You Want To Win The Debate, But You Also Want To Win The Post-Debate
No one won this debate. And I suppose you could interpret that as me saying that Rep. Paul Ryan lost. But you'd be wrong. I think Vice President Joe Biden lost by being horribly belligerent and unserious. Ryan lost by not aggressively responding to Biden. And Martha Raddatz lost by interrupting at inappropriate times.
But allow me to revisit something I said during the debate:
Tonight, Joe Biden is embodying everything that women hate about talking with men.
I generally don't get into "gender" discussions. They usually don't interest me. But at some point in the live chat, I just pulled gender rank and let the men know that Biden's demeanor was not going over well with the ladies.
The truth is that we've all been there -- and that goes for women and men -- where you're having a conversation with someone awful. Maybe he's drunk. Maybe he's just a jerk or suffering from low self-esteem. But whatever the back story, the result is that he's condescending, thinks he knows far more than he does and interrupts you when you're making a point. It's not enjoyable.
I'm even willing to give this debate to Biden, in the very short term. But in the long term, I bet he lost it. Think about what will stay with people after the debate. They'll remember a rude, interrupting man.
I have no doubt that these things will fire up the Democratic base. They were looking to get fired up and Biden showed some passion.
But think about how it comes off to women. Heck, think about how it comes off to average Midwesterners. Does that persona age well?
The talk shows, I imagine, will have plenty to poke fun of Biden about. Or as someone on Twitter put it:
You want to win the debate. Biden might have eked something out there. (I don't know. I'm the weird voter who wanted Paul Ryan to say that Americans shouldn't invade other countries for "humanitarian" reasons. ) But you need to win the post-debate, too.
While the media might enjoy the narrative shift for a few hours, I think it's going to be hard to overcome Biden's many misstatements, his blustering persona, and his shocking lack of seriousness about the office he holds and the problems we face.