Todd · Jun 16, 2011 at 4:07pm

From Rasmussen:

 A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely GOP Primary Voters, taken following the candidates’ Monday night debate, shows Romney earning 33% support, with Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann a surprise second at 19%. Georgia businessman Herman Cain is in third place with 10% of the vote.

 Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich picks up nine percent (9%) support, followed by Texas Congressman Ron Paul with seven percent (7%), ex-Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty at six percent (6%) and former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum also earning six percent (6%). Former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman, who did not participate in the debate but is expected to announce his candidacy on Tuesday, gets two percent (2%) of the vote. Eight percent (8%) prefer some other candidate.

Bachmann surges into second.  Tim Pawlenty, only at 6%, is not getting anywhere. And Romney, the guy whose nomination would likely end the Republican party once and for all, is at 33%.

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Frozen Chosen
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Poor ole T-Paw, no matter what he does he can't get above 6% - now THAT'S a charisma gap!

Since Pawlenty was the best bet to displace Mitt you anti-Romney folks had better hope Ryan gets in because there' no way any of the current candidates - including Bachmann - catch him.

Diane Ellis, Ed.

Frozen Chosen:

Since Pawlenty was the best bet to displace Mitt you anti-Romney folks had better hope Ryan gets in because there' no way any of the current candidates - including Bachmann - catch him.

There's Rick Perry(paywall)...

Here's an excerpt from Daniel Henninger's piece:

Onstage, the governor gives you passion. He gives you emotion. Compared to the seven GOP contenders at CNN's 30-seconds-only Twitter debate this week, Rick Perry would be the most animated by far—rocking back, his arms tossed out in broad sweeps...

This is going to be a substance election. What of substance does Rick Perry offer?

Texas. Without the details of the Texas economic boom, this is a normal candidacy. But the details are impressive. Texas is a zero income-tax state, and Mr. Perry gives the impression he'd die at the Alamo before allowing one. The state is historically business-friendly. I recall attending the 1992 GOP convention in Houston, visiting from New York, and feeling as if I were in a capitalist utopia. You could argue that many of the state's new companies are mainly fleeing intolerable hells, such as California. But Texas and Mr. Perry keep producing new welcome mats, notably the recent passage of a loser-pays tort-reform bill.

Edited on Jun 16, 2011 at 4:05pm
Frozen Chosen
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Diane,

I admit that Texas has a compelling story to tell, but it seems to me that Rick Perry is more a caretaker of the Republican legacy in that state more than a driver of it.  Doesn't Texas have a relatively weak governor compared to most states?  What am I missing?

Edited on Jun 16, 2011 at 4:16pm
River
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River

Our one hope: Mitt picks Michelle Bachmann as his running mate, and expires of terminal blandness immediately after taking office.

Southern Pessimist
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Frozen, I believe it is true that Texas has a weak governorship structure but he announced before this current legislative session that his top priority was passing loser-pays tort reform and he passed it. He is now my hero and I am willing to be the wind beneath his wings.

Sidehill Gouger
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It is depressing that Romney is so far ahead. We went with mediocre less than three years ago and the GOP still hasn't learned a thing.

Edited on Jun 16, 2011 at 5:12pm
Kofola
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Kofola

Frozen Chosen: Doesn't Texas have a relatively weak governor compared to most states? · Jun 16 at 4:16pm

Edited on Jun 16 at 04:16 pm

Damn those Texans for not having a totalitarian executive!

Severely Ltd.
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Severely Ltd.

Sidehill Gouger: It is depressing that Romney is so far ahead. We went with mediocre less than three years ago and the GOP still hasn't learned a thing. · Jun 16 at 4:55pm

Edited on Jun 16 at 05:12 pm

This is troubling. BUT:

a) Ryan could enter the race.

b) Perry looks like he might, and minus Ryan he looks good to me.

c) Bachmann might surge. If a. and b. don't materialize, I certainly hope so.

Paul A. Rahe

Sidehill Gouger: It is depressing that Romney is so far ahead. We went with mediocre less than three years ago and the GOP still hasn't learned a thing. · Jun 16 at 4:55pm

Edited on Jun 16 at 05:12 pm

The Republicans have a taste for the living dead. If Pawlenty wants to make it to New Hampshire, he is going to have show that he has fire. At this point, he seems more concerned about not making mistakes than about scoring.


