From last night's Iowa Family Forum, where Newt Gingrich once again showed a keener instinct for hard-edged rhetorical populism than any other candidate in the field:

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Doctor Bean
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Doctor Bean

The irony is that the video is from RightWingWatch, a project of the misnamed lefty group, People for the American Way. So they're actually using it to demonstrate how horrible Newt is, and we think it's terrific.

Mollie Hemingway, Ed.
Doctor Bean: The irony is that the video is from RightWingWatch, a project of the misnamed lefty group, People for the American Way. So they're actually using it to demonstrate how horrible Newt is, and we think it's terrific. · Nov 20 at 9:29am

I was just going to make the same comment. It's funny when you find something equally hated and loved by opposing parties.

I will say, though, that I was more sympathetic to his comment before he got personal at the end. Further, such comments about getting a job would be easier to take if non-OWS-types weren't struggling so mightily to find work.

I have a family member who just last week got a job after 2.5 years (yes, years) without work. Another family member was unemployed a majority of this year. Same situation in my husband's family. These are people who loathe OWS but couldn't get work even as their standards for an acceptable job plummeted. Such rhetoric can be alienating.

Pat in Obamaland
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Pat in Obamaland

I won't vote for him in the primaries but in the dark corner of my black conservative heart I love Newt Gingrich.

David Williamson
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David Williamson

I agree - we were all thinking it. Mollie is too polite to say it, for fear of alienating people (as is Mr Romney), whereas Newt said it -- this explains his rise in the polls.

Mollie Hemingway, Ed.
David Williamson: I agree - we were all thinking it. Mollie is too polite to say it, for fear of alienating people (as is Mr Romney), whereas Newt said it -- this explains his rise in the polls. · Nov 20 at 9:59am

No, it's just that a comment made during a time of such sustained high unemployment is fundamentally flawed, not just alienating. It was fun to hear, sure, but then again, one of my favorite lines from 30 Rock was "Never go with a hippie to a second location."

DrewInWisconsin
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DrewInWisconsin

My wife and I had dinner with some friends last night. They've been Newt supporters all along. Seeing them after Newt's sudden rise in the polls last week, they were all glowy and shooting sparklers everywhere.

EJHill
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EJHill
Mollie Hemingway, Ed. I will say, though, that I was more sympathetic to his comment before he got personal at the end. Further, such comments about getting a job would be easier to take if non-OWS-types weren't struggling so mightily to find work.

EXCEPT, Miss Mollie, there are two types of people out there. There are those who are working jobs that they did not not study for, and in fact might be considered menial, but they believe in the value and dignity of work rather than being on the dole. And then there are those who refuse such employment as being beneath them. And they have convinced themselves that there outside forces at work that are conspiring to keep them from getting a job at $100k (starting) with a useless degree that they've gone into debt to get.


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Jonathan Cast

EJHill: OWS is actually a third type: those who studied for jobs that don't exist, *then* decided to deem any job that's actually useful as beneath them.

EJHill
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EJHill
Jonathan Cast: OWS is actually a third type: those who studied for jobs that don't exist...

I can sympathize with those who have had technology overtake their job. It's slowly happening to me. But if I end up a greeter at Wal-Mart I will do what I have to do.

That's not the problem with the OWS young people. And a lot of the older ones there have jobs - Union jobs and agitating for socialism/communism is what they do.

Peter Robinson

Wow.  When Newt's good, he's beautiful.

Whiskey Sam
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Whiskey Sam

Newt is playing with house money at this point.  Finally, an adult willing to address the elephant in the room.


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Boots on the Table

Message to Governor Romney.......You are now running against Speaker Gingrich.

The King Prawn
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The King Prawn

I thought speaking a simple truth was long ago deemed politically suicidal. Is this kind of talk possible because it's Newt or because the paradigm has shifted a little?

Instugator
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Instugator

Mollie Hemingway, Ed.

I was just going to make the same comment. It's funny when you find something equally hated and loved by opposing parties.

I will say, though, that I was more sympathetic to his comment before he got personal at the end. Further, such comments about getting a job would be easier to take if non-OWS-types weren't struggling so mightily to find work.

I have a family member who just last week got a job after 2.5 years (yes, years) without work. Another family member was unemployed a majority of this year. Same situation in my husband's family. These are people who loathe OWS but couldn't get work even as their standards for an acceptable job plummeted. Such rhetoric can be alienating. · Nov 20 at 9:51am

Send them to North Dakota. McDonald's fry cooks in Minot are being offered $15/hr and every one up the food chain from there is doing equally well. Plenty of work for all who are willing.

Keith Preston
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Keith Preston

Mollie Hemingway, Ed.

David Williamson: I agree - we were all thinking it. Mollie is too polite to say it, for fear of alienating people (as is Mr Romney), whereas Newt said it -- this explains his rise in the polls. · Nov 20 at 9:59am

No, it's just that a comment made during a time of such sustained high unemployment is fundamentally flawed, not just alienating. It was fun to hear, sure, but then again, one of my favorite lines from 30 Rock was "Never go with a hippie to a second location." · Nov 20 at 10:06am

On another website running this clip, they quoted Reagan's classic about hippies, "They act like Tarzan, dress like Jane, and smell like Cheetah."

Larry Koler
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Larry Koler

Mollie Hemingway, Ed.

...

I will say, though, that I was more sympathetic to his comment before he got personal at the end. Further, such comments about getting a job would be easier to take if non-OWS-types weren't struggling so mightily to find work.

I have a family member who just last week got a job after 2.5 years (yes, years) without work. Another family member was unemployed a majority of this year. Same situation in my husband's family. These are people who loathe OWS but couldn't get work even as their standards for an acceptable job plummeted. Such rhetoric can be alienating.

Should he have said: "Make getting a job a priority right after you take a bath" instead of "Go get a job right right after ..." ??

I mean I see your point but I hope that non-OWS unemployed people will like this every bit as much as the rest of the country.

For off the cuff remarks like this we shouldn't play into the left's playbook and become super censorious. We should laugh it off and take it how it is meant. 

David Williamson
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David Williamson

Mollie Hemingway, Ed.

It was fun to hear, sure, but then again, one of my favorite lines from 30 Rock was "Never go with a hippie to a second location."

I am so outa touch with popular culture that I have no idea what that means ;-)


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Kowaliczko Tom

 If they pull this off of the People for the American Way website, you'll know that Newt was convincing more of those people to our side than PFTAW were convincing us he was too harsh.

I know he's got his issues but nobody in this race can make the case like he can.

 

R. Craigen
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R. Craigen

Your turn, Mitt.  Weigh in on OWS.


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Palaeologus

I think it's fine as far as it went.

I suppose Newt is chasing more of Reusser's money.

But if Gingrich really wants the OWS crowd to bathe, the correct pitch is available at the 1 min 40 sec mark of this video.


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