The Last Straw

This week, some rumination on Trump’s tete a tete with Putin (along with a history lesson for Rob Long), we introduce you to Elizabeth Heng, who is running for Congress in California’s 16th District, we get some #MeToo education from our good pal Mona Charen, (stop whatever you’re doing and buy her book Sex Matters right now) and the city of Santa Barbara declares that if you use a straw in that fair city, you’ll do time. Which sucks. Also, the Word of The Day is spizzerinctum.

Music from this week’s podcast: Sex Bomb by Tom Jones

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  1. Gary Robbins Member
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    Eustace C. Scrubb (View Comment):

    Sometimes the comments are quite helpful… Letting me know when a podcast is worth skipping. This is such a time.

    This was a great podcast.  I listened to it three times to hear what Rob had to say.

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  2. Mrs. Ink Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Mrs. Ink (View Comment):

    Wow, the hatred lives loudly within some people on this thread.

    Tell me, where was all this indignation and passion when Obama was tearing the Constitution and our country to shreds?

    I was loud then too. But Obama was a Democrat, we expect nonsense from them! Trump executed a hostile take-over of the Republican Party and needs to be thrown out at the ballot box.

    This would be the Republican party that not only did nothing to prevent the assaults on middle-class, small town, small business, ordinary, normal Americans, but gleefully added to their burdens? The Republican party that decided that it was a good idea to open our borders to vast hordes of invaders, who have no respect for our laws and our citizens? That decided that their role was to be the gracious, civilized losers, while  Obama wrought havoc at home and abroad? The Republican party of Max Boot, Bret Stephens, and Jennifer Rubin, who want to replace us with compliant foreigners? That Republican party?

    That Republican party should thank God that they only got Trump instead of the revolt that they deserve.

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  3. Arahant Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    The purpose is simple, to create a primary challenge to Trump to save the country and the Republican Party back from the populists and “the ill man in the White House who is unfit to be president.”

    The problem is, the results will be the opposite of that. It reminds me of the joke poster, “The beatings will continue until morale improves.”

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  4. Arahant Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    So what level would it cost for people to be able to post and comment? How much would it cost for a year subscription?

    Coolidge. It’s about twice the price, I believe.

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  5. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Mrs. Ink (View Comment):

    I find it fascinating that Rob Long, who works in television, does not see that a lot of Trump’s behavior is part of his persona as the brash, wheeler-dealer guy. He may be a bad guy, he may be out for himself, but he isn’t sick, and he isn’t an idiot.

    Trump is leading a peasant revolt. Like a lot of successful peasants, he is shrewd, grasping, pugnacious, vulgar, and outrageous. To a lot of people, his sexual behavior is pretty much what is expected from a guy with a lot of money and a lot of power, and is no different than a lot of other presidents (see Kennedy, J. F.) Paying for sex is as old as sex. He has the gift of making his enemies sabotage themselves.

    Trump also has some traits that some of us find endearing. He stands up in front of a crowd at CPAC and makes fun of himself and his hair:

    That is not the behavior of an insecure person. I paid close attention to Obama, I never heard a single self-deprecating word from him.

    Trump probably doesn’t even like Mitch McConnell, but McConnell had polio as a child and has trouble with stairs, so Trump takes his arm to help him up the steps. He chases and picks up a Marine’s barracks cover and returns it to him. It may be that Trump does these things by calculation, but if he does, he is cleverer than even his most ardent admirers think he is.

    Part of the rage against the anti-Trump forces is because the peasants are so tired of being assaulted by the urban elites. If you don’t live in flyover country, you don’t have any idea of how devastating the leftist-globalist agenda was and is to the people, towns, and industries in the interior of the country. It’s one thing to read about such things, quite another to live them. It is one thing to spout compassion for illegal aliens when your kids go to private schools, and quite another when your kids don’t get much attention from teachers because the teachers are busy dealing with illegal alien children who don’t speak English, and whose parents are not literate in any language. When you are paying property taxes to pay those teachers, this is enraging. On top of the economic warfare, there is the constant drum of racist, sexist, homophobe, when we are not any of those things.

    The ratchet has been turning leftward since the Depression, and it has been emptying out the small towns and cities to the benefit of the coasts and Washington, D. C., and the peasants are sick of it. Trump could be as sick as Mr. Long says he is, and he would still have support because he is attempting to reverse the rot.

    Best Trump support ever. There needs to be more of this.

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  6. Arahant Member
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    Eustace C. Scrubb (View Comment):
    Sometimes the comments are quite helpful… Letting me know when a podcast is worth skipping. This is such a time.

    Yes, Rob had a rant, but other than that, it wasn’t bad. And there were definitely some funny moments.

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Eustace C. Scrubb (View Comment):
    Sometimes the comments are quite helpful… Letting me know when a podcast is worth skipping. This is such a time.

    Yes, Rob had a rant, but other than that, it wasn’t bad. And there were definitely some funny moments.

    Fortunately, Rob is – and in the past has demonstrably been – wrong about so many things, it’s not difficult to just dismiss a lot of what he says.

    I think it would be funny if someone in the podcasts had a sound button to press that has Mary Tyler Moore saying “Oh, Rob!”

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  8. Full Size Tabby Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Eustace C. Scrubb (View Comment):
    Sometimes the comments are quite helpful… Letting me know when a podcast is worth skipping. This is such a time.

    Yes, Rob had a rant, but other than that, it wasn’t bad. And there were definitely some funny moments.

