I don't recommend lying. Even if it weren't a sin, it reflects poorly on your character.

But if you're going to lie, at least be smart about it. Here are some tips:

--Don't publicly claim someone else said something they didn't.

--And don't deny you made remarks and accuse a reporter of making it up if he has audio tape.

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Paul A. Rahe

Is there any chance that she will lose her re-election bid? The public exposure that she is getting ought to provide an opportunity for an insurgent, and symbolic victories of this sort can serve a real purpose in encouraging the survivors to cooperate.

Edited on September 5, 2012 at 6:24pm
Barkha Herman
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Barkha Herman

Debbie WS has bigger [redacted for Code of Conduct] than most politicians I know.  She should go into academia - she will get paid lots of money to do one thing that she does so well- lie with confidence!

Here's a woman that is not pleasant to look at, particularly grating to listen to - and lies repeatedly, in print (the Queen of Media / oops, Anderson Cooper edition),  on tape (the current controversy).  But does any of this phase her?  Nooooo... This woman can lie!

Edited on September 5, 2012 at 5:10pm
Fred Cole
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Fred Cole

It just annoys me when people are obviously unskilled at their jobs.

EJHill
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EJHill

Stupidity knows no bounds. You don't even have to be a person in a public position to understand that the potential of an electronic record existing of everything you say and do is extremely high in today's world of cheap, small digital recording devices.

The "I was misquoted" or "It was taken out of context" defense is really no defense.

Israel P.
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Israel Pickholtz
Fred Cole: It just annoys me when people are obviously unskilled at their jobs. · 0 minutes ago

She is doing her job. Those who sent her seem to think she does it well.

Keith Rice
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Highlama

What we're seeing here is the consequence of a culture deeply mired in relativity.

The question is: Does she actually believe her own lies?

The answer is: Yes, because if there is a way her claims could be seen as truth, they they can be accepted as truth.

This may be why the Democratic message appears to be directed to the uneducated and hypnotized, it is addressing uncritical minds and prefers it that way.

EJHill
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EJHill
Paul A. Rahe: Is there any chance that she will lose her re-election bid?

Unfortunately no. Dr. Rhae, surely you understand one of the basic concept of politics: Yes, he's a lying rat, but he's our lying rat.

Spin
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Ken Owsley

Whenever I see the woman's face, the same words go through my head:  "We wants it, Precious!"  I'm sorry, I'm not trying to attack her personally.  I'm just telling you how I feel!

KC Mulville
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KC Mulville

Highlama:

This may be why the Democratic message appears to be directed to the uneducated and hypnotized, it is addressing uncritical minds and prefers it that way.

That arrow points in both directions. The message may have been intended for the weak-minded, but it also comes from some pretty weak minds as well.

Devereaux
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Devereaux
Fred Cole: It just annoys me when people are obviously unskilled at their jobs. · 5 minutes ago

Inveterate liars live in an alternate reality. They make things up, and then believe them. The fact that they believed something different previously doesn't affect their current sensibility. To them there IS no "past" - only what they are saying now.


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Barbara Kidder

I rather think that, instead of a case of her 'believing her own lies' (which is almost unbelievable!), that she operates on the premise that: 'the end justifies the means'. 

Spin
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Ken Owsley

She sad this in defense of whatever it was she did or did not say about whatever it was that the Michael Oren did or did not say:

And Ambassador Oren has said that we can’t ever suggest that there is any daylight between the two parties on Israel because there isn’t. And that that’s harmful to Israel. That’s what I said, and that is accurate.

We can't suggest there is daylight between the parties on Israel (so we can't call out the differences between the Rs and the Ds?  Or there isn't any differences?)

Thats harmful to Israel  (that there are no differences, that we can't point to the differences, what?)

I really don't understand.  

KC Mulville
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KC Mulville

Well, you see, quoting her directly only gets the letter of the facts right. What we're all missing is the spirit of her facts, which is like, you know, a whole different thing.

Fred Cole
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Fred Cole

Devereaux

Fred Cole: It just annoys me when people are obviously unskilled at their jobs. · 5 minutes ago

Inveterate liars live in an alternate reality. They make things up, and then believe them. The fact that they believed something different previously doesn't affect their current sensibility. To them there IS no "past" - only what they are saying now. · 3 minutes ago

Or alternately: She's just really bad at her job.

ConservativeWanderer
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ConservativeWanderer

But Mollie, reporters are all supposed to be good rank-and-file Democrats, and they're only supposed to call the eeeeeeeeeeeeevil Wepubwicans on their lies, not the oh-so-pure Democrats!

Casey
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Casey

This reminds me of a scene from Strange Brew:

Claude Elsinore:  And I'd like to point out that these tapes have not been faked, or altered in any way. In fact they have time coding, which is very hard to fake.

The Judge:  For the benefit of the court would you please explain "time coding."

Claude Elsinore:  Well, uh... just because I don't know what it is, it doesn't mean I'm lying.

Keith Rice
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Highlama
Barbara Kidder: I rather think that, instead of a case of her 'believing her own lies' (which is almost unbelievable!), that she operates on the premise that: 'the end justifies the means'.  · 15 minutes ago

That's the implication of believing one's own lies. When we condition our minds that our preferred result is the "best truth" anything that creates that end is part of that "best truth".


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Donald Todd

Watching DWS and Axelrod on tv reminds me of the Mary McCarthy line: Every word is a lie, including 'and' and 'the.'  

I did hear the Durban diatribe on Fox as he failed to defend the Dem party plank and instead blamed Fox for something the moderator had not said.  You can add Durban to the "every word is a lie" pantheon of shame.

To borrow from the poet: If you got nothin', you got nothin' to lose.  You're invisible, you got no secrets to call your own.

Albert Arthur
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Albert Arthur

One Anderson Cooper confronted her about using a misleading quote in a fundraising email, basically twisting the quote so much that it was a lie, she responded, "it doesn't matter, Anderson, the point is that Romney is bad for women." 

Yes, the ends justify the means.

Colin B Lane
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Colin B Lane
Barkha Herman: Debbie WS has bigger [redacted for Code of Conduct] than most politicians I know.  

"Bigger [redacted for Code of Conduct]" passed CofC muster. Good to know!

Edited on September 5, 2012 at 5:28pm

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