How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
Claire Berlinski, Ed. ·
November 20, 2011 at 4:20am
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Comments:
Aug '10
Re: How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
Umm...with blinding whitespace? I presume this post will be revised, but it's bedtime for me. (What are you doing up so early, Claire? I got a Maine Coon that walks on my hair, but never while I am actually sleeping.)
I myself am uninterested in the Occupy business now but I do wonder how it will be mythologized 50 years hence. Well, I guess I already know: crabby people in their eighth decades, still pinning medals on their own chests, very loudly. But I wonder also if, 50 years hence, it will be commonly imagined that Great Society legislation was a government plot to destroy black people. Let us hope that 2061 is a time of, ah, diverse belief systems.
Aug '10
Re: How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
Oh, OK - there's a video link. Sorry I was so hasty with my comment!
Apr '11
Re: How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
With reference to the title: Threaten them with a shower?
Jun '10
Re: How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
For most of the protesters, the problem is not ignorance--it's mental health. Pepper spray cuts through the fog of psychosis better and faster than logical argument does. It's mainly a time issue. The protesters have it, and the police don't.
Dec '10
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"I'm an anarchist. I want the hammer and sickle to stand for working class unity."
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Jul '10
Re: How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
"I'm an anarchist. I want the hammer and sickle to stand for working class unity."
You'll get nothing and like it.
Jul '11
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"Okay, good luck with that..." LOL!
Aug '10
Re: How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
Here's socialism for you:
My Ukranian grandparents were exiled by Stalin to Siberia, where they struggled to survive in minus-60 degree winters.
My father, an engineer, saved his entire life to buy a pathetic Russian automobile, only to die a year later, at 51, from negligence and indifference in a Soviet hospital.
Every day until I was 20 years old, my mother or myself had to stand on line for hours for a loaf of bread, a tomato or, miracle of miracles, chicken or beef.
All year long, I dreamed of the special season when fruit vendors from Chechnya came to our city and we would, if we could afford it, buy a basket of tangerines.
The wages of doctors, engineers and other educated people were held at much lower levels than those of common workers, because of the Communists' glorification of "labor".
The KGB burst into our apartment one night and dragged my father away, because of an anonymous denouncement.
Think that could only happen in the Soviet Union? Think again: if people like Barack Obama and these "occupiers" have their way, it would happen here.
Edited on November 20, 2011 at 5:59amOct '11
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Wow, Elena. I wish that these fools in the video (and also Vladimir's first video, in which the woman said that people in North Korea are paid a decent wage) could absorb your family's story.
Jun '10
Re: How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
Elena: Here's socialism for you:
[...] My father, an engineer, saved his entire life to buy a pathetic Russian automobile, only to die a year later, at 51, from negligence and indifference in a Soviet hospital.
Every day until I was 20 years old, my mother or myself had to stand on line for hours for a loaf of bread, a tomato or, miracle of miracles, chicken or beef.
All year long, I dreamed of the special season when fruit vendors from Chechnya came to our city and we would, if we could afford it, buy a basket of tangerines.
The wages of doctors, engineers and other educated people were held at much lower levels than those of common workers, because of the Communists' glorification of "labor".
The KGB burst into our apartment one night and dragged my father away, because of an anonymous denouncement.
Think that could only happen in the Soviet Union? Think again: if people like Barack Obama and these "occupiers" have their way, it would happen here.
Thank you for your eye-witness testimony. Glad you made it here. You may enjoy this from Ronald Reagan:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gIxuOabGBE
Edited on November 20, 2011 at 6:31amOct '11
Re: How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
These are "anarchists" like the plainsclothes cops and soldiers used to beat up protestors in Russia are just "citizens."
They know the term communist is repulsive so they claim to be against all government while they attempt to overthrow this government. Once the current government is gone they will rediscover their communism. These people make progress because they know their opponents will play by the rules, which these communists are not bound.
"I'm not a communist. I just want to take from each according to his means and give to each according to his needs."
Dec '10
Re: How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
I think what these anarchists are not comprehending here is that while they have scruffy haircuts and molotov cocktails and sticks and rocks, those of us who actually like capitalism have rifles and pistols and ammo a plenty, and we know how to use them very well.
These tool boxes might disrupt a city with their jackassery, but they are far too few, too lightly armed, and too unorganized to do any actual overthrowing.
Aug '10
Re: How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
Again with the deceptive headlines, Claire? You give me 'Turkey' and 'Icarus' in one and when I look there is no relation to Icarus in the piece.
Here you hit me with 'How To Make an OWS Protester Melt without Teargas' - referring perhaps to your post yesterday - and while I see/hear a more or less civil conversation, when the scene is over the 'protester' is still 'occupying' the same space he was in before and neither side has admitted the validity of the other.
Status quo ante.
At least in U C Davis there was some resolution following the confrontation.
On a different note, I initially thought the guy with the shovel at the beginning was Edward T. Hall III, a carousel jumping trust fund baby (with admittedly impressive acting skills), but upon careful review it wasn't.
Sep '10
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I've always wondered how horrors like Nazism could begin within a culture of well-off, seemingly well-intentioned people. But now, seeing how the media and hefty-lefty Democrats have focused on the nonexistent yet lauded so-called principles of OWS, combined with the circus-like anti-Semitic, anti-success excrement of these clowns, I think I have an idea. I can see now how ordinary German citizens allowed themselves to feel that they were doing right by ostracizing a minority of their own and how, later on, they remained indifferent to the horrors of what transpired, many of them to this very day. Of course, Elena, I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.
Elena: Here's socialism for you: ...
Think that could only happen in the Soviet Union? Think again: if people like Barack Obama and these "occupiers" have their way, it would happen here. · Nov 19 at 8:58pm
Edited on Nov 19 at 08:59 pm
Apr '11
Re: How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
Um, the protester doesn't get arrested at the end of this video. So, no real relevance to the behavior of police in any incident. (Besides which, is having a long pointless argument with the OWS people really the best use of tax money?) Also, the protester never admits he's wrong or really thinks about the counter-arguments (or anything), so the discussion doesn't actually accomplish anything. So no, this isn't better than pepper spray (not teargas!) at all.
Oct '11
Re: How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
I agree. The guy in the video, the "anarchist", doesn't melt. This would not be an effective method to remove protesters who were refusing to obey police orders to disperse.
Apr '11
Re: How to Make an OWS Protester Melt Without Teargas
I have to admit I have some sympathy for these somewhat thoughtful occupiers, that wrongly believe what they have been taught, and they then parrot this stuff back as if it is so intelligent because they learned it from "intellectuals".
I had just finish listening to the audio version of Peter Robinson's interview with Thomas Sowell and Sowell explained the reason he was able to overcome his early belief in Marxism was because he was fortunate to have been taught to understand facts, to question, and reason. So, since he never stopped listening and reading he was able to realize the fallacy of Marxism.
I worry that too many of these occupiers have never been equipped with the tools to reason and so they are destined to promote ideas that seek to enslave them if not destroy them.
In the end, the only real salvation our country has from these dangerous ideas is for proper education to prevail. That is what the former Soviet citizen was trying to give to this poor, young, indoctrinated wretch.
Apr '11
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Western Chauvinist: "I'm an anarchist. I want the hammer and sickle to stand for working class unity."
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. · Nov 19 at 7:50p
Maybe a better response would have been "Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die." 8D
Edited on November 20, 2011 at 7:20pm