What the GOP Can Learn from The Oscars

 

Trump OscarsEven after a big win for Donald Trump in the New York primary last night, it is still likely that no candidate will arrive at the convention with a majority of the delegates on the first ballot. A recent Wall Street Journal/NBC poll showed that 62% of republicans feel that the candidate with the most delegates should be the nominee, despite not having a majority.

One of the issues with this poll – that was discussed on a recent episode of the FiveThirtyEight election podcast – is how the question was asked. One wonders the outcome if the question was “should the party nominee be a candidate who the majority of the party did not vote for?”.

This is the trouble with accepting the winner of a plurality, rather than a majority. It becomes more probable that people will reject the winner rather than coalesce around an acceptable alternative.

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences ran into this issue in 2010 when it expanded the number of nominees in the Best Picture category at its Academy Awards from five to 10.

The Academy decided 10 nominees could lead to a winner that is either too polarizing or simply unacceptable to many members of the voting bloc. Instead, the Academy preferred that the winner be as close to a consensus pick as possible.

To remedy this situation, they instituted a preferential ballot, in conjunction with what is called “instant run-off voting”. Here’s how it works:

The voters list the nominated films on their ballot in order of preference. When the votes are counted, if any film receives over 50% of the first place votes, the competition is over. But that event is unlikely. When there is no clear majority, the film with the fewest first place votes is removed from the running. Any ballots that featured that film first will have their second choices redistributed to the other films as first choices. This process is repeated, throwing away film after film, until one film has a majority of what are now considered first place votes.

So in this year’s contest, even though The Revenant was the odds-on favorite to take the top prize, 3-1 underdog Spotlight won in an upset. This could have (likely did) happened because The Revenant was loved by many, but liked by fewer voters than Spotlight. So when films like Bridge of Spies or Brooklyn had their ballots thrown out early in the process, their second-place votes were more likely to be for Spotlight than for The Revenant.

If this same procedure had been applied during the GOP nominating season, not only could we have avoided this pesky plurality problem, but it is very likely that the candidate landscape would look very different.

For example, when the Iowa Caucus results were counted, Mike Huckabee, John Kasich, Carly Fiorina, Jeb Bush, and Rand Paul would have their first place votes taken out. Then, the second choice on those ballots would be distributed to Ben Carson, Marco Rubio, Donald Trump, and Ted Cruz. This would keep going until likely Cruz, Trump, or Rubio won a majority of the votes.

It’s very possible that in that scenario, Trump would have far fewer delegates than he has now, Cruz could be headed toward the nomination, or someone like Rubio would still be in as a popular second choice among the Fiorina, Kasich, Bush crowd. Rather than squabbling over delegates, bracing for a convention fight, or shaking our fists at John Kasich, the party could be comfortably embracing a consensus pick.

This suggestion will probably not be popular among those constantly fretting over disenfranchisement, but it could be much more fair than our current world of state convention rules and delegate cajoling. The GOP doesn’t usually see eye-to-eye with Hollywood, but the last time the party borrowed something from the movie industry, it carried 44 states in the 1980 general election.

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  1. Josh Farnsworth Member
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    This is a great post – in an era of more competitive polling, states could conduct primaries where voters can rank their preferred candidates.  I like the idea, especially where there is a crowded field.

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  2. Man With the Axe Inactive
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    I like this idea. It avoids the need for runoff elections in those situations where they might otherwise occur.

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  3. Z in MT Member
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    Why is it that even constitutional conservatives are willing to throw out the Federalist baby with the bathwater when they believe they have a scheme that will produce an outcome they desire?

    I likes my antiquated, different-in-every-state primary process and I will brook no meddling, centralized control of the primary process.

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  4. Man With the Axe Inactive
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    Z in MT:

    I likes my antiquated, different-in-every-state primary process and I will brook no meddling, centralized control of the primary process.

    I wonder if, there were some other process currently in place you would prefer to move to what we have now?

