Those Were the Days

 

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After the end of the semester and a particularly awful work week, I finally got a chance to bake some cookies, put up my Christmas tree, and just generally do Christmasy things. One of these things was to watch my second favorite Christmas movie, White Christmas (feel free to inquire what my most favorite is).

I could listen to Bing Crosby sing all day — even if he did get that baritone timbre by smoking a pipe. I love classic movies, and sitting on my couch watching Danny Kaye and Vera Ellen spin around the dance floor one thought jumped out at me — “Gosh, I wish people still danced!”

Now, of course people still dance, but twerking like Miley Cyrus with a bad case of tardive dyskinesia doesn’t count as dancing in my book. I wish the classic ballroom dance forms were still common to the culture the way they once were. This summer, I took a couple ballroom lessons, and I have never felt more elegant than I did when I was foxtrotting and waltzing across the floor.

Then I started looking at the clothes the characters were wearing in White Christmas and thought, “Man, clothes were so much more flattering and tasteful back then.” A certain longing for days of yore crept over me.

So I’m curious — what aspects of times gone by do the esteemed ladies and gentlemen of the Ricochetti long for a return of? What fashions, habits, and parts of culture do you fervently wish would be reinstated in contemporary society? Obviously, I would start with dancing.

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  1. Midget Faded Rattlesnake Member
    Midget Faded Rattlesnake
    @Midge

    The days when it was considered OK to quiet screaming children with laudanum.

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  2. user_6236 Member
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    @JimChase

    MLH:

    Ray Kujawa:Yes, ladies, those are high heeled shoes in the picture. That’s what women used to dance in before the glory days of feminism.

    Ray, we still dance in heels.

    (and yes, Jim Chase, the routines are choreographed)

    Maybe I was too subtle, but I was making a joke.  Choreography is a musical set in  White Christmas.

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  3. user_1938 Inactive
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    @AaronMiller

    Jim Chase: Maybe I was too subtle, but I was making a joke.  Choreography is a musical set in  White Christmas.

    And the worst one at that.

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  4. user_6236 Member
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    @JimChase

    Aaron Miller:

    Jim Chase: Maybe I was too subtle, but I was making a joke. Choreography is a musical set in White Christmas.

    And the worst one at that.

    Oh, no doubt.  We watch the movie every year, and I cringe and make fun of that set all the way through.

    The thea-tah, the thea-tah … (shudder)

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  5. Jimmy Carter Member
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    @JimmyCarter

    I miss the patriotism of the greatest decade ever: the ’80s….. and mullets.

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  6. Midget Faded Rattlesnake Member
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    @Midge

    Jim Chase:

    Aaron Miller:

    Jim Chase: Maybe I was too subtle, but I was making a joke. Choreography is a musical set in White Christmas.

    And the worst one at that.

    Oh, no doubt. We watch the movie every year, and I cringe and make fun of that set all the way through.

    The thea-tah, the thea-tah … (shudder)

    I dunno. I find it entertaining. But then, I kind of hate theater people.

    (OK, that’s not fair. I have several friends who are theater people, but I like them better when they’re not busy theater-peopling.)

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  7. Midget Faded Rattlesnake Member
    Midget Faded Rattlesnake
    @Midge

    MLH:

    Ray Kujawa:Yes, ladies, those are high heeled shoes in the picture. That’s what women used to dance in before the glory days of feminism.

    Ray, we still dance in heels.

    You kind of have to, since the heel acts as a pivot for certain moves.

    While it’s possible to flex a bare or lightly-shod foot so that only the heel is in contact with the ground and then use your natural heel as a pivot, the flexing rather spoils the line of the leg, creates an awkward dip in your height, and aren’t as narrow a pivot as the heel on a typical ballroom dancing shoe.

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  8. user_44643 Inactive
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    @MikeLaRoche

    A man’s *got* to know his limitations.

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  9. MLH Inactive
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    @MLH

    Jim Chase:

    MLH:

    Ray Kujawa:Yes, ladies, those are high heeled shoes in the picture. That’s what women used to dance in before the glory days of feminism.

    Ray, we still dance in heels.

    Maybe I was too subtle, but I was making a joke. Choreography is a musical set in White Christmas.

    I’m not a fan of White Christmas (don’t think I’ve ever watched the entire film, in fact) so it was lost on me.

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  10. The King Prawn Inactive
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    @TheKingPrawn

    The choreography bit is one of the best parts of the movie. That is Danny Kaye being a hammerhead like only he could do it. I laugh just thinking about it.

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  11. kaekrem@aol.com Thatcher
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    @VicrylContessa

    Jim Chase:

    MLH:

    Ray Kujawa:Yes, ladies, those are high heeled shoes in the picture. That’s what women used to dance in before the glory days of feminism.

