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  1. Marion Evans Inactive
    Marion Evans
    @MarionEvans

    Titus Techera:

    Marion Evans: releases

    No second acts in American lives-

    I guess I contradicted myself in comments 15 and 16.

    • #31
  2. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
    Tom Meyer, Ed.
    @tommeyer

    jetstream: Tom you were on a roll until number 4. There’s a lot the speaker can do between now and January 20, 2017. The magnitude of options and actions goes well beyond what a Silent Cal could comment on.

    I agree there are important things a speaker can do — like everyone else here, I’m incensed at the lack of forced vetoes — but I think they all pale in comparison to what a Republican president can do, which is why I’m not interested in spending a lot of  political capital on this fight.

    But I think I can be persuaded. Shoot.

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  3. Manny Coolidge
    Manny
    @Manny

    Personally I’d support it but the media will report it as an act of desperation, which to some degree it is.  Frankly I think Paul Ryan needs to step up here.

    Edit: Just read Tom’s comments, and he’s right.  Let’s move on.  Paul Ryan has to either take the Speakership himself or step up and direct the caucus to an acceptable person.  Who that might be (other than Ryan himself) I don’t have a clue.

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  4. John Hendrix Thatcher
    John Hendrix
    @JohnHendrix

    My initial reaction to this proposal was YIPPIE! For all of the wrong reasons.

    I liked the idea of Newt as speaker because I anticipate he would use his position to call out Obama on the foreseeable consequences his disastrous administration–which would be great fun.  But political spite is a pretty poor basis for picking the next Speaker of the House.

    That said, I think at this point Ryan is the next best choice.  But Ryan has already declined. After you get past Ryan then the bench is rather thin. Once Ryan is no longer an option we then enter a zone where all of the alternatives have real problems.  Including Newt, as Tom Myers pointed out in #27.

    If Ryan cannot be persuaded to run for the Speakership then I’d say that Newt would be a suitable alternative. Not desirable, but we can live with it.

    Tom Myers is correct that Newt would energize the Left.  We do not want the Left to have energy.

    Another problem with Newt: his hand is always 6 inches from the self-destruct button. That should keep the evening news interesting.

    It is not for nothing that Newt was removed as speaker.  I want to think the Newt has reflected on the mistakes he made as Speaker the last time around and avoid them.  Of course this just means that Newt would make different mistakes this time around.

    Potential irony alert: John Boehner’s anti-Newt activism in 1997 contributed to Newt being ejected as Speaker in 1998. If Newt does succeed John Boehner then Newt will be replacing, as Speaker, one of the players who worked to get Newt out of the Speakership.

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  5. carcat74 Member
    carcat74
    @carcat74

    Correct if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Ryan a VP candidate? If so, him as Speaker puts him 2 heartbeats from the White House…..

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  6. Mike Hubbard Inactive
    Mike Hubbard
    @MikeHubbard

    We tend to misremember Newt’s downfall as a result of his delusions of grandeur when the real trouble was his delusions of competence.  Running the House on a daily basis is hard, thankless work.  It takes a steady hand to keep most of the drama queens in the caucus going in more or less the same direction.  Gingrich simply isn’t cut out for the role.  He’s an idea guy, not an institution guy.

    And even as an idea guy, Gingrich’s flashes of genius come too far apart for day-to-day politics.  He belongs in a think tank.

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  7. Casey Inactive
    Casey
    @Casey

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:Bad idea.

    1. As Mama Toad said, it sounds desperate.
    2. Reeks of the past. Newt was last elected in the same year as Bill Clinton. That’s 19 years ago.
    3. It’ll reinvigorate Democrats and give them an extra bogeyman to run against (“Well, unlike Republicans, we don’t install someone who hasn’t been elected in 19 years, and who’s eeeevil and…”)
    4. I’d rather focus on winning the presidency. There’s not much a good speaker can do at the moment. Newt would be a big gamble for little potential gain. Not worth it.

    Good idea.

    1. As Mama Toad said, it sounds desperate.
    2. Reeks of the past. Newt was last elected in the same year as Bill Clinton. That’s 19 years ago.
    3. It’ll reinvigorate Democrats and give them an extra bogeyman to run against (“Well, unlike Republicans, we don’t install someone who hasn’t been elected in 19 years, and who’s eeeevil and…”)
    4. I’d rather focus on winning the presidency. There’s not much a good speaker can do at the moment. Newt would be a big gamble for little potential gain. Not worth it.
    • #37
  8. James Gawron Inactive
    James Gawron
    @JamesGawron

    Claire,

    I like Newt but I would prefer Cromwell.

    Regards,

    Jim

    • #38
  9. donald todd Inactive
    donald todd
    @donaldtodd

    The last time a Republican House Speaker did a really good job, it was Newt.  Newt ran one-third of the triumvirate that is the White House, the Senate, and the House.  Newt got what he went after and it worked in our favor.  Big time.

    Now if the naysayers would tell us how they would do it?

    I did vote for Newt when he ran for president.  I did not hold his past indiscretions against him.  I enjoyed watching every debate (or sound bite opportunity) he was involved in.  I loved listening to him turn the tables on his interlocutors.

