The #iamthe53 movement was not created to berate, belittle, or shame people who don't pay federal income taxes thanks to credits, deductions, or having too low of an income. The #iamthe53 movement exists to call attention to the fact that we have an ever-expanding government and too few people paying for it. Every time a Democrat or leftist calls for more government spending to solve this or that societal ill, somebody in the 53% has to pay for it. #iamthe53 is more of a call to reduce government's role in our lives than some mechanism used to divide people among class and income lines. We'll leave that to the dirty hippies on Wall Street pretending to represent 'the 99%.'

Please do your research. It would be a refreshing change.

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etoiledunord
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etoiledunord

Being someone's "sugar daddy" used to be voluntary. Now it's tax policy.


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liberal jim

When Republicans call for more spending who pays for it?


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liberal jim

When Republicans call for more spending who pays for it?

Kevin Eder (@keder)

Republicans aren't the ones calling for $447 billion in new spending for another stimulus bill and absolutely refusing to cut spending or reform entitlements. Nice try.

etoiledunord
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etoiledunord
liberal jim: When Republicans call for more spending who pays for it? · Oct 12 at 6:55am

When do conservative Republicans ever call for more overall spending, or liberal Democrats ever call for less overall spending? It sometimes happens in spite of conservatives, but never because of conservatives.


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liberal jim
Kevin Eder (@keder): Republicans aren't the ones calling for $447 billion in new spending for another stimulus bill and absolutely refusing to cut spending or reform entitlements. Nice try. · Oct 12 at 7:03am

I seem to recall a Part D that has added to the Debt.  Then there is no child left behind.   Shall I go on. Liberal Republican big government is just as odious and cost just as much.  McCain, the GOP's last nominee is still calling for the government to buy underwater mortgages as a solution to the housing crisis.  Who do you think would pay for that lame brain liberal idea?  If you think the GOP has suddenly become a limited government party.  Think again.  This is just the usual election year rhetoric.  

Scott Reusser
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Scott Reusser

 Even the 53% figure is deceiving, however, since it "mistakes statistical categories for actual flesh and blood human beings" (Sowell) -- that is, most of the 47% (primarily younger people) will eventually move into the 53% (primarily older people)as they age and rise in income and wealth.

The idea that there's this static situation of a "taker half" and "provider half" is a lazy, convenient canard the right slouches into way too often.

There's a small, permanent underclass, yes, but it's nowhere near 47%. 


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etoiledunord

liberal jim: When Republicans call for more spending who pays for it? · Oct 12 at 6:55am

When do conservative Republicans ever call for more overall spending, or liberal Democrats ever call for less overall spending? It sometimes happens in spite of conservatives, but never because of conservatives. · Oct 12 at 7:04am

I'm talking about the majority of the republican party.  There are a few conservative Republicans,  Bush, McCain and it looks like Romney.  Is that your definition of conservative?  First 6 years of Bush.  Republicans majorities in Senate and House.  Did spending and the size of government increase or decrease?  


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liberal jim

Instead of repeating the same GOP talking points you might want to ask yourself if wealth is or is not increasingly being consecrated in the hands of fewer people?  Is this good , bad or make no difference for the future of the country?  If you view it as potentially problematic you might want to consider why it is happening.  Free market capitalism and the rule of law should not produce this result.  A primary benefit of truly free markets is mobility of capital. ie: rich people become poorer and poor people become richer.  Neither party has been advocating for truly free markets for several decades. 

etoiledunord
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etoiledunord
liberal jim: Instead of repeating the same GOP talking points you might want to ask yourself if wealth is or is not increasingly being consecrated in the hands of fewer people?  Is this good , bad or make no difference for the future of the country?  If you view it as potentially problematic you might want to consider why it is happening.  Free market capitalism and the rule of law should not produce this result.  A primary benefit of truly free markets is mobility of capital. ie: rich people become poorer and poor people become richer.· Oct 12 at 8:37am

I would much rather have vast fortunes in the hands of private citizens than in the hands of the federal government. Private citizens, unless I voluntarily agree to be in their employ, can't control what I do. Government does...increasingly so. And when government does it, you have no choice. Government is TOO BIG and SPENDS TOO MUCH MONEY. We have a new kind of anarchist in the streets today--anarchists that love big government. They're insane. Where ACTUAL freedom is allowed, rich and poor are temporary conditions. It's overregulation that keeps things so static.


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liberal jim

. Government is TOO BIG and SPENDS TOO MUCH MONEY. We have a new kind of anarchist in the streets today--anarchists that love big government. They're insane. Where ACTUAL freedom is allowed, rich and poor are temporary conditions. It's overregulation that keeps things so static. · Oct 12 at 9:03am

Let me try restating my point.  The skewed distribution of wealth is not a result of free markets and rule of law.  It is an indication of the adulteration of free markets and/or the rule of law.  The process was fostered by both parties often at the request of corporations and well connected wealthy families.  If you think people who have political influence use it only for patriotic purposes and do not use it for their own self interest you know less about markets than the OWS protesters. You don't seriously think the loons at OWS have more influence on the size and scope of government than the people attending 30K a plate fund raising dinners put on by both parties.

Mark Wilson
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Mark Wilson
Kevin Eder (@keder): The #iamthe53 movement was not created to berate, belittle, or shame people who don't pay federal income taxes thanks to credits, deductions, or having too low of an income.

Since the 99% movement is intended to "berate, belittle, or shame" the 1%, journalists can only fit the 53% to this template.  To expect critical thinking is too presumptive.


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