    For example, do you like the way the Democrats do it, with the super-delagates?

    I’m not sure the Constitution or federalism have anything to do with the way the parties choose nominees. The negatives of the current system are significant. The outsized role of Iowa and New Hampshire, for example. The fact that the campaign takes so long and costs so much, when other countries can do it in less than half the time. The fact that in most cycles the nominees are chosen before many people, sometimes half the electorate, get to vote at all.

    I hope there are reasons to keep the current system other than it’s the current system.

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  5. Man With the Axe Inactive
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    Another thought that occurs to me is that the current system seems to eliminate candidates like Scott Walker who might have done pretty well in parts of the country that, as it happened, didn’t get to vote while he was still in the running. The current system seems so random.

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  6. Josh Farnsworth Member
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    Man With the Axe:Another thought that occurs to me is that the current system seems to eliminate candidates like Scott Walker who might have done pretty well in parts of the country that, as it happened, didn’t get to vote while he was still in the running. The current system seems so random.

    A very good point.  It is very difficult to get fifty states and fifty parties and the national party and the candidates to agree/disagree on what the best system would be.  Iowa and NH will doggedly defend their status as firsts, how do we get around that without pushing their contests to be too early?

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  7. Man With the Axe Inactive
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    I don’t see why the nominating process can’t mirror the election process. There could be a series of debates over some few months, during which time the candidates campaign wherever they want, and then everyone votes, using the method described in the OP. Someone wins the nomination, and then the general election campaign begins. It would be quicker, cheaper, and everyone’s vote counts.

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  8. Josh Farnsworth Member
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    Man With the Axe:I don’t see why the nominating process can’t mirror the election process. There could be a series of debates over some few months, during which time the candidates campaign wherever they want, and then everyone votes, using the method described in the OP. Someone wins the nomination, and then the general election campaign begins. It would be quicker, cheaper, and everyone’s vote counts.

    The hard part would be finding a date that fits the existing election schedule in all of the states and territories.  I am assuming that is why it is incremental over a period of half a year the way it is now.

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  9. Man With the Axe Inactive
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    Josh Farnsworth:

    The hard part would be finding a date that fits the existing election schedule in all of the states and territories. I am assuming that is why it is incremental over a period of half a year the way it is now.

    It would be “Primary Election Day,” a national holiday, and would be no different from Election Day. It could be be the first Tuesday after the first Monday in May.

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    Man With the Axe:

    Josh Farnsworth:

    The hard part would be finding a date that fits the existing election schedule in all of the states and territories. I am assuming that is why it is incremental over a period of half a year the way it is now.

    It would be “Primary Election Day,” a national holiday, and would be no different from Election Day. It could be be the first Tuesday after the first Monday in May.

    Some states wouldn’t agree, and they have the power under the Constitution to disagree.  How would you convince them it’s a good system, locally?

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  11. Man With the Axe Inactive
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    Josh Farnsworth:

    Some states wouldn’t agree, and they have the power under the Constitution to disagree. How would you convince them it’s a good system, locally?

    I think the parties could do whatever they want. As it stands, the states run primaries, but the parties run caucuses. The parties decide how delegates are to be assigned. So the party could decide that all the states would have caucuses on the same day, and they would count the votes for delegates as described in the OP, and it could be winner takes all, or some kind of proportionality. Either would work.

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  12. Brad2971 Member
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    Z in MT:Why is it that even constitutional conservatives are willing to throw out the Federalist baby with the bathwater when they believe they have a scheme that will produce an outcome they desire?

    I likes my antiquated, different-in-every-state primary process and I will brook no meddling, centralized control of the primary process.

    Even though, for the vast majority of those different-in-every-states, the primary/caucus process has only been around since the 1972 election?

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  13. Bob Thompson Member
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    Josh Farnsworth:

    Some states wouldn’t agree, and they have the power under the Constitution to disagree. How would you convince them it’s a good system, locally?

