Ursula Hennessey · Apr 14, 2011 at 1:46pm

I am easily demoralized about politics and the ominous, dirty media cloud that hovers over most every political conversation like Pigpen's dusty shadow.

Why would anyone run for office? Especially if you have kids.

I know, I know. It's about serving others. Working to keep this country great. I get it. Intellectually, but not emotionally.

Today, I've added another category: Why would anyone be a political pundit when you've got the likes of Olbermann on the other side?

Today, Keith Olbermann suggested that conservative female pundit S.E. Cupp's parents should have consulted Planned Parenthood before having their child. You can read all about it here.

I have to block Facebook "friends" who screech things like, "We've reached a new low in politics when [fill in something a Republican or conservative says or does]."

How I'd love to write that Olbermann is the nastiest piece of media scum on earth. There. I said it. Check his Twitter feed if you doubt me.

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Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter

Curious:  "conservative female pundit"

Why the addition of "female" to the description? 

Stuart Creque
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Stuart Creque

And now you know why Keith Olbermann's father died: shame.

AmishDude
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AmishDude

Jimmy Carter: Curious:  "conservative female pundit"

Why the addition of "female" to the description?  · Apr 14 at 1:59pm

'Cause she's hot and it can't be said often enough.

Ursula Hennessey

Jimmy Carter: Curious:  "conservative female pundit"

Why the addition of "female" to the description?  · Apr 14 at 1:59pm

Well, the S.E. is gender neutral. I thought I'd help jog people's memory of her (if they have one) by reminding she's female. Probably not needed, though, you are correct. I was actually more worried about the word "conservative" if that's something she'd call herself. I haven't researched her enough yet. Maybe somewhere in my head I thought that a relevant thing to note since it's rooted in her comments about Planned Parenthood. Who knows? Sorry if it offends you.


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lisa smillie

Like most petulant, anti-social teens Olbermann could not participate with SE Cupp in intelligent debate, so name calling and lame insult are the only choices left.

John Walker
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John Walker

We must take a serious draught of Buck-U-Uppo (the “B”, for elephants) and come to terms that we are confronted not by political adversaries who advocate a different path to a shared goal, but rather an enemy.

Severely Ltd.
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Severely Ltd.

"How I'd love to write that Olbermann is the nastiest piece of media scum on earth."

Ursula, you've stood out as about the most civil and compassionate person on this website, so I'm not going to attribute that remark to malice. I'll just file it under axiomatic  truths.

Ursula Hennessey
Stuart Creque: And now you know why Keith Olbermann's father died: shame. · Apr 14 at 2:00pm

Stuart, you and I, I think, agree on many things. I learn a lot from your comments. You are one of the good things about Ricochet. But this comment is, I fear, just the same kind of thing that Olbermann did/does. If someone said this about my father, who died just about a year ago, I'd be crushed. It hits in a place that shouldn't be touched: One's love for their parents/children/spouse paired with a death reference. It's out of bounds. I know you are just returning the "love" to the despicable KO, but I don't think it's the appropriate response.

Edited on Apr 14, 2011 at 2:21pm
Kennedy Smith
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Kennedy Smith

 I prefer "leggy female pundit", but no accounting for taste.

And refuse to be pinned down by the words "new low" when accorded to the irrelevant, Current-poobah Olbermann.  Shouldn't he have disappeared off our radar screens long before he was fired from MSNBC?  (Savor those last three words).

What, must I now search for something lower?  For my money, the equally irrelevant Bill Maher is more routinely offensive.

Ursula Hennessey

Kennedy Smith:  I prefer "leggy female pundit", but no accounting for taste.

And refuse to be pinned down by the words "new low" when accorded to the irrelevant, Current-poobah Olbermann.  Shouldn't he have disappeared off our radar screens long before he was fired from MSNBC?  (Savor those last three words).

What, must I now search for something lower?  For my money, the equally irrelevant Bill Maher is more routinely offensive. · Apr 14 at 2:24pm

You might be right, Kennedy. Maybe we should steal Olbermann's Worst Person on Earth skit -- is that what it was called? And give him the honorary first award. But, as you point out, a new low -- a new Worst Person -- is crowned each week. It's all just so depressing...


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Jerry Carroll

I think it's a mistake to react to anything to anything Olbermann says. He's trying to build a new audience and controversy is how it's done. Let him swirl down the drain in perfect silence.

Aaron Miller
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Aaron Miller

How long was he a major TV news anchor? How often was he cited by liberal voters?