    I believe that he would turn the tables on Barry, very publicly and very convincingly.

    Now if the naysayers would tell us how they would do it?

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  10. Larry Koler Inactive
    Larry Koler
    @LarryKoler

    F – 18:Newt was forced to resign for ethical reasons. both personal and professionally related. Do we really have memories this short?

    What were those? Can you name them? Are they anything that would bother a Democrat’s chances?

    The question is easy:  why didn’t Clinton resign?

    And then: Was Newt worse?

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  11. Mike LaRoche Inactive
    Mike LaRoche
    @MikeLaRoche

    RINOs are congenital losers. Always have been, always will be.

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  12. Larry Koler Inactive
    Larry Koler
    @LarryKoler

    Duane Oyen:Bright, all mouth and ego, self-promotion. Is that the profile that wins? Last time Newt was Speaker, he dominated the news for several days when he complained about his seat on AF 1 o an overseas trip, because he wasn’t being feted enough.

    If you are looking for someone to be a blowhard in the news cycle, that is, a new Kevin McCarthy rim shot every second day, Newt is your guy.

    Yes, you have the MSM talking points down very well.

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  13. Titus Techera Contributor
    Titus Techera
    @TitusTechera

    Larry Koler:

    Duane Oyen:Bright, all mouth and ego, self-promotion. Is that the profile that wins? Last time Newt was Speaker, he dominated the news for several days when he complained about his seat on AF 1 o an overseas trip, because he wasn’t being feted enough.

    If you are looking for someone to be a blowhard in the news cycle, that is, a new Kevin McCarthy rim shot every second day, Newt is your guy.

    Yes, you have the MSM talking points down very well.

    This is to say the least unkind. Do you have any evidence that the man eats up or spits out MSM talking points?

    F – 18:Newt was forced to resign for ethical reasons. both personal and professionally related. Do we really have memories this short?

    What were those? Can you name them? Are they anything that would bother a Democrat’s chances?

    The question is easy:  why didn’t Clinton resign?

    And then: Was Newt worse?

    I think these questions are worth asking, but I do not see much change coming that way. The two parties really are different & differently positioned when it comes to the voting public. If it’s a matter of votes, Mr. Clinton was reelected, but the GOP lost seats in 1998 & 1996 (except in the Senate, which I presume has nothing to do with Mr. Gingrich or any other Speaker).

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  14. Larry Koler Inactive
    Larry Koler
    @LarryKoler

    I worry that Newt might not have the energy to do this work full time. I want him to enjoy his semi-retirement and live a long time. I do hope that some of the candidates consult with him. He should get some recognition for what a revolutionary man he was and we should be grateful that he came along after Reagan and motivated the Republicans.

    That said, if he wanted to do it — I would trust his judgment on whether he could handle the job. It’s just a transitional period and it’s crucial we have someone who is as seasoned and thoughtful as he is.

    • #44
  15. Larry Koler Inactive
    Larry Koler
    @LarryKoler

    Titus Techera:

    Larry Koler:

    Duane Oyen:Bright, all mouth and ego, self-promotion. Is that the profile that wins? Last time Newt was Speaker, he dominated the news for several days when he complained about his seat on AF 1 o an overseas trip, because he wasn’t being feted enough.

    If you are looking for someone to be a blowhard in the news cycle, that is, a new Kevin McCarthy rim shot every second day, Newt is your guy.

    Yes, you have the MSM talking points down very well.

    This is to say the least unkind. Do you have any evidence that the man eats up or spits out MSM talking points?

    I was there in the 1990s — I remember who came up with each talking point as they happened in real time. The same people who were so worried about Duane’s talking points were completely OK with Clinton not being forced out.

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  16. Mike LaRoche Inactive
    Mike LaRoche
    @MikeLaRoche

    Duane Oyen:Bright, all mouth and ego, self-promotion. Is that the profile that wins? Last time Newt was Speaker, he dominated the news for several days when he complained about his seat on AF 1 o an overseas trip, because he wasn’t being feted enough.

    If you are looking for someone to be a blowhard in the news cycle, that is, a new Kevin McCarthy rim shot every second day, Newt is your guy.

    Duane! I thought you’d left us once and for all. Nice to have you back.

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  17. Titus Techera Contributor
    Titus Techera
    @TitusTechera

    Oh, I have no problem asking any one how they feel about Mr. Clinton. If you want my answer, I do not believe he should have resigned when impeachment came about. I feel rather more strongly about impeachment for national security matters to do with nuclear technology & China earlier, but frankly I would not have favored impeachment in that case either–not unless there was serious political support. I take the coward’s road in such matters.

    But that is all to one side–the man deserves being asked the same question as anyone else, not presumption that he’s no better than a Clinton hack or a Mr. Stephanopoulos.

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  18. Mike LaRoche Inactive
    Mike LaRoche
    @MikeLaRoche

    Kevin McCarthy has always been an Establican stooge; quite a stark contrast to an accomplished revolutionary like Newt Gingrich.

