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John Podhoretz
Based on years of listening to him, and on everything I’ve heard about him, John Podhoretz is a gentle, humane, and thoroughly decent man. I envy him his ability to pluck precisely the right word from his obviously vast vocabulary, and to speak, when he chooses, with extraordinary nuance and precision.
Sure, he’s prone to outrageous hyperbole (a quality hardly unique to him in this, the Age of Trump), is unduly proud of his Judaic morosity, and has a sense of humor that resonates with 12-year-old boys and Jonah Goldberg (but I repeat myself). But still, I enjoy listening to him.
But he often lands a clinker, as he did in the June 6 podcast (here) when he averred, at about 1:10:00, that, should the Democrats win in 2020, the right is “certainly going to turn anti-patriotic in the event of his defeat. … So you’re going to have the right hating America and the left hating America.”
I’ve mentioned this before about our own Rob Long, and I’ll say it now about John: I think too many conservative intellectuals have a poor idea of what actual conservatives are like, and of who makes up “the right” out in that vast unexplored and boring portion of America that people who don’t live in New York, Washington, or Los Angeles call home.
Thank G-d we still have VDH.
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You probably bought some of that booze. I’m sure a grifter like Wilson appreciates it.
Given that the Dems will win the Presidency from time to time, it behooves our nation to have sane Dems.
I am waiting to receive my “Lincoln Project” coffee cup and baseball cap.
Way to ignore his actual points.
But makes sense for someone whomis disloyal and dishonorable.
In 2009, the far left was irate at Obama because they thought he wasn’t simply lying to swing voters about his political ideology, he was also lying about his temperament, and would turn into a Hugo Chavez-like hyper Alpha-male once sworn into office and shut down all right wing dissent (they thought throwing race cards at the more moderate Republicans would shut them down, and they were right). So that’s the mindset the angry Dems would go into 2021 with, if voters give them the White House and the Senate, just as they did health care in ’09 after being irked Clinton didn’t do it in 1993-94 when the Democrats had the White House and Congress.
(My suspicion is that a lot of The Lincoln Project/Bulwark types in ’21 would see no problem with the Dems overtly using government to shut down conservative media sites, organizations and individuals, as opposed to the covert way Obama tried to do it int he 2011-16 time period. Then the #NeverTrumpers would be shocked when the same woke mob started coming after them as potential heretics to The Cause.)
You may right. I may be wrong.
We may, or may not see starting six months and 10 days from now.
He is. You are.
You need to believe it, Gary, because that’s exactly what will happen if Biden wins. In fact, it appears to be happening already. Here’s a Ricochet post about it, and a CNN article about it.
I agree. But there are no sane Dems in sight this year.
Or for the foreseeable future.
This may sound hokey, but I think that all of us need to pray for our country.
Weeping,
Gary’s extra-specialness allows him to magnify microscopic flaws in the Administration while missing the total horror and disaster evident in the entire Dem party and every one of their candidates. We aren’t supposed to notice this but give Gary the benefit of the doubt because of his wonderful sincerity.
Just thought I’d explain it to you.
Regards,
Jim
No, it doesn’t sound hokey. But it’s hard to know just what it means, when placed beside your public endorsement of the Democratic party, its candidate, and its platform. And that’s what a “Republicans for Biden” bumper sticker represents.
Doesn’t sound hokey to me at all. And on this, I totally agree with you.
Well, everyone has their blind spots. I’m sure I have mine too – don’t know what they are exactly, ’cause then they wouldn’t be blind spots. But I’m sure they’re there. :)
Gary,
Henry might just have a point. After all, I’d suspect that if the Democrats were given a multiple-choice test. (see below)
I’m sure that over 50% of Democrats would not be choosing selection 1, so your exhortation to prayer is pretty much a moot point with them. Aside from that, it is clear that the Democrats are intent on damaging religion in this country any way they can. If you are praying for the country what should be foremost in your prayers is “Let the enemies of Gd be defeated.”
Regards,
Jim
But you don’t think you’ll get what YOU vote for?
“Fascinating.”
What makes you think – or probably not actually think, but just believe – that President Biden won’t be fed the AOC agenda from the sidelines?
Racist.
Whew! *wipes brow* I made it all the way to the end! What do I win?
Also, I was wondering what the Ricochetti think of John Podhoretz?
:-)
I like him, Commentary podcast, and GLOP podcast.
I’ve begun to suspect that he gets too much of his news from NYT (or sources under its influence) and not enough from Daily Wire podcasts. That alone could explain why I occasionally think he’s wrong about the facts.
He got the pepper spray vs. pepper bullets thing wrong about that Church Trump visited. He also freak out at white people that like the Confederate flag in a way that seems rather xenophobic to me. (I ain’t a confederate guy but I don’t think most whites who like the confederate flag hate black folk.) Because of this and other things he annoys me quite alot.
But I like the guy because he is a weird eccentric nerd who is insanely knowledgeable about weird things. Life is too short to hate interesting folks just because they have the wrong opinion about this or that. I know quite alot of folks can’t get over disagreement about the whole Trump deal but I think that is a misplaced sentiment. Pretty sure the guy still loves America and he loves America as a Jew who is smart enough to know that America is the least anti-semitic country on Earth. (Israel has a contingent of anti-Israel Arab citizens that make our anti-semites look like Reb Tevya.)
Does anyone else have mixed feelings about John Podhoretz. I hear alot of folks who hate him for being something of an NTer and people who love him for being an NTer but is there anyone besides me and the author of this post who are mixed?
One problem I have with JPod is that he ends up being wrong about facts, even facts about the weird things that you find him insanely knowledgeable about, just often enough that I find I can’t necessarily trust anything he says without checking.
“Experts” – or “pundits” – that are factually wrong often enough that you may end up having to double-check anything they say, don’t seem to really count as “experts.” Or “pundits.” It seems to me the point of having “experts,” especially, is that you should be able to trust that they know what they’re talking about, without having to double-check.
I agree with JPod on “The Odd Couple”. Except for Season 1. They really needed a live studio audience to make it work.
That’s a good point. I assume all his Hollywood and t.v. knowledge is accurate but he could be making it all up for all I know.
That’s one of the aspects right there. And it’s similar to how people complain about the inaccurate “news” coverage of events that they witnessed, and so they KNOW that the coverage was wrong. It’s not reasonable to believe that the ONLY things they get wrong, are the things we have direct knowledge of. The logical conclusion is that they’re also wrong about other things – perhaps many, perhaps most – but we only “catch them red-handed” in a limited number of cases that we have direct knowledge of. Meanwhile, other people know about OTHER things they get wrong… add it up, and it’s likely a much bigger problem than any of us individually may be aware of.
Oh my gosh, I was kidding about the JPod question… 🤣
Now that you mention it that does make more sense.
I might have given the same answer if I’d realized it.
Never owned one and don’t intend to, but I suspect many who do, do so because cancel culture told them they shouldn’t.