has shown impressive gut-level skill as a campaigner. But he is not deserving of conservative support in the caucuses and primaries. Trump is a philosophically unmoored political opportunist who would trash the broad conservative ideological consensus within the GOP in favor of a free-floating populism with strong-man overtones.

Trump’s political opinions have wobbled all over the lot. The real-estate mogul and reality-TV star has supported abortion, gun control, single-payer health care à la Canada, and punitive taxes on the wealthy. (He and Bernie Sanders have shared more than funky outer-borough accents.) Since declaring his candidacy he has taken a more conservative line, yet there are great gaping holes in it…

Donald Trump is a menace to American conservatism. Trump nevertheless offers a valuable warning for the Republican party. If responsible men irresponsibly ignore an issue as important as immigration, it will be taken up by the reckless. If they cannot explain their Beltway maneuvers — worse, if their maneuvering is indefensible — they will be rejected by their own voters. If they cannot advance a compelling working-class agenda, the legitimate anxieties and discontents of blue-collar voters will be exploited by demagogues. We sympathize with many of the complaints of Trump supporters about the GOP, but that doesn’t make the mogul any less flawed a vessel for them.

What do you think, Ricochetti? Will this issue make self-described conservatives think twice about supporting Trump, or will it only fuel their contempt for inside-the-Beltway thinking?

Published in General
Like this post? Want to comment? Join Ricochet’s community of conservatives and be part of the conversation. Join Ricochet for Free.

There are 172 comments.

Become a member to join the conversation. Or sign in if you're already a member.
  1. Herbert Member
    Herbert
    @Herbert

     

    Brian Watt: It’s your Frankenstein monster, Trump supporters. You built it. Now let’s watch what happens.

    yep, Limbaugh and Levin were to cute by half (there is no way that I can be convinced that they didn’t know the real nature of Trump).   Supporting Trump and his anti-establishment ramblings.  Thinking that surely Trump will falter.   Well guess what boys…. we as a nation will suffer the consequences…

    • #121
  2. BuckeyeSam Inactive
    BuckeyeSam
    @BuckeyeSam

    satchelpaige:Today, I made (for me) a significant donation to National Review.

    This is about principle or it isn’t. NR isn’t perfect, but it’s stepped into the breach to stand up for important ideals when others are running in the other direction. That makes them not just a 60 year old journal of conservative thought and debate, but a champion of principle when that seems to have become old hat.

    Join me if you can. They deserve it.

    You’re on your own. I let my subscription run out after little Jason Lee Steorts’s piece in favor of same-sex marriage last summer.

    They’ve been far too easy on Rubio for my tastes. After Rubio-Schumer, Rubio shouldn’t have even been part of any conservative conversation. Legalization of all illegals followed either by path to citizenship or by almost immediate naturalization, and we have a one-party state. There were many unforgivable sins in the Rubio-Schumer monstrosity, but one of the worst was moving the task of assimilation from within the federal bureaucracy to a number of nonprofits that invariably would be left to hard-left. And they’d receive funding in perpetuity with no Congressional oversight. I’ll pass on Rubio.

    • #122
  3. Bob Laing Member
    Bob Laing
    @

    For Trump supporters, it’s largely about immigration.

    Speaking for myself, there are three litmus tests a candidate must pass to get my vote:

    1. They must advocate for and defend capitalism and free market economics.
    2. They must show a strong commitment to 2nd amendment rights.
    3. They must be pro-life.

    Trump is very questionable on number 1 and outright fails on numbers 2 and 3.  Simply put, I cannot vote for him in a primary where better options exist.

    • #123
  4. Sowell for President Member
    Sowell for President
    @

    rebark: Conservatives have many valid grievances with the way that the captains of the USS Republican Party have treated them. Yet supporting Trump is not the mutiny that we need.

    You’ll get no argument from me on this point.  I am and always have been deeply opposed to Trump and thought from the beginning he should have been a laughingstock.

    My point was a bit different.  I was trying to explain how the misled conservatives among his supporters might be weaned away.  I wasn’t trying to argue that they are not misled.

    Ace of Spades has offered his own explanation of the motivations of conservative supporters of Trump, by the way.

    I’ll be very interested in the rhetorical and tactical moves Cruz makes in these last days before the IA caucus and NH primary.

