‘Guns Are Really Not Problematic’

 

“I think the best part about my job is just showing people who are normally kind of freaked out by guns how safe they can be and how they’re not really problematic unless put in the wrong hands.” — Hannah Gutierrez Reed, New York Post

Hannah Reed, the armorer on the Rust movie set, grew up around guns. She should have known that guns are never safe. They are always dangerous because of the enormous power within. Keeping guns out of the wrong hands doesn’t make them safe, but proper handling of guns mitigates their danger.

It’s like my table saw. A table saw is never “safe.” There are not right and wrong hands to operate a table saw, but there are right and wrong ways to operate a table saw. Every time I turn on the table saw, I try to respect its power. I try not to get comfortable with it. Guns should be the same way.

One reason this tragedy happened (and it appears there are many reasons) is that everyone who handled that gun was not freaked out enough by it.

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  1. Arahant Member
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    Steve Fast: One reason this tragedy happened (and it appears there are many reasons) is that everyone who handled that gun was not freaked out enough by it.

    While I would prefer a different phrasing, such as “didn’t respect it enough,” you aren’t wrong.

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    Alec Baldwin is problematic.

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  3. Flicker Coolidge
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    Even the Hollywood actors’ terminology is weird to me.  There’s “hot” guns and “cold” guns.  They describe four types of things, at least: an unloaded gun, a gun loaded with dummy rounds, a gun loaded with blank rounds, and guns loaded with live rounds.

    When Baldwin was told that the gun he was handed was “cold”, what did cold mean?  And when Baldwin said that in all his years he had never been handed a “hot” gun, what did hot mean?  Is he saying that he had never held a gun with dummies or blanks?

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  4. Vance Richards Inactive
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    People who own guns or shoot on a regular basis will have a greater respect for the potential danger of the weapon than anti-gun activists . . . and Hollywood is full of anti-gun activists

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  5. BDB Inactive
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Even the Hollywood actors’ terminology is weird to me. There’s “hot” guns and “cold” guns. They describe four types of things, at least: an unloaded gun, a gun loaded with dummy rounds, a gun loaded with blank rounds, and guns loaded with live rounds.

    When Baldwin was told that the gun he was handed was “cold”, what did cold mean? And when Baldwin said that in all his years he had never been handed a “hot” gun, what did hot mean? Is he saying that he had never held a gun with dummies or blanks?

    Agree 100%.  Was Hexum’s gun “cold”?

    Words have meaning.  Processes have definitions.  Rules have exceptions (which is to say that if there is no exception, then the rule applies).

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  6. BDB Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Alec Baldwin is problematic.

    And worfress.

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  7. Mark Camp Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Steve Fast: One reason this tragedy happened (and it appears there are many reasons) is that everyone who handled that gun was not freaked out enough by it.

    While I would prefer a different phrasing, such as “didn’t respect it enough,” you aren’t wrong.

    While I would prefer Steve’s phrasing, you aren’t wrong.

    I think the physical acceptance of a firearm warrants what would be normally be considered neurotic, obsessive/compulsive behavior:

    We shouldn’t assume that every slice of birthday cake that a trusted person hands us contains a lethal dose of cyanide, until we have thoroughly tested it.

    But we should assume that every firearm that a trusted person hands us contains a lethal dose of charge plus projectile, until we have thoroughly tested it.

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  8. Headedwest Coolidge
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    Steve Fast: A table saw is never “safe.” There are not right and wrong hands to operate a table saw, but there are right and wrong ways to operate a table saw. Every time I turn on the table saw, I try to respect its power. I try not to get comfortable with it. Guns should be the same way.

    My father was one of the most meticulous and careful men I have ever known. He did everything carefully, including woodworking, electrical wiring, sign painting, and even berry picking and eating corn on the cob. Everything he did was done carefully. But one night his table saw got him, and it cut off his watch (which was good because his watch kept the saw from biting into his wrist).

    You cannot take anything with serious power carefully enough. Do not assume anything.

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  9. Flicker Coolidge
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    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Steve Fast: A table saw is never “safe.” There are not right and wrong hands to operate a table saw, but there are right and wrong ways to operate a table saw. Every time I turn on the table saw, I try to respect its power. I try not to get comfortable with it. Guns should be the same way.

    My father was one of the most meticulous and careful men I have ever known. He did everything carefully, including woodworking, electrical wiring, sign painting, and even berry picking and eating corn on the cob. Everything he did was done carefully. But one night his table saw got him, and it cut off his watch (which was good because his watch kept the saw from biting into his wrist).

    You cannot take anything with serious power carefully enough. Do not assume anything.

    It takes, what, a tenth of a second?  A moment of carelessness?

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  10. Arahant Member
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    Mark Camp (View Comment):
    We shouldn’t assume that every slice of birthday cake that a trusted person hands us contains a lethal dose of cyanide gluten, until we have thoroughly tested it.

    Well, one word change, and I assume it. I also assume it of meatloaf or soup or anything where flour or one of my other allergens might be hiding in it.

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  11. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Steve Fast: A table saw is never “safe.” There are not right and wrong hands to operate a table saw, but there are right and wrong ways to operate a table saw. Every time I turn on the table saw, I try to respect its power. I try not to get comfortable with it. Guns should be the same way.

    My father was one of the most meticulous and careful men I have ever known. He did everything carefully, including woodworking, electrical wiring, sign painting, and even berry picking and eating corn on the cob. Everything he did was done carefully. But one night his table saw got him, and it cut off his watch (which was good because his watch kept the saw from biting into his wrist).

    You cannot take anything with serious power carefully enough. Do not assume anything.

    I recently neglected to respect a kitchen knife and lost part of a fingertip and nail. I’m typing this while avoiding using my left index finger. . .

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  12. Ammo.com Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Alec Baldwin is problematic.

    I wonder what Baldwin thinks the punishment for manslaughter should be?

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  13. BDB Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Steve Fast: A table saw is never “safe.” There are not right and wrong hands to operate a table saw, but there are right and wrong ways to operate a table saw. Every time I turn on the table saw, I try to respect its power. I try not to get comfortable with it. Guns should be the same way.

    My father was one of the most meticulous and careful men I have ever known. He did everything carefully, including woodworking, electrical wiring, sign painting, and even berry picking and eating corn on the cob. Everything he did was done carefully. But one night his table saw got him, and it cut off his watch (which was good because his watch kept the saw from biting into his wrist).

    You cannot take anything with serious power carefully enough. Do not assume anything.

    I recently neglected to respect a kitchen knife and lost part of a fingertip and nail. I’m typing this while avoiding using my left index finger. . .

    Ouch!  Sorry to hear it.

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