The 15:17 to Paris

 

Clint Eastwood is making a movie about the terrorist train attack that was thwarted by three Americans, two service members and all proficient in martial arts, when the terrorist’s AK-47 incredibly seized up giving them time to rush him and eventually subdue and hogtie him. According to news accounts, the three Americans will be played by themselves. Whoa! I can’t wait!

Here’s a video from Brazilian jiu-jitsu practitioners the Gracie brothers explaining how the men were able to go from zero to 60 to respond to the terrorist effectively. Also how to tie up a bad guy:

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  1. Columbo Member
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    According to news accounts, the three Americans will be played by themselves. Whoa! I can’t wait!

    Exactly! How cool is that! It reminds me that in selecting the actors for the most awesome film Miracle … they chose actual hockey players instead of professional actors.

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  2. Ralphie Inactive
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    I hope Eastwood does it justice. These are the stories we need.  As Billy Wilder once said, you just need to tell a story, not lecture or moralize.

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  3. genferei Member
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    BJJ rocks.

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  4. Jerome Danner Inactive
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    I am intrigued!

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  5. Valiuth Inactive
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    I always look forward to Eastwood movies.

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  6. Titus Techera Contributor
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    @franksoto, what say you?

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  7. FS Contributor
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    Titus Techera (View Comment):
    @franksoto, what say you?

    Random thoughts.

    1. You have to either escape or fight back in a situation like this.  There is no escape on a train, so you must fight.  Most people’s natural reaction is basically to ball up on the ground.  It’s never the correct answer.
    2. For any attack aside from a literal “give me your wallet” mugging, always fight back.  The bad man won’t leave you alone if you behave in any other type of attack.
    3. They were lucky the gun jammed.  All probably would have been killed otherwise.
    4. Knives are terrifying, and even the best defenses are a crap shoot against them.
    5. After a man has done Jiu-Jitsu for about 3 years he is basically invulnerable to an unarmed, untrained attacker.  100lb weight differences mean nothing by that point.  You either know how to grapple or you don’t.  If you don’t, you are getting choked unconscious.
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  8. Nanda Panjandrum Member
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    Thanks, MT!  An online friend in London (Kensington) is a purple belt…He’s quite motivating.

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  9. Matt Bartle Member
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    I’m going to remember that: “Manage the distance, manage the danger.”

    Someone mentioned on another thread once that all fights become grappling eventually.

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  10. Titus Techera Contributor
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    There’s one great BJJ movie featuring some of the Gracies (or maybe they were just advising on the fights) I always recommend to conservatives: David Mamet’s Redbelt.

    As for the Eastwood movie, let me recommend my essay on his legacy of civic virtue & manliness.

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  11. genferei Member
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    Titus Techera (View Comment):
    There’s one great BJJ movie … I always recommend to conservatives: David Mamet’s Redbelt.

    Wikipedia says David Mamet has a purple belt. Who knew? (Well, anyone who reads Wikipedia, I guess.) From Renato Magno (who got his black from Carlinhos Gracie, Jr).

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  12. Titus Techera Contributor
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    genferei (View Comment):

    Titus Techera (View Comment):
    There’s one great BJJ movie … I always recommend to conservatives: David Mamet’s Redbelt.

    Wikipedia says David Mamet has a purple belt. Who knew? (Well, anyone who reads Wikipedia, I guess.) From Renato Magno (who got his black from Carlinhos Gracie, Jr).

    Yeah, he’s been training for a very long time. He started doing it because of a friend–actor Ed O’Neill.

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  13. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    Titus Techera (View Comment):
    There’s one great BJJ movie featuring some of the Gracies (or maybe they were just advising on the fights) I always recommend to conservatives: David Mamet’s Redbelt.

    As for the Eastwood movie, let me recommend my essay on his legacy of civic virtue & manliness.

    I second the recommendation!

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  14. FS Contributor
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    genferei (View Comment):

    Titus Techera (View Comment):
    There’s one great BJJ movie … I always recommend to conservatives: David Mamet’s Redbelt.

    Wikipedia says David Mamet has a purple belt. Who knew? (Well, anyone who reads Wikipedia, I guess.) From Renato Magno (who got his black from Carlinhos Gracie, Jr).

    For the record, this means David Mamet would probably crush me in a fight.

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  15. FS Contributor
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    Titus Techera (View Comment):

    genferei (View Comment):

    Titus Techera (View Comment):
    There’s one great BJJ movie … I always recommend to conservatives: David Mamet’s Redbelt.

    Wikipedia says David Mamet has a purple belt. Who knew? (Well, anyone who reads Wikipedia, I guess.) From Renato Magno (who got his black from Carlinhos Gracie, Jr).

    Yeah, he’s been training for a very long time. He started doing it because of a friend–actor Ed O’Neill.

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  16. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    Has everyone checked out policehobbles.com yet?

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  17. cirby Inactive
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    So… the rifle jammed, so they took it away and started hitting him with it. Hm.

    Then he pulled the pistol, and one of the guys disarmed him. Great.

    Then someone started hitting him with the pistol.

    What?

    At the very least, hitting someone with a loaded firearm is probably a very dim idea. If not for the threat of accidental discharge, then for the chance he might break loose and get his hands on the pistol or rifle again. The sort of guy who does such poor maintenance (Jammed AK? That takes some effort.) won’t have the best-quality pistol in the world either.

    If you’re not able to use the firearm in the fight, clear it out, don’t keep it in close to use for a club. Grab it and run, or at least get it out of his reach – and the reach of other possible bad guys.

     

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  18. Titus Techera Contributor
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    FS (View Comment):

    genferei (View Comment):

    Titus Techera (View Comment):
    There’s one great BJJ movie … I always recommend to conservatives: David Mamet’s Redbelt.

    Wikipedia says David Mamet has a purple belt. Who knew? (Well, anyone who reads Wikipedia, I guess.) From Renato Magno (who got his black from Carlinhos Gracie, Jr).

    For the record, this means David Mamet would probably crush me in a fight.

    He did it to lead actor Chiewetel Ejiofor, who does a great job acting, which apparently got to his head. After whatever months-long course of training, he issued a challenge. It did not work out.

    Thanks for the video–I had no idea John Milius was also doing BJJ. Wow!

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