    Ray, we still dance in heels.

    (and yes, Jim Chase, the routines are choreographed)

    Maybe I was too subtle, but I was making a joke. Choreography is a musical set in White Christmas.

    The beginning of “Choreography” is a parody/critique of Martha Graham’s dancing, which was completely opposed to the glitz and mass appeal of musical theatre dancing. The whole song is a poke in the eye of Modern dance.

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  12. kaekrem@aol.com Thatcher
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    @VicrylContessa

    Jimmy Carter:I miss the patriotism of the greatest decade ever: the ’80s….. and mullets.

    What you’re really saying is, you miss Reagan.

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  13. user_998621 Member
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    @Liz

    Vicryl Contessa:

    MLH:What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    I miss men taking their hats off indoors.

    My favorite is A Tuna Christmas, which I do think is funnier if you’re Southern. It is a riot and a half. If you can get your hands on it, do.

    As to your hats comment, I second that, and take it a step further: I wish men wore real hats again instead of beanies and baseball caps.

    A Tuna Christmas is pure genius.  I don’t know how my mother found it, but she introduced our family to Tuna, and we have been obsessed ever since.  I also love Greater Tuna and Red, Hot, and Tuna, but A Tuna Christmas is the masterpiece.

    Didi Snavely: Remember our motto at Didi’s Used Weapons: If we can’t kill it, it’s immmmortal.

    Re: your nostalgia for the way things were before you (and I) were born, girl, I am right there with you.  I love those old movies, but they break my heart a little.

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  14. Gödel's Ghost Inactive
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    @GreatGhostofGodel

    MLH:

    Ray Kujawa:Yes, ladies, those are high heeled shoes in the picture. That’s what women used to dance in before the glory days of feminism.

    Ray, we still dance in heels.

    I’m sorry, but the only place anyone’s rib cage should be visible is on the cover of National Geographic. Ugh.

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  15. kaekrem@aol.com Thatcher
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    @VicrylContessa

    Liz:

    Vicryl Contessa:

    MLH:What is your favorite Christmas movie?

    I miss men taking their hats off indoors.

    My favorite is A Tuna Christmas, which I do think is funnier if you’re Southern. It is a riot and a half. If you can get your hands on it, do.

    As to your hats comment, I second that, and take it a step further: I wish men wore real hats again instead of beanies and baseball caps.

    A Tuna Christmas is pure genius. I don’t know how my mother found it, but she introduced our family to Tuna, and we have been obsessed ever since. I also love Greater Tuna and Red, Hot, and Tuna, but A Tuna Christmas is the masterpiece.

    Didi Snavely: Remember our motto at Didi’s Used Weapons: If we can’t kill it, it’s immmmortal.

    Re: your nostalgia for the way things were before you (and I) were born, girl, I am right there with you. I love those old movies, but they break my heart a little.

    I love Didi! “God forbid during this joyous season anyone listening should become the victim of a Christmas theft. But wouldn’t you rather shoot someone than watch ’em run off with your new toaster? I know I would. So whether it’s a stun gun, judo clubs, or just a simple old-fashioned switch blade, when you come to Didi’s, you’ll have a holly, jolly Christmas, and the criminal will have a silent night!”

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  16. MLH Inactive
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    @MLH

    Gödel’s Ghost

    I’m sorry, but the only place anyone’s rib cage should be visible is on the cover of National Geographic. Ugh.

    You’re supposed to be looking at her shoes.

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  17. user_358258 Inactive
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    @RandyWebster

    MLH:Gödel’s Ghost

    You’re supposed to be looking at her shoes.

    What shoes?

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  18. user_525137 Inactive
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    @AdrianaHarris

    I miss people not being mutilated with piercings and tattoos. What ever happened to nice healthy skin.

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  19. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    @UmbraFractus

    Jim Chase: Is that dancing? Or is it choreography?

    I’m going to dissent from the consensus and admit that I hated that movie…

    …except for that song.

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  20. user_44643 Inactive
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    @MikeLaRoche

    Adriana Harris:I miss people not being mutilated with piercings and tattoos. What ever happened to nice healthy skin.

    Those are the most visible signs of our civilization’s decline.

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  21. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    @UmbraFractus

    Adriana Harris:I miss people not being mutilated with piercings and tattoos. What ever happened to nice healthy skin.

    It’s the easily foreseeable end result of the mentality that rebellion is the natural state for teenagers and young adults; every generation has to push it a little further.

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  22. kaekrem@aol.com Thatcher
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    @VicrylContessa

    Adriana Harris:I miss people not being mutilated with piercings and tattoos. What ever happened to nice healthy skin.

