What Advice Would You Give Your Friends and Family From your Career Experiences?

 

A friend had a very trying day at work and posted some advice based on what she had seen. I got to thinking about it, and while my professions and careers are hardly matters of life and death, I realized that I had similar advice for people. I am sure we all do, whatever our profession or job. I am not seeking the level of information in some of our posts like Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Concrete* (But Were Afraid To Ask). It’s simply a request for pithy advice from the front lines of working.

I used to program computers, and when I started my first consulting firm I offered some computer-related services. Advice I rapidly found had to be given was, “Don’t go on the Internet if you don’t have anti-virus software.”

As a process management guy, my advice is, “Don’t bother documenting them if you don’t know how you’re going to use that documentation to change things.” Also, “Don’t expect most of your people to have any idea what those diagrams mean unless they are engineers and you have given a class in reading them.”

So, what do you have, Ricochet?

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  1. Jojo Inactive
    Jojo
    @TheDowagerJojo

    My advice- if you have the choice, do not hire a contractor on the basis of lowest cost.  Do not depend on drawings and specifications and inspections alone to get the job done correctly; you can have a set of specifications a foot thick and it will not cover everything,  and you do not want to be in the position of trying to enforce it if it were not followed.  A relationship of mutual trust and a good track record are far better predictors of success.  The concept applies to consultants, doctors, lawyers, etc. also.

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  2. Owen Petard Inactive
    Owen Petard
    @OwenPetard

    As a general contractor my advice is…

    Pay your vendors and subcontractors promptly. They totally love that.

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  3. Jojo Inactive
    Jojo
    @TheDowagerJojo

    Ball Diamond Ball:Condensed version of my patented four-point “getting out of the military” speech:

    1. Go to school. Just go. The money will come. I had a girlfriend who told me this when I was a very poor very young very junior enlisted guy. I pooh-poohed her advice, but you know what? She was right. If not, you can always go back later.
    2. Go to school. See all those idiots? No two of them can pass each other in an eight foot wide hallway without bumping into each other for sheer idiocy. They’re doing fine. You can do college standing on your head. The challenge is refraining from strangling the idiots. Endeavor to persevere.
    3. “Hiring hookups” is not a bad thing — it’s the way the real world works, and to everybody’s benefit.[…] If I know you and I know the job, then my recommendation works for everybody.
    4. The want ad describes a person who will NEVER walk through the door. Look around. See all these idiots? That’s your competition. Put on a tie, walk in there, and tell the guy that you’re not sure what all that stuff is, but you know how to stick to a tough job and you’ve proven that you can be trained.

    Nobody believes this until they try it. They thank me years later.

    This is great.  Do I have to wear a tie though?

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  4. Ball Diamond Ball Member
    Ball Diamond Ball
    @BallDiamondBall

    Jojo:

    Ball Diamond Ball:Condensed version of my patented four-point “getting out of the military” speech:

    1. Go to school. Just go. The money will come. I had a girlfriend who told me this when I was a very poor very young very junior enlisted guy. I pooh-poohed her advice, but you know what? She was right. If not, you can always go back later.
    2. Go to school. See all those idiots? No two of them can pass each other in an eight foot wide hallway without bumping into each other for sheer idiocy. They’re doing fine. You can do college standing on your head. The challenge is refraining from strangling the idiots. Endeavor to persevere.
    3. “Hiring hookups” is not a bad thing — it’s the way the real world works, and to everybody’s benefit.[…] If I know you and I know the job, then my recommendation works for everybody.
    4. The want ad describes a person who will NEVER walk through the door. Look around. See all these idiots? That’s your competition. Put on a tie, walk in there, and tell the guy that you’re not sure what all that stuff is, but you know how to stick to a tough job and you’ve proven that you can be trained.

    Nobody believes this until they try it. They thank me years later.

    This is great. Do I have to wear a tie though?

    Naw.  The less the better.  :-0

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  5. Jordan Wiegand Inactive
    Jordan Wiegand
    @Jordan

    Avoid using reply all.

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  6. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Owen Petard:As a general contractor my advice is…

    Pay your vendors and subcontractors promptly. They totally love that.

    This reminds me of another piece of advice: tip well. People in service positions will definitely respond with excellent service if you are known as a good tipper. Generally a good tip does not cost you that much, but it makes a big difference to the other person.

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  7. Doug Watt Member
    Doug Watt
    @DougWatt

    Stay out of dark alleys at night.