    Is this an issue to be administered or decided by state government? I haven’t tried to research this but I remain puzzled by the conversation since I thought political parties are private organizations.

    Can someone here explain exactly what is the role of a state in the process a political party uses to select delegates for a national convention?

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  14. Man With the Axe Inactive
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    Bob Thompson:

    Can someone here explain exactly what is the role of a state in the process a political party uses to select delegates for a national convention?

    My understanding is that the state runs the primary, but it’s up to the party to decide if they want to participate, or run something of its own, like the caucus.

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  15. Bob Thompson Member
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    Man With the Axe:

    Bob Thompson:

    Can someone here explain exactly what is the role of a state in the process a political party uses to select delegates for a national convention?

    My understanding is that the state runs the primary, but it’s up to the party to decide if they want to participate, or run something of its own, like the caucus. If the decision is to have a primary, what then governs whether it is open or closed, since this is more a policy issue.

    Does this mean the state is involved only operationally (presumably because they already have the existing voting mechanism for elections) and if the Party decides not to have a primary there is no state role?

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  16. Bob Thompson Member
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    Bob Thompson:

    Man With the Axe:

    Bob Thompson:

    Can someone here explain exactly what is the role of a state in the process a political party uses to select delegates for a national convention?

    My understanding is that the state runs the primary, but it’s up to the party to decide if they want to participate, or run something of its own, like the caucus. If the decision is to have a primary, what then governs whether it is open or closed, since this is more a policy issue.

    Does this mean the state is involved only operationally (presumably because they already have the existing voting mechanism for elections) and if the Party decides not to have a primary there is no state role?

    And if there is to be a primary, where is the decision made regarding ‘open’ or ‘closed’?

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  17. Man With the Axe Inactive
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    Bob Thompson:

    Does this mean the state is involved only operationally (presumably because they already have the existing voting mechanism for elections) and if the Party decides not to have a primary there is no state role?

    Actually, I think it’s up to the state to decide, not the party.

    The rules of the caucus seem to be so different from a primary that it appears the state has nothing to do with it. For example, at some caucuses supporters can get up and make speeches for their candidate before the voting. Can’t do that at a primary.

    It does seem that the state can determine how delegates are selected, but if it doesn’t then party rules prevail. This is the best answer I can find. I’m not 100% confident that it’s right.

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  18. Bob Thompson Member
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    Man With the Axe:

    Bob Thompson:

    Does this mean the state is involved only operationally (presumably because they already have the existing voting mechanism for elections) and if the Party decides not to have a primary there is no state role?

    Actually, I think it’s up to the state to decide, not the party.

    The rules of the caucus seem to be so different from a primary that it appears the state has nothing to do with it. For example, at some caucuses supporters can get up and make speeches for their candidate before the voting. Can’t do that at a primary.

    It does seem that the state can determine how delegates are selected, but if it doesn’t then party rules prevail. This is the best answer I can find. I’m not 100% confident that it’s right.

    At my precinct’s caucus in Utah we had more than 200 participants  and sent 5 delegates to the county convention, unbound. There they select delegates to the State convention. After we selected delegates at the caucus, then we voted individually for either Cruz, Trump, or Kasich. Our 5 delegates gave short talks and 4 were for Cruz and 1 for Kasich.

    It’s evident to me why Cruz wins caucus states and Trump does better in open primaries. Trump attracts a lot of votes from people who watch reality TV and Cruz attracts those active in conservative politics.

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  19. Man With the Axe Inactive
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    Bob Thompson: Trump attracts a lot of votes from people who watch reality TV

    It annoys the heck out of me that these people get as many votes as I do.

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  20. Bob Thompson Member
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    Man With the Axe:

    Bob Thompson: Trump attracts a lot of votes from people who watch reality TV

    It annoys the heck out of me that these people get as many votes as I do.

    They each get one vote but there’s a lot of them.

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