About Mr. Fauci

 

Yes, he admits that he lies to us in order to manipulate us into behaving in particular ways.

Yes, he apparently dissembles to Congress about his involvement in extraordinarily irresponsible research projects in China.

Yes, he might have a hand, indirectly, in creating the Wuhan coronavirus and in torturing dogs.

Those are all bad.

But he’s a fraud. He’s a bad scientist, a hack who misrepresents the state of our knowledge to score political points. A poseur.

A fraud.


In the when-does-Fauci-thank-God-leave-office pool, I’m guessing January 12, 2022.

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  1. Chris O Coolidge
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    Senator Paul and he exchanged pleasantries and light conversation again. The Senator pointed out the NIH website changed its definition of “Gain of Function” after the Fauci Funding Fiasco was confirmed. Fauci commenced denials.

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  2. James Lileks Contributor
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    At my local gift shop they sold mugs with his picture and the letters WWFD? Right next to the NRBG votive candles.

    They had such faith. 

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  3. The Cynthonian Inactive
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    Why January 2022?  What is the significance of that date?

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  4. Henry Racette Member
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    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    Why January 2022? What is the significance of that date?

    None. I just wanted to put a marker down.

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  5. BDB Inactive
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    I was pleased to see rambling Senator Bumstead (or whatever) from Alabamily get Fauci to admit under oath (or whatever) that if China had been more forthcoming, we (the US and the world) would not be in this mess.  Not sure if that’s news or if that suthun gentlemun is just a smooth operator.

    Harrumph.

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  6. Chris O Coolidge
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    Why January 2022? What is the significance of that date?

    None. I just wanted to put a marker down.

    If he wants to “spend more time with family,” I’ll take December 3, 2021 for the announcement, after the work day.

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  7. Flicker Coolidge
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    I agree with everything that you say, in tone and content.  But… just this morning I was feeling sorry for Facui.  I really think he didn’t know what the vaccine, the ones he had pushed the production of for so long, would be hurting and killing people.

    I thought this because I just had a conversation in which I mentioned two professional cricket players (I think) who collapsed on the field with heart conditions.  And the person I was talking to mentioned another couple of different athletes who have been diagnosed with heart conditions.  And we each knew of someone on twitter who said that the vaccine had affected them; one a pro athlete who developed a brain problem (as he said, due to the vaccine) and has had to give up the sport for life, and another whose son was just hospitalized due to a heart irregularity (as he said, after his second shot) but he said that this is extremely rare and that still we all should get the vaccines.

    And there have been two articles out today (I believe they were different articles) one about a hospital and another about hospitals in general, which are so crowded with non-covid, youngish, vaccinated patients with heart and clotting conditions and such, that they have patients on stretchers in the hallways.

    If Facui didn’t know this, he knows it now.  And if he was bamboozled into advocating a vaccine that he really thought was safe, I wonder if he feels bad about it.

    Added:  I just watched Facui testifying before Rand Paul and I take back 95% of my sympathy for him.  And I still keep the first sentence.

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  8. Buckpasser Member
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    I want in on this action!  I say Bozo The Fauci leaves Jan. 3rd.  Isn’t the 4th when President Brandon joebidenstan starts his mandate?

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  9. Doctor Robert Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    And there have been two articles out today (I believe they were different articles) one about a hospital and another about hospitals in general, which are so crowded with non-covid, youngish, vaccinated patients with heart and clotting conditions and such, that they have patients on stretchers in the hallways.

    May we have these citations please?

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  10. Hammer, The (Ryan M) Inactive
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    I don’t believe he will ever willingly leave office.  The man has no shame, and in a sense, he has no self-respect.  Self-respect requires a certain sense of self-awareness, and I believe that so many years as a mindless bureaucrat has eliminated any self-awareness that he ever possessed.  He will have to be removed, and that likely won’t happen until we have, in the very least, Republican majorities, and likely a Republican president.

    I believe that we should be holding nuremberg-style hearings that involve most “public health” experts and democratic governors who have ignored our various constitutions for going on two years.  I would favor hanging my own governor (Inslee) in the public square to make an example of him, but that is obviously just a fantasy.  There being hell to pay for all of these people who have destroyed our constitutional republic and so many lives is the only appropriate response – and it will never happen.  The most likely outcome is that Fauci will retire with a ridiculous pension and continue to live off of taxpayers for the remainder of his days.

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  11. Flicker Coolidge
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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    And there have been two articles out today (I believe they were different articles) one about a hospital and another about hospitals in general, which are so crowded with non-covid, youngish, vaccinated patients with heart and clotting conditions and such, that they have patients on stretchers in the hallways.

    May we have these citations please?

    My memory was not quite right, but kind of close.