    Absolutely! Especially on women, I hate seeing multiple ear/face piercings and tattoos everywhere. I’m one of the few women where I work that doesn’t have a tattoo. When I get asked why I don’t get one, I always say, “Why would you put a bumper sticker on a Ferrari?” (though it would be more appropriate to refer to myself as a Honda or VW)

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  23. MLH Inactive
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    @MLH

    Vicryl Contessa:

    Adriana Harris:I miss people not being mutilated with piercings and tattoos. What ever happened to nice healthy skin.

    Absolutely! Especially on women, I hate seeing multiple ear/face piercings and tattoos everywhere. I’m one of the few women where I work that doesn’t have a tattoo. When I get asked why I don’t get one, I always say, “Why would you put a bumper sticker on a Ferrari?” (though it would be more appropriate to refer to myself as a Honda or VW)

    If it’s only skin deep. Stick with Ferrari self-image.

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  24. Gödel's Ghost Inactive
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    @GreatGhostofGodel

    Vicryl Contessa:

    Adriana Harris:I miss people not being mutilated with piercings and tattoos. What ever happened to nice healthy skin.

    Absolutely! Especially on women, I hate seeing multiple ear/face piercings and tattoos everywhere. I’m one of the few women where I work that doesn’t have a tattoo. When I get asked why I don’t get one, I always say, “Why would you put a bumper sticker on a Ferrari?” (though it would be more appropriate to refer to myself as a Honda or VW)

    There’s much to be said for being built for comfort rather than speed.

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  25. Gödel's Ghost Inactive
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    @GreatGhostofGodel

    MLH:Gödel’s Ghost

    You’re supposed to be looking at her shoes.

    There are no shoes capable of making rib cages sexy. You may quote me.

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  26. Midget Faded Rattlesnake Member
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    @Midge

    Gödel’s Ghost:

    MLH: You’re supposed to be looking at her shoes.

    There are no shoes capable of making rib cages sexy. You may quote me.

    Not even these?

    skeleton-high-heels

    (Me, I’m barrel-chested and pear-shaped, so for all my teens and twenties, my ribs showed, even though I was never what anyone would consider a skinny girl.)

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  27. Gödel's Ghost Inactive
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    @GreatGhostofGodel

    Midget Faded Rattlesnake:

    Gödel’s Ghost:

    MLH: You’re supposed to be looking at her shoes.

    There are no shoes capable of making rib cages sexy. You may quote me.

    Not even these?

    skeleton-high-heels

    (Me, I’m barrel-chested and pear-shaped, so for all my teens and twenties, my ribs showed, even though I was never what anyone would consider a skinny girl.)

    Pics or it didn’t happen. ;-)

    Rib cage = emaciation, so yeah, if you can demonstrate lack of emaciation by other means, great!

    As for the shoes: in those, you’d make a heckuva Dia de Muertos date!

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  28. user_3444 Coolidge
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    @JosephStanko

    MLH: Most men who dance ballroom socially have some choreography for each dance that they know and will dance the same steps in the same order (because it is hard to do otherwise).

    And that’s why I hate to dance: I was never taught any ballroom dance steps, and even if I knew them, no one dances that way any more.  At the school dances, weddings, and such that I’ve attended most of the dancing is freestyle, improvised dancing to a DJ playing rock and rap music.  I don’t know what to do, so I feel awkward and very self-conscious, so I hate it and try to avoid it.

    Whereas if everyone was doing the same dance, and I actually knew what the steps were, I’d feel much more comfortable.  I might even enjoy it.

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  29. Gödel's Ghost Inactive
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    @GreatGhostofGodel

    Joseph Stanko: At the school dances, weddings, and such that I’ve attended most of the dancing is freestyle, improvised dancing to a DJ playing rock and rap music.  I don’t know what to do, so I feel awkward and very self-conscious, so I hate it and try to avoid it.

    Amen and amen. I’ve surprised and disappointed, not one, but two friends who got up the nerve to ask me to dance—still quite rare for women to do, in my experience—by turning them down, for exactly this reason.

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  30. MLH Inactive
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    @MLH

    Joseph Stanko:

    MLH: Most men who dance ballroom socially have some choreography for each dance that they know and will dance the same steps in the same order (because it is hard to do otherwise).

    And that’s why I hate to dance: I was never taught any ballroom dance steps, and even if I knew them, no one dances that way any more. At the school dances, weddings, and such that I’ve attended most of the dancing is freestyle, improvised dancing to a DJ playing rock and rap music. I don’t know what to do, so I feel awkward and very self-conscious, so I hate it and try to avoid it.

    Whereas if everyone was doing the same dance, and I actually knew what the steps were, I’d feel much more comfortable. I might even enjoy it.

    I was brought up being told that I had no rhythm. I found ballroom. Give it a try. (A good private instructor will teach you simple partner steps that you can do solo.)

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