    • #124
  5. James Glade Inactive
    James Glade
    @JamesGlade

    Was so disappointed to see Sowell’s name on this list.  Like many I imagine, I was inducted into conservative thinking with his books and hoover interviews with Peter Robinson.  It was even more disappointing to see him engage in an amateur psych evaluation of Trump,  with the inevitable devolution to godwin.

    • #125
  6. TKC1101 Member
    TKC1101
    @

    Herbert: we as a nation will suffer the consequences

    I suffered through JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter , Clinton and W. I can handle a guy from Queens.   Just keep the Chicago people out. That one nearly took us out.

    • #126
  7. Paul Dougherty Member
    Paul Dougherty
    @PaulDougherty

    I take it, National Review has opted out of the sackcloth option.

    • #127
  8. Naudious Inactive
    Naudious
    @Stoicous

    Resolved: Donald Trump is the Least Conservative Candidate with the Worst Chances of Winning

    • #128
  9. Whiskey Sam Inactive
    Whiskey Sam
    @WhiskeySam

    Naudious:Resolved: Donald Trump is the Least Conservative Candidate with the Worst Chances of Winning

    That doesn’t follow.  He isn’t conservative, but the disproportionate reaction to his surprisingly resilient candidacy is the growing realization that he may very well win.

    • #129
  10. Johnny Dubya Inactive
    Johnny Dubya
    @JohnnyDubya

    Trump’s response was typically Trumpian.  As John Fund notes:

    In attacking National Review, Trump manages to call us “a dying paper” not once but several times. Er, NR has been a magazine for over 60 years.

    Trump’s response to criticism is always ad hominem – to assert that the critic is somehow a “loser,” “dying,” or (if a competitor for the nomination) floundering in the polls.  He does not address the substance of NR’s criticism, and I suspect that is because he hasn’t even read it.  He certainly hasn’t read NR in the past, because he evidently thinks it’s a newspaper.

    Can you imagine a conservative Republican running for the presidential nomination who is unfamiliar with NR?  One might almost conclude that such a person is not a true conservative and/or a political lightweight.

    Trump went on to say that William F. Buckley would have been “ashamed” of NR’s anti-Trump cover.  I doubt that Trump has much of an idea what WFB stood for or might stand for today.  As Fund points out:

    [I]n 2000 Buckley wrote a great column for Cigar Aficionado slamming Trump as a “demagogue” and “narcissist.” I don’t think he was a fan then; does anyone think Trump has changed his style since?

    • #130
  11. Johnny Dubya Inactive
    Johnny Dubya
    @JohnnyDubya

    William F. Buckley, Jr. on Donald J. Trump:

    What about the aspirant who has a private vision to offer to the public and has the means, personal or contrived, to finance a campaign? In some cases, the vision isn’t merely a program to be adopted. It is a program that includes the visionary’s serving as President. Look for the narcissist. The most obvious target in today’s lineup is, of course, Donald Trump. When he looks at a glass, he is mesmerized by its reflection. If Donald Trump were shaped a little differently, he would compete for Miss America. But whatever the depths of self-enchantment, the demagogue has to say something. So what does Trump say? That he is a successful businessman and that that is what America needs in the Oval Office. There is some plausibility in this, though not much. The greatest deeds of American Presidents — midwifing the new republic; freeing the slaves; harnessing the energies and vision needed to win the Cold War — had little to do with a bottom line.

    …[W]e have no substitute for relying on the voter to exercise a quiet veto when it becomes more necessary to discourage cynical demagogy, than to advance free health for the kids. That can come later, in another venue; the resistance to a corrupting demagogy should take first priority.

    • #131
  12. Johnny Dubya Inactive
    Johnny Dubya
    @JohnnyDubya

    Naudious:Resolved: Donald Trump is the Least Conservative Candidate with the Worst Chances of Winning

    Nice: the inverse of the Buckley Doctrine.

    • #132
  13. Naudious Inactive
    Naudious
    @Stoicous

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:Resolved: Donald Trump is the Least Conservative Candidate with the Worst Chances of Winning

    That doesn’t follow. He isn’t conservative, but the disproportionate reaction to his surprisingly resilient candidacy is the growing realization that he may very well win.