    Something Very Weird Happening in Western Australia – Hospitals Overwhelmed, Vaccinations Continue But They Have No COVID

    Something Really Strange Is Happening At Hospitals All Over America

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  12. Flicker Coolidge
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    Hammer, The (Ryan M) (View Comment):

    I don’t believe he will ever willingly leave office. The man has no shame, and in a sense, he has no self-respect. Self-respect requires a certain sense of self-awareness, and I believe that so many years as a mindless bureaucrat has eliminated any self-awareness that he ever possessed. He will have to be removed, and that likely won’t happen until we have, in the very least, Republican majorities, and likely a Republican president.

    I believe that we should be holding nuremberg-style hearings that involve most “public health” experts and democratic governors who have ignored our various constitutions for going on two years. I would favor hanging my own governor (Inslee) in the public square to make an example of him, but that is obviously just a fantasy. There being hell to pay for all of these people who have destroyed our constitutional republic and so many lives is the only appropriate response – and it will never happen. The most likely outcome is that Fauci will retire with a ridiculous pension and continue to live off of taxpayers for the remainder of his days.

    I do still feel a little sorry for him, though.  He obviously feels the heat burning his toes.  He talks like he’s fighting for his life, not just his reputation.

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  13. BDB Inactive
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    I do still feel a little sorry for him, though.  He obviously feels the heat burning his toes.  He talks like he’s fighting for his life, not just his reputation.

    He has nothing to fear.  As if ALL OF SCIENCE had toes to burn.

    I spit.

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  14. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    At my local gift shop they sold mugs with his picture and the letters WWFD? Right next to the NRBG votive candles.

    They had such faith.

    At Lark Toys in Kellogg. They had Fauci votives, too. I was mortifed.

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  15. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    He talks like he’s fighting for his life, not just his reputation.

    We should be so lucky.

    I listened to this exchange, and Frankenfauci still insists this virus was natural in origin, and brazenly stated he bore no responsibility.

    It’s getting harder and harder for him to keep the horns and pointed tail hidden.

     

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  16. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    Fauci is not “in office”.  He is a Civil Servant who has been in his very-highly-paid job for over 30 years.  He needs to be removed from his position right now.  How about Dr. Scott Atlas as his replacement?

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  17. BDB Inactive
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    Fauci is not “in office”. He is a Civil Servant who has been in his very-highly-paid job for over 30 years. He needs to be removed from his position right now. How about Dr. Scott Atlas as his replacement?

    Or NOBODY?

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  18. GlenEisenhardt Member
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    Fauci has caused more damage than any bureaucrat in history and Trump should have fired him when he had the chance. This is one of the big reasons I feel Trump’s time is over and we need a new nominee.

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  19. Henry Racette Member
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Fauci has caused more damage than any bureaucrat in history and Trump should have fired him when he had the chance. This is one of the big reasons I feel Trump’s time is over and we need a new nominee.

    I agree that Fauci is probably the worst error of the Trump administration. However, realistically, I’m not sure President Trump could have removed him from his position without suffering devastating political damage that would have reverberated down-ticket. He was already demonized for his handling of the Wuhan coronavirus, despite having better instincts about it, I think, than most other people in public life. He would have been torn apart by the press.

    I still wish he had. I wish he’d embraced the Great Barrington people and put them in charge of public health decision-making. If he’d had competent advisors, he might have done that. But he had too much going on in his world to do it all himself, and little competent support.

    That’s his fault, ultimately. But, as I’ve said elsewhere, President Trump has received vastly more blame than he deserved, and I don’t want to add to that.

    Fauci is the worst kind of technocratic authoritarian: dishonest, vain, disrespectful of science and the scientific process, and ultimately incompetent.

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  20. GlenEisenhardt Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    Fauci is the worst kind of technocratic authoritarian: dishonest, vain, disrespectful of science and the scientific process, and ultimately incompetent.

    Fauci is emblematic of most of the ruling class of this country. Intellectuals, academics, managerial elites, bureaucrats with clout, and politicians. So many of them are exactly this and are the main reason for most of the problems we have. Their theories and schemes have turned out the same way Fauci’s handling of the pandemic has turned out. Whether it be Chinese trade, social justice schemes, foreign policy, etc. All follow the same predictable pattern of failure. Like you said “dishonest, vain, and ultimately incompetent.”

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  21. Henry Racette Member
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    Fauci is the worst kind of technocratic authoritarian: dishonest, vain, disrespectful of science and the scientific process, and ultimately incompetent.

    Fauci is emblematic of most of the ruling class of this country. Intellectuals, academics, managerial elites, bureaucrats with clout, and politicians. So many of them are exactly this and are the main reason for most of the problems we have. Their theories and schemes have turned out the same way Fauci’s handling of the pandemic has turned out. Whether it be Chinese trade, social justice schemes, foreign policy, etc. All follow the same predictable pattern of failure. Like you said “dishonest, vain, and ultimately incompetent.”