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  19. Whiskey Sam Inactive
    Whiskey Sam
    @WhiskeySam

    I am fascinated by the idea of a non-elected person being Speaker, but I can’t believe this wouldn’t cause a constitutional crisis were something to happen to the President and Veep.  Surely there would be some outcry in the speaker assuming the Presidency if he wasn’t even an elected member of Congress.

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  20. Dan Hanson Thatcher
    Dan Hanson
    @DanHanson

    Anything that makes the left’s collective heads explode is fine by me.

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  21. Duane Oyen Member
    Duane Oyen
    @DuaneOyen

    Mike LaRoche:

    Duane Oyen:Bright, all mouth and ego, self-promotion. Is that the profile that wins? Last time Newt was Speaker, he dominated the news for several days when he complained about his seat on AF 1 o an overseas trip, because he wasn’t being feted enough.

    If you are looking for someone to be a blowhard in the news cycle, that is, a new Kevin McCarthy rim shot every second day, Newt is your guy.

    Duane! I thought you’d left us once and for all. Nice to have you back.

    Says the first place team owner to the last place team owner.  This week, since the Vikings are on a bye, I literally had to bench my entire team and field pick-up guys.

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  22. Duane Oyen Member
    Duane Oyen
    @DuaneOyen

    Larry Koler:

     

    Yes, you have the MSM talking points down very well.

    This is to say the least unkind. Do you have any evidence that the man eats up or spits out MSM talking points?

    I was there in the 1990s — I remember who came up with each talking point as they happened in real time. The same people who were so worried about Duane’s talking points were completely OK with Clinton not being forced out.

    The question at the time, since it was obvious from day 1 that there would not be the 2/3 senate majority to vote out Clinton, was how to punish him for deserving impeachment and removal from office in the real world.  I was for impeachment at the time, I probability should have supported censure, since the sympathy vote in 1998 caused our side to lose several Senate seats.

    The problem with Newt and Newt’s supporters is that they mistake the thrill and satisfaction of him dressing down some reporter (Speaking Truth To Power!) with actually accomplishing something.  Newt was a polarizing spokesperson- sort of like Kevin McCarthy, where he spoke first and thought through the possible impacts of the statement after the fact.  The hyperpolitical first instinct.

    Newt is an OK policy guy except for health care (where he bought into the “prevention” mythos of ObamaCare because he didn’t understand health care very well)- but he is not who we need right now as the public face.

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  23. Titus Techera Contributor
    Titus Techera
    @TitusTechera

    Troy Senik:I am fascinated by the idea of a non-elected person being Speaker, but I can’t believe this wouldn’t cause a constitutional crisis were something to happen to the President and Veep. Surely there would be some outcry in the speaker assuming the Presidency if he wasn’t even an elected member of Congress.

    Great comment, new Troy–you’re on fire!

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  24. Tom Wilson Inactive
    Tom Wilson
    @TomWilson

    Newt can be very good at times, but he has a tendency to self puffery that gets him in trouble. If I had a vote in the matter I would vote no, unless his service would be for a short while, say until after the next election.

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  25. Eric Hines Inactive
    Eric Hines
    @EricHines

    Eustace C. Scrubb:Claire Berlinski, Ed.

    I find the idea sensible. Not because it would annoy the left, but because he knows how to do that job.

    I agree Newt is proven. But I think Cheney is proven as well, and would be sure to work for the country’s good rather than his own ego. But both have that annoyance bonus which the base would appreciate at this time.

    Cheney isn’t healthy enough.  Gingrich’s age has enhanced his lack of focus.

    I, on the other hand, am entirely willing to be the Speaker of the House.  I’m Conservative, not trapped by PC-ness, and being as unknown as I am, I can pass Congressman Walter Jones’ (R, NC) hatchet job/skeletons letter.

    Eric Hines

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  26. E. Kent Golding Moderator
    E. Kent Golding
    @EKentGolding

    Titus Techera:

    Mr. Gingrich is undoubtedly the best choice among American politicians.

    Interesting point.   Think we could get Netanyahu?

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  27. Titus Techera Contributor
    Titus Techera
    @TitusTechera

    E. Kent Golding:

    Titus Techera:

    Mr. Gingrich is undoubtedly the best choice among American politicians.

    Interesting point. Think we could Netanyahu?

    It’s a bit late in the game…

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  28. goldwaterwoman Thatcher
    goldwaterwoman
    @goldwaterwoman

    Newt can save this party and this country. He’s the smartest politician in Washington D.C. and should have been elected president. His huge ego is his worst enemy, not to mention the establishment Republicans.

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  29. Ryan M Inactive
    Ryan M
    @RyanM

    I’d be cool with it.  Honestly.

    Do I expect anything better?

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  30. Ryan M Inactive
    Ryan M
    @RyanM

    goldwaterwoman:Newt can save this party and this country. He’s the smartest politician in Washington D.C. and should have been elected president. His huge ego is his worst enemy, not to mention the establishment Republicans.

    ok, that might be taking it a little too far.  But I’d be ok with him as speaker.

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