    Winning the 270 Electors in the General Election is a very different undertaking than winning the Republican Nomination. Remember, he only has a plurality of Republicans, the General Election requires a majority of Americans. And I have my suspicions of a Third-Party in 2016.

    • #133
  14. Douglas Inactive
    Douglas
    @Douglas

    James Glade: It was even more disappointing to see him engage in an amateur psych evaluation of Trump, with the inevitable devolution to godwin.

    Oh, it’s getting worse over there. National Review… the magazine where William F. Buckley blew his stack after Gore Vidal called him a crypto-Nazi, that NR just openly suggested that the GOP frontrunner is… a crypto-Nazi.

    Many folks on Twitter emphasize, “Retweets aren’t endorsements.” We sure hope so.

    Surrrrrre you do, Jim.

    • #134
  15. Whiskey Sam Inactive
    Whiskey Sam
    @WhiskeySam

    Naudious:

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:Resolved: Donald Trump is the Least Conservative Candidate with the Worst Chances of Winning

    That doesn’t follow. He isn’t conservative, but the disproportionate reaction to his surprisingly resilient candidacy is the growing realization that he may very well win.

    Winning the 270 Electors in the General Election is a very different undertaking than winning the Republican Nomination. Remember, he only has a plurality of Republicans, the General Election requires a majority of Americans. And I have my suspicions of a Third-Party in 2016.

    By definition, the candidate leading in the polls is not the least likely to win.  You’re claiming that a dozen other candidates who can’t even crack double digits in the polls for their own party’s nomination all have a better chance of winning.  That makes no sense.

    • #135
  16. Naudious Inactive
    Naudious
    @Stoicous

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:Resolved: Donald Trump is the Least Conservative Candidate with the Worst Chances of Winning

    That doesn’t follow. He isn’t conservative, but the disproportionate reaction to his surprisingly resilient candidacy is the growing realization that he may very well win.

    Winning the 270 Electors in the General Election is a very different undertaking than winning the Republican Nomination. Remember, he only has a plurality of Republicans, the General Election requires a majority of Americans. And I have my suspicions of a Third-Party in 2016.

    By definition, the candidate leading in the polls is not the least likely to win. You’re claiming that a dozen other candidates who can’t even crack double digits in the polls for their own party’s nomination all have a better chance of winning. That makes no sense.

    Trump has the highest negatives of any candidate. Meaning those who don’t support him are more likely to vote against him if he wins. As opposed to the other candidates, who may not be a lot of people’s first-choice, but will still get their votes if they win the nomination.

    • #136
  17. Whiskey Sam Inactive
    Whiskey Sam
    @WhiskeySam

    Naudious:

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:Resolved: Donald Trump is the Least Conservative Candidate with the Worst Chances of Winning

    That doesn’t follow. He isn’t conservative, but the disproportionate reaction to his surprisingly resilient candidacy is the growing realization that he may very well win.

    Winning the 270 Electors in the General Election is a very different undertaking than winning the Republican Nomination. Remember, he only has a plurality of Republicans, the General Election requires a majority of Americans. And I have my suspicions of a Third-Party in 2016.

    By definition, the candidate leading in the polls is not the least likely to win. You’re claiming that a dozen other candidates who can’t even crack double digits in the polls for their own party’s nomination all have a better chance of winning. That makes no sense.

    Trump has the highest negatives of any candidate. Meaning those who don’t support him are more likely to vote against him if he wins. As opposed to the other candidates, who may not be a lot of people’s first-choice, but will still get their votes if they win the nomination.

    None of which proves he is least likely to win.  Simply asserting something doesn’t make it so.  I don’t care for Trump, but this continual dismissal of him that refuses to take his candidacy seriously is exactly why the GOP now finds itself in the position of potentially being saddled with him as its nominee.

    • #137
  18. Tom Wilson Inactive
    Tom Wilson
    @TomWilson

    I’m so pleased with National Review’s stand against Trump that I sent them $100.00 this morning. This election is an indication that conservatives have to do better at explaining and promoting the principles that unite us.

    • #138
  19. Sowell for President Member
    Sowell for President
    @

    Johnny Dubya: William F. Buckley, Jr. on Donald J. Trump:

    Johnny – You should post the entire column by WFB in the member feed.  It should be promoted to the main feed.  I wonder why I haven’t seen the column before; it’s an excellent find.