    While I agree in spirit with your comment, Glen, I actually think that the technocratic authoritarian is fairly new. Silicon Valley is full of them, but otherwise we’ve been spared most of this particular kind of creature. We haven’t had big public health emergencies, and for the most part we’ve been able to avoid the clutches of the hyper-educated do-gooder.

    But I talk to a fair number of young, affluent, well-educated technical professionals, people in IT and climate science and west coast startups. They sing a new tune, compared to the officious bureaucrats we’re used to. These people think it’s a virtue to silence “inexpert” opinion. They think “misinformation” is the great danger we face, and nothing is more important than enforcing the responsible scientific consensus.

    It’s born, I think, of the arrogance of having no experience in the real world, of living in a technological fantasy land where search algorithms and artificial intelligence and petaflops and third-round venture funding are what matters, and people in flyover country are ignorant hicks who don’t know what’s good for them and have to be told.

    They’re hyper-educated fools with the best of intentions.

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  22. Flicker Coolidge
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    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    Fauci is the worst kind of technocratic authoritarian: dishonest, vain, disrespectful of science and the scientific process, and ultimately incompetent.

    Fauci is emblematic of most of the ruling class of this country. Intellectuals, academics, managerial elites, bureaucrats with clout, and politicians. So many of them are exactly this and are the main reason for most of the problems we have. Their theories and schemes have turned out the same way Fauci’s handling of the pandemic has turned out. Whether it be Chinese trade, social justice schemes, foreign policy, etc. All follow the same predictable pattern of failure. Like you said “dishonest, vain, and ultimately incompetent.”

    Maybe the people with the best ideas for governing and the best attitudes toward government are those who are among the least interested in governing.  Maybe that’s because the political environment is so unpleasant.

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  23. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    Fauci is the worst kind of technocratic authoritarian: dishonest, vain, disrespectful of science and the scientific process, and ultimately incompetent.

    Fauci is emblematic of most of the ruling class of this country. Intellectuals, academics, managerial elites, bureaucrats with clout, and politicians. So many of them are exactly this and are the main reason for most of the problems we have. Their theories and schemes have turned out the same way Fauci’s handling of the pandemic has turned out. Whether it be Chinese trade, social justice schemes, foreign policy, etc. All follow the same predictable pattern of failure. Like you said “dishonest, vain, and ultimately incompetent.”

    While I agree in spirit with your comment, Glen, I actually think that the technocratic authoritarian is fairly new. Silicon Valley is full of them, but otherwise we’ve been spared most of this particular kind of creature. We haven’t had big public health emergencies, and for the most part we’ve been able to avoid the clutches of the hyper-educated do-gooder.

    But I talk to a fair number of young, affluent, well-educated technical professionals, people in IT and climate science and west coast startups. They sing a new tune, compared to the officious bureaucrats we’re used to. These people think it’s a virtue to silence “inexpert” opinion. They think “misinformation” is the great danger we face, and nothing is more important than enforcing the responsible scientific consensus.

    It’s born, I think, of the arrogance of having no experience in the real world, of living in a technological fantasy land where search algorithms and artificial intelligence and petaflops and third-round venture funding are what matters, and people in flyover country are ignorant hicks who don’t know what’s good for them and have to be told.

    They’re hyper-educated fools with the best of intentions.

    Actually, the “technocratic authoritarian” was a concept introduced in the early 20th Century by the Progressive movement.  I did learn in  Constitution 101 that the Progressives believed (and still do) that society was best governed by the party of technocrats, who know exactly what actions and policies on their part are best for ensuring the best results for society-equal distribution of wealth, and happiness.  Unfortunately, the Progressives’ huge blind spot, then and now, is the one quality of humanity that they do not acknowledge: Human Nature.  They firmly believe that the average person is so ignorant and stupid that he is incapable of living his own life, without the constant guidance of the ruling class.  The ruins of many societies testify to the emptiness and evil of that movement.

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  24. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Fauci is the worst kind of technocratic authoritarian: dishonest, vain, disrespectful of science and the scientific process, and ultimately incompetent.

    Don’t forget “one of history’s greatest mass murderers.”

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  25. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    While I agree in spirit with your comment, Glen, I actually think that the technocratic authoritarian is fairly new.

    Actually, the “technocratic authoritarian” was a concept introduced in the early 20th Century by the Progressive movement. I did learn in Constitution 101 that the Progressives believed (and still do) that society was best governed by the party of technocrats, who know exactly what actions and policies on their part are best for ensuring the best results for society-equal distribution of wealth, and happiness.

    Yes, exactly. It’s the same mindset that gave birth to execrable nonsense like eugenics. They believed the right kind of people (think “breeding”) in the right positions (think “dictatorial power”) free from traditional societal constraints (think “religious values”) can bring about a glorious utopia, without all those dirty poors and mongrel races.