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  8. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
    CB Toder aka Mama Toad
    @CBToderakaMamaToad

    Casey:

    CB Toder aka Mama Toad:Working for money is not the same as being pimped.

    Very true. That’s why I didn’t say pimped

    Do you think there are lots of entrepreneurial whores? I don’t.

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  9. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Doug Watt:Stay out of dark alleys at night.

    Not to mention having your back to a wall in restaurants where you can see everyone who comes in.

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  10. Austin Murrey Inactive
    Austin Murrey
    @AustinMurrey

    Major in math – your pocketbook will thank me later.

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  11. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Austin Murrey:Major in math – your pocketbook will thank me later.

    Does that include pure math?

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  12. Vance Richards Inactive
    Vance Richards
    @VanceRichards

    If you want more money, ask for it. Don’t assume doing a good job will get you a raise.

    And if you are going to ask for more money, you better be able to show your boss how you helped the company make more money. Don’t talk about what you did. Talk about how the things you did helped the bottom line (include real numbers).

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  13. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist
    @WesternChauvinist

    I just want to say one word to you. One word. Are you listening?….

    Plastics.

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  14. Austin Murrey Inactive
    Austin Murrey
    @AustinMurrey

    Arahant:

    Austin Murrey:Major in math – your pocketbook will thank me later.

    Does that include pure math?

    Absolutely – you’d be shocked how badly everyone in finance wants math majors of any kind.

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  15. Casey Inactive
    Casey
    @Casey

    CB Toder aka Mama Toad:

    Casey:

    CB Toder aka Mama Toad:Working for money is not the same as being pimped.

    Very true. That’s why I didn’t say pimped

    Do you think there are lots of entrepreneurial whores? I don’t.

    I don’t either.

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  16. Jojo Inactive
    Jojo
    @TheDowagerJojo

    Ball Diamond Ball:

    Jojo:

    This is great. Do I have to wear a tie though?

    Naw. The less the better. :-0

    Hmmm.  This advice plants some doubt about your judgment……might stick with the tie :)

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  17. HeartofAmerica Inactive
    HeartofAmerica
    @HeartofAmerica

    Jordan Wiegand:Avoid using reply all.

    Amen!

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  18. Z in MT Member
    Z in MT
    @ZinMT

    Jojo:My advice- if you have the choice, do not hire a contractor on the basis of lowest cost. Do not depend on drawings and specifications and inspections alone to get the job done correctly; you can have a set of specifications a foot thick and it will not cover everything, and you do not want to be in the position of trying to enforce it if it were not followed. A relationship of mutual trust and a good track record are far better predictors of success. The concept applies to consultants, doctors, lawyers, etc. also.

    And don’t get on your contractor’s bad side or they will build to specification – and you will get what you deserve.

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  19. Ed G. Member
    Ed G.
    @EdG

    Pony Convertible:Those, that, talk, smile and laugh but have marginal performance will get more recognition than the quiet, but excellent, performer. You have to toot your own horn.

    Yes, even most well-meaning and competent bosses will simply not notice and value your commitment and success to the degree you imagine it to be obvious for anyone who wants to look. Toot away, modestly.

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  20. HeartofAmerica Inactive
    HeartofAmerica
    @HeartofAmerica
    1. Is it important? Decide whether this is a hill you want to die on. Sleep on it.
    2. Choose your friends and enemies at work carefully.
    3. Carefully choose who you align yourself with. Today’s star could be out the door quickly.
    4. Don’t burn bridges. Bosses go up and down the ladder at any given time.
    5. Add value and show that you add value.
    6. Be the utility player. Put me wherever you need me, coach.
    7. Have a contingency plan, whether it’s related to a project, the job, or in life…always have a back-up plan.
    8. Have a best friend at work. It sure makes the day go by a lot faster.
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  21. Ed G. Member
    Ed G.
    @EdG

    Vance Richards:If you want more money, ask for it. Don’t assume doing a good job will get you a raise.

    And if you are going to ask for more money, you better be able to show your boss how you helped the company make more money. Don’t talk about what you did. Talk about how the things you did helped the bottom line (include real numbers).

    Yes, tie performance to bottom line, but don’t refrain from asking just because you can’t point to a 2% decrease in costs or a 1.5% increase in revenue. Not all positions have that kind of direct or easily quantifiable impact.