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Paul A. Rahe

The Republicans have a taste for the living dead.

Best line ever.


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Abdiel

Paul A. Rahe

The Republicans have a taste for the living dead.

Best line ever. · Jun 16 at 5:59pm

Someone should tell Jonah Goldberg that the key to surviving a zombie infestation is more Republicans.

Squishy Blue RINO
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Kofola

Frozen Chosen: Doesn't Texas have a relatively weak governor compared to most states? · Jun 16 at 4:16pm

Edited on Jun 16 at 04:16 pm

Damn those Texans for not having a totalitarian executive! · Jun 16 at 5:05pm

I love the way they only let the State Legislature convene in odd numbered years, and then only for 140 days, with supervision from the Lt. Governor.

The prostitues migrate from adjoining states and the APD sets up DUI checkpoints around the capital district. It's a hoot, a biennial farce that never disappoints. One year the Dems all fled to Oklahoma, bless their hearts.

Edited on Jun 16, 2011 at 6:16pm
Squishy Blue RINO
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Squishy Blue RINO
 

So syphlitic camels will do in a pinch, but zombiefied rinos not so much, right?  

Edited on Jun 16, 2011 at 6:44pm
John Marzan
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Sidehill Gouger: It is depressing that Romney is so far ahead. We went with mediocre less than three years ago and the GOP still hasn't learned a thing. · Jun 16 at 4:55pm

Edited on Jun 16 at 05:12 pm

The possibility of Palin (and now Bachmann) becoming the nominee is driving the RINOs and east coast republicans towards romney. Obviously the tea party has some influence in the nomination process, but not enough to defeat Romney. Romney has all the "Anybody but Palin", "Anybody but Bachmann", "Anybody but a generic tea party candidate" vote.

The Tea party is romney's best chance at securing the nomination.

Todd
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"The Tea party is romney's best chance at securing the nomination."

I think the Romney numbers reflect nothing more than name recognition.

The tea party is a force, and it is not going to help Romney get elected, it is going to defeat Romney. 

Todd
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Here is another impressive performance from Bachmann on Brett Bair's online show. (fast foward to about the 20 minute mark).

I like how she points out that the tea party is a broad coalition that agrees on about 70% of the issues - primarily economic.  Despite her strong stances on social issues, she knows that the tea party is not about gay marriage and foreign policy. 

I am not saying that she should in any way back down from her social issue positions, but she is savvy enough to understand what this moment in history is all about, and it is clear what she will be running on.

John Marzan
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Todd: "The Tea party is romney's best chance at securing the nomination."

I think the Romney numbers reflect nothing more than name recognition.

The tea party is a force, and it is not going to help Romney get elected, it is going to defeat Romney.  · Jun 16 at 7:32pm

And Bachmann doesn't have higher name ID among the base than Romney? She's all over the talk show circuit.

Edited on Jun 16, 2011 at 7:52pm

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John Marzan

Todd: "The Tea party is romney's best chance at securing the nomination."

I think the Romney numbers reflect nothing more than name recognition.

The tea party is a force, and it is not going to help Romney get elected, it is going to defeat Romney.  · Jun 16 at 7:32pm

And Bachmann doesn't have higher name ID among the base than Romney? She's all over the talk show circuit. · Jun 16 at 7:51pm

It's not close, John.

Kervinlee
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Kervinlee

I like Bachmann; She's smart and decent and I think she would make a good president. I sent her 25 Big Ones after the GOP debate.

River
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John Marzan

Todd: "The Tea party is romney's best chance at securing the nomination."

I think the Romney numbers reflect nothing more than name recognition.

The tea party is a force, and it is not going to help Romney get elected, it is going to defeat Romney.  · Jun 16 at 7:32pm

And Bachmann doesn't have higher name ID among the base than Romney? She's all over the talk show circuit. · Jun 16 at 7:51pm

Edited on Jun 16 at 07:52 pm

John, John... It's name recognition among the zombies that counts!


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