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  26. BDB Inactive
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    Fauci is the worst kind of technocratic authoritarian: dishonest, vain, disrespectful of science and the scientific process, and ultimately incompetent.

    Fauci is emblematic of most of the ruling class of this country. Intellectuals, academics, managerial elites, bureaucrats with clout, and politicians. So many of them are exactly this and are the main reason for most of the problems we have. Their theories and schemes have turned out the same way Fauci’s handling of the pandemic has turned out. Whether it be Chinese trade, social justice schemes, foreign policy, etc. All follow the same predictable pattern of failure. Like you said “dishonest, vain, and ultimately incompetent.”

    While I agree in spirit with your comment, Glen, I actually think that the technocratic authoritarian is fairly new. Silicon Valley is full of them, but otherwise we’ve been spared most of this particular kind of creature. We haven’t had big public health emergencies, and for the most part we’ve been able to avoid the clutches of the hyper-educated do-gooder.

    But I talk to a fair number of young, affluent, well-educated technical professionals, people in IT and climate science and west coast startups. They sing a new tune, compared to the officious bureaucrats we’re used to. These people think it’s a virtue to silence “inexpert” opinion. They think “misinformation” is the great danger we face, and nothing is more important than enforcing the responsible scientific consensus.

    It’s born, I think, of the arrogance of having no experience in the real world, of living in a technological fantasy land where search algorithms and artificial intelligence and petaflops and third-round venture funding are what matters, and people in flyover country are ignorant hicks who don’t know what’s good for them and have to be told.

    They’re hyper-educated fools with the best of intentions.

    Actually, the “technocratic authoritarian” was a concept introduced in the early 20th Century by the Progressive movement. I did learn in Constitution 101 that the Progressives believed (and still do) that society was best governed by the party of technocrats, who know exactly what actions and policies on their part are best for ensuring the best results for society-equal distribution of wealth, and happiness. Unfortunately, the Progressives’ huge blind spot, then and now, is the one quality of humanity that they do not acknowledge: Human Nature. They firmly believe that the average person is so ignorant and stupid that he is incapable of living his own life, without the constant guidance of the ruling class. The ruins of many societies testify to the emptiness and evil of that movement.

    And techno- or no, this goes back to (among other things) the “Philosopher King”.  I’m utterly Sowellian about my definitions of Conservative and Progressive, a la Conflict of Visions.

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  27. Henry Racette Member
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    Actually, the “technocratic authoritarian” was a concept introduced in the early 20th Century by the Progressive movement.  

    RB, that’s fair. In fact, I guess it probably goes back to China and its Mandarin class, if we want to think of it as the professional bureaucratic elite. But you’re right that I spoke too casually: it isn’t “new.” What I think is new is its recent explosion beyond the boundaries of government departments. We’ve had economic advisors and the like working inside government for a century or more. Now we have an entire class within the private sector dedicated to telling us what is true, confident that any other view is either untrue or somehow harmful and worthy of suppression.

    Climate change, big tech information control, and what we generously refer to as “public health” are now the realms where ersatz experts attempt to tell us how to live, and feel entitled to punish anyone who dares express disagreement.

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  28. BDB Inactive
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    Actually, the “technocratic authoritarian” was a concept introduced in the early 20th Century by the Progressive movement.

    RB, that’s fair. In fact, I guess it probably goes back to China and its Mandarin class, if we want to think of it as the professional bureaucratic elite. But you’re right that I spoke too casually: it isn’t “new.” What I think is new is its recent explosion beyond the boundaries of government departments. We’ve had economic advisors and the like working inside government for a century or more. Now we have an entire class within the private sector dedicated to telling us what is true, confident that any other view is either untrue or somehow harmful and worthy of suppression.

    Climate change, big tech information control, and what we generously refer to as “public health” are now the realms where ersatz experts attempt to tell us how to live, and feel entitled to punish anyone who dares express disagreement.

    What’s new is their ability, through technology, to get their way without having to win elections, or to win elections through propaganda dominance, combined with a purge/chill informed and enabled by the surveillance state.

    There is much that is new.  Old dreams of conquest feeling the oats of new weaponry.

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  29. kedavis Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    At my local gift shop they sold mugs with his picture and the letters WWFD? Right next to the NRBG votive candles.

    They had such faith.

    At Lark Toys in Kellogg. They had Fauci votives, too. I was mortifed.

    Maybe those can be used in the future to pray FOR them, not TO them.

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  30. BDB Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    At my local gift shop they sold mugs with his picture and the letters WWFD? Right next to the NRBG votive candles.

    They had such faith.

    At Lark Toys in Kellogg. They had Fauci votives, too. I was mortifed.

    Maybe those can be used in the future to pray FOR them, not TO them.

    Depends.  Can I pray for painful prolonged death( for a third party, to be sure?)

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