Troy Senik, Ed. · November 15, 2012 at 12:00am

At his East Room press conference earlier today, President Obama got a question regarding Senators McCain and Graham's statement  (see my post below) that they intend to block a potential nomination for U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice to serve as the next Secretary of State.

The response is notable for two reasons: (1) Obama seems to be arguing that Rice shouldn't be held accountable for not knowing what the hell she was talking about because nobody else in the administration knew what the hell they were talking about either. (2) The "they have a problem with me" line marks the president's final descent into becoming a character from a third-rate Aaron Sorkin screenplay.

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Robert Barraud Taylor
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Robert Barraud Taylor

Ignorance:  the best defense.  After racism.

tabula rasa
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tabula rasa

Sounds like the president considers his victory a mandate to do anything he wants.  Hubris has destroyed greater men than him.  

Time for the Republicans to play hardball.

To Troy's point, hasn't the Obama presidency always looked like an Aaron Sorkin drama?   The difference is that this third rate drama has consequences.

Edited on November 15, 2012 at 12:14am
Deacon Blues
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Deacon Blues

Too much besmirching and disgorging going on in politics these days.


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Jack Richman
Troy Senik, Ed.: .The "they have a problem with me" line marks the president's final descent into becoming a character from a third-rate Aaron Sorkin screenplay. · · 20 minutes ago

He can't handle the truth!


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Albertina

Obama in press conference:  Amb. Rice went on TV Sept.16th at the request of the White House and gave her best understanding of the intelligence that was provided for her.   / Obama in debate (assisted by Candy Crowley):  I called the Benghazi attack terrorism in the Rose Garden on Sept.12th.   / Translation:  I sent her out to peddle a false story, so don't blame her!

Pseudodionysius
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Pseudodionysius

Its getting awfully crowded under the bus. Given the current environment "full blown" is a problematic turn of phrase. Perhaps she's entitled to diplomatic immunity? A czar appointment? 

I. raptus
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I. raptus

Well, it's a positive thing to say, "Look, I'm the boss, if you want to blame someone, blame me."  But as Troy is suggesting, that only begs the question.


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liberal jim

Listen to what Obama said - She gave her UNDERSTANDING of  the intelligence briefing she received.   This is going to be a story of honest misunderstanding.  Intelligence said one thing, but was not quite as specific as they might have been, but Rice's understanding of it was something different.     

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin

I also thought Graham's response was very good:

Mr. President, don’t think for one minute I don’t hold you ultimately responsible for Benghazi.  I think you failed as Commander in Chief before, during, and after the attack,” Graham said in a rapidly issued statement.

“We owe it to the American people and the victims of this attack to have full, fair hearings and accountability be assigned where appropriate,” Graham continued. “Given what I know now, I have no intention of promoting anyone who is up to their eyeballs in the Benghazi debacle.”

Palaeologus
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Palaeologus

I think we can safely conclude that the President prefers to wash his Rice.

Since that little mystery has been wrapped up maybe I won't have to hear anymore about this "Benghazi" place. Wherever that is.

Palaeologus
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Palaeologus
I. raptus: Well, it's a positive thing to say, "Look, I'm the boss, if you want to blame someone, blame me."  But as Troy is suggesting, that only begs the question.

Pleading from behind.

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin

This also tells you that he just doesn't want to talk about Benghazi. I can almost hear him saying "It's a sex scandal now! Let's talk about that!"

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin

So, I've always wondered: when The One gives a press conference, does the White House provide the kneepads, or does the press have to bring their own?


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Clare Day

So, the deaths of Tyrone Woods, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens have gone from 'not optimal' to 'a problem' but the real travesty is that anyone is critical of 'the U.N. Ambassador'. Got it.

Edited on November 16, 2012 at 6:37am

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Chris

The most striking part to me is the suggestion that mean Republicans are bullying this fine, upstanding, WOMAN because they think she is an "easy target" and they aren't man enough to face him.  Attention MSM - this is what a "dog whistle"sounds like.

Chalk up another way it's going to be a long four years....

Palaeologus
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Palaeologus

DrewInWisconsin:

This also tells you that he just doesn't want to talk about Benghazi. I can almost hear him saying "It's a sex scandal now! Let's talk about that!"

Drew, I think Pseud explained this administration's longstanding policy on Troy's other thread.

Edited on November 15, 2012 at 5:06am

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Larry3435

tabula rasa: Sounds like the president considers his victory a mandate to do anything he wants.  Hubris has destroyed greater men than him.  

Time for the Republicans to play hardball.

To Troy's point, hasn't the Obama presidency always looked like an Aaron Sorkin drama?   The difference is that this third rate drama has consequences. · 5 hours ago

Edited 5 hours ago

First, isn't pretty much anyone a "greater man than him"?

Second, I'm going to give Sorkin his due.  Only Newsroom is a third rate drama.  And I use the word "drama" advisedly.  I use the words "third rate" with enthusiasm and gusto.  But I admit, West Wing was pretty good.

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HVTs

Obama emphasizes that Rice "had nothing to do with Benghazi."  So why was she (his words) "making an appearance at the request of the White House" on all the Sunday talk shows specifically to speak about Benghazi? Why didn't he say "I sent her"? 

He thinks he is cleverly reinforcing his six-degrees-of separation strategy to anything that smacks of his personal accountability. Of course, the lapdog media failed with the obvious follow-up:

     'Mr. President, wouldn't it be more accurate to say that you sent Ambassador Rice, instead of implying it was your staff that did so?  And if she had nothing to do with the topic she was sent to speak about, why didn't you send someone who knew what they were talking about? Your critics charge it was because you were deliberately obfuscating the truth, since the Benghazi attack undermined your Administration's claims concerning al Qaeda, you were woefully unprepared for an attack for which ample warning existed, and you failed to respond with force that might have saved four American lives, including your own Ambassador.'

Is that so hard a question for a crack White House correspondent to think of?

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dittoheadadt

Once a community-organizing thug, always a community-organizing thug.  For all his alleged intelligence, he sure hasn't figured out how to adjust his rhetoric for the office he holds.  He can't help but speak in the c-o thug vernacular.

He's a thug, and a not-particularly-bright one at that.


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Retail Lawyer

The problem with Rice is that she is too stupid or gullible to be in government at a rank higher than a clerk.  The "Innocence of Muslims" video and resulting protest does not pass the smell test.  No thinking person could have entertained this theory for more than a few minutes.  This is assuming that she is honest.


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