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Fast and Furious

This week on Lifestyles of The Left Coast and Right Coast, Mickey Kaus goes to a glamourous Hollywood premiere (but won't dish) while Jennifer Rubin embeds herself in the Holder contempt hearings. They also tussle on immigration, the state of the campaign, and how the health care SCOTUS decision may affect the race, and wind up with a lightening round on the middle east. 

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Much thanks to EJHill for the graphic. 

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EJHill
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EJHill

Couldn't we find two better people to insult conservatives? Or did Ed Schultz and Janeane Garofalo want too much money?

Brian Terry dead? So what? A couple hundred dead Mexicans? So what? The only thing that didn't contemptuously roll off of their lips at their descriptions of those on the right that do think this is a big effin' deal were the words bitter clingers. But then those of us who don't have a "coast" are obviously handicapped...

Edited on June 22, 2012 at 3:37pm
Israel P.
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Feb '11
Israel Pickholtz

Jennifer's attitude annoys me more from week to week. Fast and Furious is a good example of why.

As to Mickey's scenario whereby we root for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt so the fever can play itself out, the correct response is "How is that working out for you in Iran?"

Nick Stuart
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May '10
Nick Stuart
As to Mickey's scenario whereby we root for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt so the fever can play itself out, the correct response is "How is that working out for you in Iran?"

Turned the podcast off before I got to this this point. "Left Coast/Lefter Coast" would be a better title. Both speakers need to get outside their bubbles more.

Kervinlee
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Kervinlee

Turned it off after the first five minutes. Wasn't smug and cynical enough for my taste, I guess.

Edited on June 22, 2012 at 6:26pm

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Cylon

Love Mrs. Rubin and this podcast. The people in the bubble are those who spend their entire day deep inside the hard right echo chamber. Rubin understands that the world isn't full of tea partiers and the conspiracy theories the hard right likes to put forth are poison to the conservative movement, just as Buckley did with the Birchers back in the 60s.

Blue Yeti

I see Mickey and Jennifer have inspired some passionate comments here. Good! That's the point of the show. But I can also see that there is some disagreement and maybe a bit of mis-understand as where they are coming from. 

So, for the next show, we'll try something different: we'll let you guys ask questions directly to Mickey and Jennifer. We can't do a live call in show, but I'll post a phone number where you can leave a question. We'll play the questions in the show (I won't share them with Mickey and Jennifer beforehand) and they'll answer them live. Should be interesting. 

P.S. You'll have to be a Ricochet member in order to ask a question (the call-in number will only be posted on the Member Feed). Not a member? Join today!

Edited on June 22, 2012 at 9:22pm

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chuck wicker

I was so discouraged by the cavalier treatment of the Fast and Furious gun running scandal by Jennifer Rubin that I have no interest in listening to this podcast again.   By the same token, I was so entertained by the conversation be Ron Delingpole and Tim Stanley on the Free Delingpole podcast that I am looking forward to the next one.

Blue Yeti
chuck wicker: I was so discouraged by the cavalier treatment of the Fast and Furious gun running scandal by Jennifer Rubin that I have no interest in listening to this podcast again.   By the same token, I was so entertained by the conversation be Ron Delingpole and Tim Stanley on the Free Delingpole podcast that I am looking forward to the next one. · 3 hours ago

We'll have a new RFD next week. But be sure to catch James Delingpole on this week's Ricochet Podcast. 

ChristmasBeard
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ChristmasBeard
chuck wicker: ... I have no interest in listening to this podcast again. 

I stopped listening to this podcast ages ago but I still check the discussion for it once in a while to see if other members are still listening and whether or not they're enjoying it. Is Rubin still eating her lunch at the microphone these days?

Stu In Tokyo
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May '11
Stu In Tokyo

Often I do not agree with Jennifer Rubin's take on things, but I do appreciate hearing from her, while her opinions may not always match mine, she is not some dumb talking head, if asked she can back up her ideas with well thought out reasoning, which is often not the same as mine, but still well thought out. I appreciate hearing different points of view, it is a way to sharpen my arguments.
Mickey I just love, he is honest and entertaining, and so very often wrong, in my opinion, but he also is not a typical knee jerk leftist. I think if there were more people like Mickey Kaus in the Democrat party, the USA would be in better shape.

I do enjoy listening to the podcast, even if sometimes I'm shouting back at the speakers and looking for something to throw, but then again I like a decent argument, a discussion, not a mud and excrement throwing party that most political discussion devolve into so quickly.

