What’s Rick Gotta Do?

 

Screen Shot 2015-06-04 at 12.56.53 PMA few moments ago, Rick Perry finished giving perhaps the best announcement speech of any Republican candidate who’s jumped into the presidential field. Were this his first time angling for the Oval Office, he’d be sending shock waves through the field. But “were this his first time” is probably a phrase we’re going to have to get used to where Perry is concerned.

Now, the former Texas governor still has a pretty decent fan base at Ricochet. When we asked our members to choose between potential presidential candidates in May, Perry came in third (with 9%), although nowhere close to the top two, Scott Walker (39%) and Marco Rubio (21%). He also finished a respectable fourth when members were asked about their second-choice candidate. That’s far better than he’s faring in national polls, where the RealClearPolitics average has him tenth, behind — God help us — Donald Trump. Those numbers will almost certainly change now that he’s taking on a higher profile, but he’s still got a ways to go before he cracks the top tier (assuming that the concept of “top tier” even applies in a field that is itself larger than the Iowa or New Hampshire electorates).

My sense for a while now has been that there aren’t a whole lot of conservatives, especially here at Ricochet, who are dead set against Perry as a presidential candidate. In fact, many seem like they would really like to support him. But, let’s face it: once bitten, twice shy. He had all the same things going for him last time — executive experience, a military background, the Texas track record, the look of a lost member of the Brolin family — and he still managed to roll the car into the ditch.

So, here’s the question for those of you who have misgivings based on the 2012 experience (although I’d love to hear from any of you): What would Rick Perry have to do to convince you to support him again in 2016?

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  1. Steve C. Member
    Steve C.
    @user_531302

    Demonstrate broad appeal by doing well in Iowa and New Hampshire. Be effective, clear and persuasive in the debates. Present the argument that Texas economic successes are due to state policies. Fracking is lagniappe!

    Don’t go Full Texan.

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  2. Ricochet Member
    Ricochet
    @EustaceCScrubb

    Sadly, what Perry would have to do would not be a former governor of Texas. It might not be fair, just as it might not be fair that Jeb can’t win with his last name, but life isn’t fair.

    (Joseph Stanko said this better above.)

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  3. captainpower Inactive
    captainpower
    @captainpower

    Kermit Hoffpauir:To those who understand the significance not yet fully realized of the tight shale oil and gas revolution his Pittsburg policy speech and white paper showed how well he understood manufacturing economy, even though he understated the effect.

    Perry is in my top tier. Senators who spend all their time orating and not doing their job are not in that tier.

    This one?

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?302089-1/rick-perry-energy-policy-plan

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  4. SParker Member
    SParker
    @SParker

    Any reluctance is almost gone.  I’m pretty sure he can hold the stage even with this election’s abundance of political talent, but I’d like to see it done.  And, contrariwise, should he approve any campaign ad with Sam Elliot doing voice-over, he is most certainly dead to me.

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  5. Al Kennedy Inactive
    Al Kennedy
    @AlKennedy

    I have already decided to give Rick Perry a second chance.  He will have to perform against the rest of the candidates, but he has several strengths: he is one of the best retail politicians in the field; he is charming and likable; he served in the military; he spent the last 3 years studying and preparing on policy positions, and has hired Avik Roy as his chief policy person; he established a very strong record in Texas; he is a charter member of the Tea Party, and very well-liked by the Republican base.  One question I have is whether he will be as successful in raising money as he was in 2012.

    Ben Domenech has an informative discussion of Rick Perry and his chances on today’s Coffee and Markets podcast available on iTunes.

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  6. captainpower Inactive
    captainpower
    @captainpower

    Al Kennedy:Ben Domenech has an informative discussion of Rick Perry and his chances on today’s Coffee and Markets podcast available on iTunes.

    http://coffeeandmarkets.com/2015/06/04/rick-perry-enters-a-crowded-gop-field/

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  7. Al Kennedy Inactive
    Al Kennedy
    @AlKennedy

    captainpower:

    Al Kennedy:Ben Domenech has an informative discussion of Rick Perry and his chances on today’s Coffee and Markets podcast available on iTunes.

    http://coffeeandmarkets.com/2015/06/04/rick-perry-enters-a-crowded-gop-field/

    Thanks for supplying the link captainpower.

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  8. user_75648 Thatcher
    user_75648
    @JohnHendrix

    For what it is worth, Rick Wilson made the following observations about Perry on Twitter

    Five thoughts about @GovernorPerry:

    1. Stellar economic record. Stellar. Best narrative, hands down on job creation as executive.
    2. He’s been putting work in since the 2012 effort. Tighter and sharper on policy, has clearly done the reading. This matters.
    3. Walks the walk on being a good guy. cf his quiet work with vets out of the spotlight. Has real compassion, not the “Spend moar!” variety.
    4.  Lots of post hoc 2012 giggling by press, but he’s clearly learned lessons and focused. High hill? Sure. Serious guy? Yep.
    5.  Likable. Connects with people. It matters. Other than Marco, lots of the GOP field is…prickly.

    Tweets were edited so as to “story-ify” them.  Converted to html numbered list

    Commentary: Rick Wilson is a GOP political consultant.  I recall that on a pre-2014 election podcast Rick correctly called a number of elections that I did not expect the GOP to win.  At the time I suspected that Rick was just doing the cheerleader thing.  Afterward I realized that Rick was either damn lucky or damn good.  My current thinking favors the later.

    Of course, past performance doesn’t guarantee future results.   But Rick’s career as a consultant is based on his reputation for good judgement. It would do his reputation no good to publicly make predictions he knew were likely to be false.

    In that podcast Rick made the following point: “Candidate quality comes first.” Which I understand to mean that politicians who are good at their jobs–which includes governing well, doing the work necessary to raise money from donors, campaigning hard, being prepared, not getting involved in stupid conversations, and so on–have a better chance of winning.

    I discern from those tweets that Rick scores Perry as a quality candidate. My guess is that Rick would also score Rubio, Walker and Jeb as quality candidates.

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  9. Jim Kearney Member
    Jim Kearney
    @JimKearney

    He needs to get into the debates, and do well.

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  10. Jim Kearney Member
    Jim Kearney
    @JimKearney

    1. Attack Jeb Bush every day the way Carly is dogging Hillary. Whoever takes Jeb down will get media attention and earn a spot in the debates.

    2. Have really good debates.

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  11. Ricochet Member
    Ricochet
    @carcat74

    I wish he’d ditch the heavy black frames in favor of bronze metal rims—still manly, but more open.  His face is too hidden by those big glasses.  Switch the suit to a lighter color—he is from Texas, and black in the sun?  Other than that, wouldn’t change a thing!  (Southern belle swoon, fans face with hand…)

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