    • #139
  20. Naudious Inactive
    Naudious
    @Stoicous

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:Resolved: Donald Trump is the Least Conservative Candidate with the Worst Chances of Winning

    ————————–

    ——————————-

     And I have my suspicions of a Third-Party in 2016.

    By definition, the candidate leading the polls is not the least likely to win.

    ————————————————

    That makes no sense.

    ——————————————————–

    As opposed to the other candidates, who may not be a lot of people’s first-choice, but will still get their votes if they win the nomination.

    None of which proves he is least likely to win. Simply asserting something doesn’t make it so. I don’t care for Trump, but this continual dismissal of him that refuses to take his candidacy seriously is exactly why the GOP now finds itself in the position of potentially being saddled with him as its nominee.

    He can’t win the election because in the process of gaining his plurality in the GOP with populists, he has isolated everyone else. Millennials, Hispanics, women and other minorities simply aren’t going to give him the light of day. On top of that, a lot of Republicans will probably jump ship if he is the nominee (I won’t vote for him).

    Compare that to other candidates, who still have a chance of getting some non-republican voters, and who won’t face defections.

    • #140
  21. The Reticulator Member
    The Reticulator
    @TheReticulator

    Umbra Fractus: The one thing I’ve learned in the past six months or so is that a large portion of the “conservative base” sees conservative as more of an identity than an ideology.

    It has always been so.  Same with the other side.

    The Cultural Cognition project at Yale has data showing how it works, mainly with the climate issue.

    • #141
  22. The Reticulator Member
    The Reticulator
    @TheReticulator

    Naudious: the General Election requires a majority of Americans. 

    That’s a Democrat idea. I prefer the Constitutional method.

    • #142
  23. Whiskey Sam Inactive
    Whiskey Sam
    @WhiskeySam

    Naudious:

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:Resolved: Donald Trump is the Least Conservative Candidate with the Worst Chances of Winning

    ————————–

    ——————————-

    And I have my suspicions of a Third-Party in 2016.

    By definition, the candidate leading the polls is not the least likely to win.

    ————————————————

    That makes no sense.

    ——————————————————–

    As opposed to the other candidates, who may not be a lot of people’s first-choice, but will still get their votes if they win the nomination.

    None of which proves he is least likely to win. Simply asserting something doesn’t make it so. I don’t care for Trump, but this continual dismissal of him that refuses to take his candidacy seriously is exactly why the GOP now finds itself in the position of potentially being saddled with him as its nominee.

    He can’t win the election because in the process of gaining his plurality in the GOP with populists, he has isolated everyone else. Millennials, Hispanics, women and other minorities simply aren’t going to give him the light of day. On top of that, a lot of Republicans will probably jump ship if he is the nominee (I won’t vote for him).

    Compare that to other candidates, who still have a chance of getting some non-republican voters, and who won’t face defections.

    So now we’ve moved from least likely to can’t.  It still doesn’t change the fact the making assertions doesn’t make them facts.  The widespread panic about a Trump presidency proves quite a few people are convinced he can win which is why they’re so vocal against him.  Just because you won’t vote for him doesn’t mean he can’t win.

    • #143
  24. Naudious Inactive
    Naudious
    @Stoicous

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:

    ————————————————

    That makes no sense.

    ——————————————————–

    As opposed to the other candidates, who may not be a lot of people’s first-choice, but will still get their votes if they win the nomination.

    None of which proves he is least likely to win. Simply asserting something doesn’t make it so. I don’t care for Trump, but this continual dismissal of him that refuses to take his candidacy seriously is exactly why the GOP now finds itself in the position of potentially being saddled with him as its nominee.

    ——————————————————–

    Compare that to other candidates, who still have a chance of getting some non-republican voters, and who won’t face defections.

    So now we’ve moved from least likely to can’t. It still doesn’t change the fact the making assertions doesn’t make them facts. The widespread panic about a Trump presidency proves quite a few people are convinced he can win which is why they’re so vocal against him. Just because you won’t vote for him doesn’t mean he can’t win.

    A lot of people won’t vote for him. He may have some very happy voters, but they can’t vote twice.

    Let me put it this way. There is a reason Democrats have tried to paint Republicans as Stupid Xenophobic Billionaires with Narcissism issues (See: The Colbert Report).