These are the people Republicans think they can compromise with. Bipartisanship with people who won't even acknowledge your basic humanity, let alone your Constitutional rights, can lead nowhere but down.

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StickerShock

 It's a typcal crude and childish Olbermann comment. 

I don't care for S.E. Cupp and I find her annoying -- a real intellectual lightweight who wears fake hipster glasses as part of a carefully cultivated image as she attempts to cover for her lack of depth.  I think most people who hear the comment will likely say, "who?"  But I wish the ugliness of the remark would be remembered as one more reason to keep Olbermann off our televisions and out of print.

Ursula Hennessey
John Walker: We must take a serious draught of Buck-U-Uppo (the “B”, for elephants) and come to terms that we are confronted not by political adversaries who advocate a different path to a shared goal, but rather an enemy. · Apr 14 at 2:13pm

Part of me thinks you are correct, John. But the other part of me laments the lack of American-ness of this kind of dialogue/diatribe. I'm probably being dramatic, but is respectful debate something that people have just written off? We do it quite well here, on Ricochet. Why wouldn't liberals want this kind of thing? Don't all people want to be heard, have their ideas considered, rather than having them beat back with crude insults? It's like every conversation becomes a debate. Every debate becomes a sarcasm slam. Every sarcasm slam becomes a crass cuss-out. I can't quite bring myself to see "them" as the enemy. I still want to believe they "advocate a different path to a shared goal." In many cases, they are very, very misguided. But evil? Hmmm. Then again, knowing that many people are loving KO's comments, I have to wonder... 

Jimmy Carter
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Jimmy Carter

Ursula... Ursula.... Ursula.... You ain't gonna offend Me. 

I like the fact that You added it. I think somewhere in Yer head Yer still ol' fashioned, pointing out that olbermann picks on Ladies. 

And any real Man in Her Life, be it Husband... Father... Brother..., should be looking to whoop the snot out olbermann. 

David Williamson
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David Williamson

I still remember when S.E. Cupp appeared on Hannity in a schoolgirl outfit... oh, wait, I may be violating the Ricochet code of conduct.

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Ursula Hennessey

Stuart Creque: And now you know why Keith Olbermann's father died: shame. · Apr 14 at 2:00pm

Stuart, you and I, I think, agree on many things. I learn a lot from your comments. You are one of the good things about Ricochet. But this comment is, I fear, just the same kind of thing that Olbermann did/does. If someone said this about my father, who died just about a year ago, I'd be crushed. It hits in a place that shouldn't be touched: One's love for their parents/children/spouse paired with a death reference. It's out of bounds. I know you are just returning the "love" to the despicable KO, but I don't think it's the appropriate response. · Apr 14 at 2:20pm

Edited on Apr 14 at 02:21 pm

It's not a nice response, and it's not one I would offer to anyone engaging in honest debate.  But Keith Olbermann doesn't engage in honest debate: he offers hateful rhetoric.  I apologize only for offering the comment in a forum where it is seen by decent people and not by Keith Olbermann himself.

John Walker
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Ursula Hennessey

Part of me thinks you are correct, John. But the other part of me laments the lack of American-ness of this kind of dialogue/diatribe. I'm probably being dramatic, but is respectful debate something that people have just written off?

For some decades, I've been calling this “the American way”: let's take a relatively simple issue of public policy, refine it into the most extreme positions possible, then retreat to our respective trenches and lob bombs at one another.

Having lived in Switzerland for the last 20 years, I have come to deeply respect the “Swiss way”, which is to recognise that there are many things upon which we'll never substantially agree, and that it is better not to elevate them to majority rule public policy but rather consider them below the radar of politics.

My epigrammatic encapsulation of the Swiss way: “The laws you live under should be made by the people you live with”.

Kennedy Smith
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Kennedy Smith
David Williamson: I still remember when S.E. Cupp appeared on Hannity in a schoolgirl outfit... oh, wait, I may be violating the Ricochet code of conduct. · Apr 14 at 3:21pm

Oh, don't we all...  As a sign that we rock, and they sadly do not.


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Mark Woodworth

I am not sure why anyone, especially the cool kids here at Ricochet, pays any attention to the likes of Keith Olbermann or Ezra Klein.  They are all such light weights, there is no substance to engage with, why can't we just ignore them entirely.  

Why doesn't everybody?

I am not asking a rhetorical question, I really don't get it.  Why does anyone care what Ezra Klein or Keith Olbermann thinks about anything?  What have they done of note?  What insights have they offered?  What learning and accomplishments undergird their wisdom?  

Certainly their 15 minutes are up already.


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