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  22. Ed G. Member
    Ed G.
    @EdG

    Avoid assignments where responsibility does not come with the requisite authority. If you don’t have the authority to fulfill your responsibility, then “responsibility” is not the right word and it’s a recipe for disaster for you. Either seek the authority or find a way to ditch the responsibility.

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  23. Ed G. Member
    Ed G.
    @EdG

    Casey:

    CB Toder aka Mama Toad:

    Casey:

    CB Toder aka Mama Toad:Working for money is not the same as being pimped.

    Very true. That’s why I didn’t say pimped

    Do you think there are lots of entrepreneurial whores? I don’t.

    I don’t either.

    Let’s not get caught up in the metaphor too much. Casey’s point has merit: we’re selling our talent and effort for money, let’s not make more of it than what it is. If you are one of the lucky ones where this transaction lines up with and supports other life goals/interests then good on you, but my experience is that this favored group is pretty small.

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  24. Midget Faded Rattlesnake Member
    Midget Faded Rattlesnake
    @Midge

    Ball Diamond Ball:Quit any job you don’t enjoy, as soon as you can. Sooner, depending upon how much you don’t enjoy it.

    Surprising advice to hear from a conservative. I’m not saying it’s a bad surprise. I just expect more “no pain, no gain”, “in this world, we must suffer for what we earn”, and so on. More of the tough-guy stuff and less focus on stuff like enjoyment – or heaven help us, that dirty word “fulfillment”.

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  25. Fricosis Guy Listener
    Fricosis Guy
    @FricosisGuy

    Don’t expect keen negotiation of contract terms to prevent a broken customer/vendor relationship. If those contract terms are needed to compel performance, the relationship is already broken.

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  26. Ed G. Member
    Ed G.
    @EdG

    Midget Faded Rattlesnake:

    Ball Diamond Ball:Quit any job you don’t enjoy, as soon as you can. Sooner, depending upon how much you don’t enjoy it.

    Surprising advice to hear from a conservative. I’m not saying it’s a bad surprise. I just expect more “no pain, no gain”, “in this world, we must suffer for what we earn”, and so on. More of the tough-guy stuff and less focus on stuff like enjoyment – or heaven help us, that dirty word “fulfillment”.

    That depends on whether or not the crappy job has a bigger payoff within a reasonable timeframe. If not, then move on right quick. However, if the pain is truly a springboard then go ahead and stick it out.

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  27. Bartholomew Xerxes Ogilvie, Jr. Coolidge
    Bartholomew Xerxes Ogilvie, Jr.
    @BartholomewXerxesOgilvieJr
    • When asked to do something, take ownership. Don’t say “Well, I’ll try”; even if you have doubts, say “Consider it done.” If you fail, you fail; hedging your bets in advance won’t make a difference. But your boss will remember that when he asks you to take care of something, he can then stop worrying about it. He has other fires to put out.
    • Don’t get hung up on the perceived prestige of your assignment. Instead, show that you care about doing your job, whatever it is, as well as you possibly can. That’s what gets noticed.
    • To be a leader, you don’t have to be the best at something. You just have to be the one who’s willing to step up and lead.

    Interestingly, most of this stuff I learned not in my professional career, but back in my college years, working summers at an amusement park. In terms of preparing me for my career, that experience was much more valuable to me than either of my college degrees.

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  28. Midget Faded Rattlesnake Member
    Midget Faded Rattlesnake
    @Midge

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: What separates “talented writers” from `’people who can support themselves by writing” is the latter’s ability to say something coherent and readable every single day — even when they don’t feel like saying anything at all, or indeed have nothing all that interesting to say on any given day.

    I don’t mean to be impertinent here – because I agree with your advice. But how does one manage writing what one secretly suspects is often just “noise pollution” day after day without shame?

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  29. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Midget Faded Rattlesnake: But how does one manage writing what one secretly suspects is often just “noise pollution” day after day without shame?

    Who says it is without shame? A hack is a hack, but a well-fed hack is better than a starving artist. It is a trade-off.

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  30. Ed G. Member
    Ed G.
    @EdG

    Bartholomew Xerxes Ogilvie, Jr.:[…..]Interestingly, most of this stuff I learned not in my professional career, but back in my college years, working summers at an amusement park. In terms of preparing me for my career, that experience was much more valuable to me than either of my college degrees.

    For me the training ground was working summers at Boy Scout summer camp.

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