    • #144
  25. Whiskey Sam Inactive
    Whiskey Sam
    @WhiskeySam

    Naudious:

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:

    ————————————————

    That makes no sense.

    ——————————————————–

    As opposed to the other candidates, who may not be a lot of people’s first-choice, but will still get their votes if they win the nomination.

    None of which proves he is least likely to win. Simply asserting something doesn’t make it so. I don’t care for Trump, but this continual dismissal of him that refuses to take his candidacy seriously is exactly why the GOP now finds itself in the position of potentially being saddled with him as its nominee.

    ——————————————————–

    Compare that to other candidates, who still have a chance of getting some non-republican voters, and who won’t face defections.

    So now we’ve moved from least likely to can’t. It still doesn’t change the fact the making assertions doesn’t make them facts. The widespread panic about a Trump presidency proves quite a few people are convinced he can win which is why they’re so vocal against him. Just because you won’t vote for him doesn’t mean he can’t win.

    A lot of people won’t vote for him. He may have some very happy voters, but they can’t vote twice.

    Let me put it this way. There is a reason Democrats have tried to paint Republicans as Stupid Xenophobic Billionaires with Narcissism issues (See: The Colbert Report).

    And several months ago the same people who are telling us he can’t win were telling us his run would fizzle out when he got bored so there was nothing to worry about because there was no way he could win the nomination.  Oops.

    • #145
  26. Naudious Inactive
    Naudious
    @Stoicous

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:

    Whiskey Sam:

    Naudious:

    ————————————————

    That makes no sense.

    ——————————————————–

    As opposed to the other candidates, who may not be a lot of people’s first-choice, but will still get their votes if they win the nomination.

    None of which proves he is least likely to win. Simply asserting something doesn’t make it so. I don’t care for Trump, but this continual dismissal of him that refuses to take his candidacy seriously is exactly why the GOP now finds itself in the position of potentially being saddled with him as its nominee.

    ——————————————————–

    Compare that to other candidates, who still have a chance of getting some non-republican voters, and who won’t face defections.

    ————————————————

    A lot of people won’t vote for him. He may have some very happy voters, but they can’t vote twice.

    Let me put it this way. There is a reason Democrats have tried to paint Republicans as Stupid Xenophobic Billionaires with Narcissism issues (See: The Colbert Report).

    And several months ago the same people who are telling us he can’t win were telling us his run would fizzle out when he got bored so there was nothing to worry about because there was no way he could win the nomination. Oops.

    Then maybe he should run for President of Mexico too, if us thinking it’s impossible will give Donald the power to make it happen.

    • #146
  27. Homer Member
    Homer
    @Homer

    Bernie would be… Bernie, ’nuff said.

    Hillary should be locked up (Scooter went in for far less).

    So ‘The Donald’ would be better than either of them right?

    No, because even if he was nominally “better”, what little indications there are point towards him further shaking loose the underpinnings of our constitutional/separation-of-powers government (ala B.O) and the Republicans wouldn’t have a leg to stand on after that.

    I expect the response to this will be that it doesn’t matter, there already is nothing holding back the Dem’s from doing whatever they want, constitution be damned.  To this I respond… good point.

    • #147
  28. Brian Watt Inactive
    Brian Watt
    @BrianWatt

    What Mr. Klavan just said over at PJ Media.

    • #148
  29. Whiskey Sam Inactive
    Whiskey Sam
    @WhiskeySam

    Brian Watt:What Mr. Klavan just said over at PJ Media.

    Do you listen to his podcast?  I’ve thought he has a better handle on this whole thing than anyone else I’ve heard.  He understands the Trump phenomenon without belittling his followers, yet he’s still clear-eyed about what Trump really is.

    • #149
  30. Brian Watt Inactive
    Brian Watt
    @BrianWatt

    Whiskey Sam:

    Brian Watt:What Mr. Klavan just said over at PJ Media.

    Do you listen to his podcast? I’ve thought he has a better handle on this whole thing than anyone else I’ve heard. He understands the Trump phenomenon without belittling his followers, yet he’s still clear-eyed about what Trump really is.

    Not yet but I’ll check it out. Thanks.

    • #150
Become a member to join the conversation. Or sign in if you're already a member.