Jennifer and Mickey, please keep up the good work, I may not agree with you, but I enjoy the podcast!

Edited on June 23, 2012 at 6:17am
Franco
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Franco

The podcast's name is misleading. Mickey Kaus isn't really "left" and Jen Rubin isn't really "right", unless you compare her to the rest of the Washington Post writing staff. I listen because I want to know what the inside-the-beltway breed are ruminating about. Mickey has an interesting take on things sometimes and I like him (he was great in Idiocracy) but he's often ideologically incoherent. I don't think he even knows what he wants.

Then there are the audio issues. Rubin has a voice for print journalism. Compression and equalization plus a little less "edge" and mic proximity would help. 

A better title for the podcast would be Too Smart by Half, with Jen and Mickey.  In this episode they go into an  M.C. Escher labyrinth of which candidate would produce a better result on immigration based on a hypothetical electoral calculus.  My head was spinning with the abstractions, hypotheticals and ignored realities. It's all very interesting as long as you don't have to actually arrive

I gain special insights listening to the podcast.

dash
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dash
Gleeful Warrior
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Apr '11
Gleeful Warrior

It's not their perspective that's off putting, different opinions are why I'm prompted to listen.  It's their candid and almost complete ignorance of the details of Fast and Furious while dismissing it's significance that's irritating.

Nick Stuart
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May '10
Nick Stuart

How about letting us also submit questions in writing. I'd seriously be interested in how Mickey Kaus figures we're going to pay for the healthcare insurance approach he seems to favor (everything for everyone whenever they want it).

Geoffrey Leach
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Geoffrey Leach

Mickey, you would have been a better senator than Barbara Boxer, but not that much better.


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darwinsGate

I am quite excited to find that this podcast is included with my "price of a grande-latte" subscription.  I would have joined a long time ago had I known that it included a podcast from Rubin and Kaus.  What a treat.  And the photo-shops are very amusing.  Keep 'em coming.

The webmaster ought to at least let non-members know what 'left coast-right coast" is and who it's hosts are.  Ricochet would get a lot more members that way.

I look forward to this podcast each and every week!

Edited on June 24, 2012 at 12:48am

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Sweet and Low
Cylon: Love Mrs. Rubin and this podcast. The people in the bubble are those who spend their entire day deep inside the hard right echo chamber. Rubin understands that the world isn't full of tea partiers and the conspiracy theories the hard right likes to put forth are poison to the conservative movement, just as Buckley did with the Birchers back in the 60s. · Jun 22 at 10:43am

300 innocent people are dead, including one US Border Guard.  This isn't a conspiracy, this isn't insanity.  It's dead bodies, and destroyed families.  And I've yet to hear a reason for the operation other than "Obama wanted to use gun violence on the border to whip up public support for gun control." 


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Sweet and Low
Blue Yeti: I see Mickey and Jennifer have inspired some passionate comments here. Good! That's the point of the show. But I can also see that there is some disagreement and maybe a bit of mis-understand as where they are coming from. 

"Misunderstand(ing)?"  Because conservatives aren't bright enough to follow Mrs. Bubin's and Mr Kaus' genius?

So, for the next show, we'll try something different: we'll let you guys ask questions directly to Mickey and Jennifer. We can't do a live call in show, but I'll post a phone number where you can leave a question.

OK, here's a question....why should I pay to hear the same views that I can get for free at MS/NBC?  I'm ankle deep with such views from the most of the rest of media...why do we need it here?

Another question - why should I take their advice how to run the world, if they haven't mastered online compression?

Icahnoclast
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Apr '11
Icahnoclast

An example of what we can expect from allowing the Muslim Brotherhood fever to run its course:

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/06/24/222413.html 

One woman. One vote. One time.

Blue Yeti

Sweet and Low

OK, here's a question....why should I pay to hear the same views that I can get for free at MS/NBC?  I'm ankle deep with such views from the most of the rest of media...why do we need it here?

Another question - why should I take their advice how to run the world, if they haven't mastered online compression? · 20 hours ago

MSNBC isn't free, you pay for it as part of your basic cable package. And I don't watch MSNBC, but I doubt you're hearing anything here that you're hearing there. 

Not sure what you mean by online compression, but regardless, Mickey and Jennifer have nothing to do with the way the show sounds. That's my department. If there's a problem, take it up with me. 


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