    Yes. Mona being interviewed by Peter about her book was excellent. I enjoyed the interview of the young Republican congressional candidate. Based on what I hear from Victor Davis Hanson about life on the ground in California’s central valley, I think her message will be received among her potential voters more positively than Rob Long seems to think. 

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  9. Petty Inactive
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    Eustace C. Scrubb (View Comment):

    Sometimes the comments are quite helpful… Letting me know when a podcast is worth skipping. This is such a time.

    Please  don’t skip it on my account. Except for the two minute rant I was glowering in my troll-cave.

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  10. Patrick McClure Coolidge
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    Mrs. Ink (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Mrs. Ink (View Comment):

    Wow, the hatred lives loudly within some people on this thread.

    Tell me, where was all this indignation and passion when Obama was tearing the Constitution and our country to shreds?

    I was loud then too. But Obama was a Democrat, we expect nonsense from them! Trump executed a hostile take-over of the Republican Party and needs to be thrown out at the ballot box.

    This would be the Republican party that not only did nothing to prevent the assaults on middle-class, small town, small business, ordinary, normal Americans, but gleefully added to their burdens? The Republican party that decided that it was a good idea to open our borders to vast hordes of invaders, who have no respect for our laws and our citizens? That decided that their role was to be the gracious, civilized losers, while Obama wrought havoc at home and abroad? The Republican party of Max Boot, Bret Stephens, and Jennifer Rubin, who want to replace us with compliant foreigners? That Republican party?

    That Republican party should thank God that they only got Trump instead of the revolt that they deserve.

    The answer to all these questions is, yes, that Republican party.

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  11. Patrick McClure Coolidge
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    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Wow talk about hair on fire. We have an ill man in the White House who is unsuited to be president? That is definitely Rob Long’s Michael Jackson moment.

    It was music to my ears for Rob Long to say that we have an ill man in the White House who is unfit t be president. I agree wholeheartedly!

     

    Whether one agrees with Rob or disagrees, Rob has been saying that about Trump for a very long time.

    I guess I’ve remembered Rob’s previous position incorrectly. I thought he believed the President was unfit to serve due to character, not mental illness. If he has always thought President Trump was mentally ill, he has been not just wrong, but spectacularly wrong.

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  12. Gary Robbins Member
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    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Wow talk about hair on fire. We have an ill man in the White House who is unsuited to be president? That is definitely Rob Long’s Michael Jackson moment.

    It was music to my ears for Rob Long to say that we have an ill man in the White House who is unfit t be president. I agree wholeheartedly!

     

    Whether one agrees with Rob or disagrees, Rob has been saying that about Trump for a very long time.

    I guess I’ve remembered Rob’s previous position incorrectly. I thought he believed the President was unfit to serve due to character, not mental illness. If he has always thought President Trump was mentally ill, he has been not just wrong, but spectacularly wrong.

    Character, Kompromat, Mental Illness.  With Trump it is always hard to tell which is predominating at one time.  

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  13. Henry Castaigne Member
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    I agree with Rob and I agree with the anti-Trumpers Trump is mentally ill and obnoxious. But he is still and effective tool for freedom. He is mentally ill like an high-functioning alcoholic. He is rude and vulgar but he gets stuff done. 

    Getting stuff done is the most important thing.

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  14. TheSockMonkey Inactive
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    So, armchair diagnosis of the President’s mental health – that’s so helpful. Putin obviously has kompromat on Rob Long, to get him to say the U.S. President is mentally ill, and unfit to lead. Good job, Ricochet Podcast.

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):
    It is especially important to hammer the point now. When Trump goes completely off the deep end as he did in Helsinki, he MUST be hammered because maybe, just maybe he will learn something and make adjustments. Also, now to paraphrase Mr. Epstein in The Libertarian podcast, it is no longer a choice between Trump and Hillary. It is now a choice between Trump and Pence and I would much rather have Pence!

    So Helsinki was Trump going “completely off the deep end”? You realize that means we have nothing to fear, right? As mentioned in the podcast, other presidents have done the same, or worse.

    No, wait, you just said we have a choice between Trump and Pence. Please tell us how to get to whatever universe in which you live.

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  15. George Townsend Inactive
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    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    What Julia wrote. God Bless you, Julia. And thank Rob Long for being a Founder. He is wonderful. A breath of fresh air.

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  16. George Townsend Inactive
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    Mrs. Ink (View Comment):

    Nobody on Ricochet even remotely liked Obama as a president. That does not mean we have to like Trump.

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  17. George Townsend Inactive
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    Mrs. Ink (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Mrs. Ink (View Comment):

    Wow, the hatred lives loudly within some people on this thread.

    Tell me, where was all this indignation and passion when Obama was tearing the Constitution and our country to shreds?

    I was loud then too. But Obama was a Democrat, we expect nonsense from them! Trump executed a hostile take-over of the Republican Party and needs to be thrown out at the ballot box.

    This would be the Republican party that not only did nothing to prevent the assaults on middle-class, small town, small business, ordinary, normal Americans, but gleefully added to their burdens? The Republican party that decided that it was a good idea to open our borders to vast hordes of invaders, who have no respect for our laws and our citizens? That decided that their role was to be the gracious, civilized losers, while Obama wrought havoc at home and abroad? The Republican party of Max Boot, Bret Stephens, and Jennifer Rubin, who want to replace us with compliant foreigners? That Republican party?

    That Republican party should thank God that they only got Trump instead of the revolt that they deserve.

    Where to begin. The Republican Party of Ronald Reagan gave us a couple of decades of a growing economy, the end to the Soviet Union, and a feeling that it is good to be called a Proud American again. Trump has given us a good economy, yes, and good judges, among other things; but also a feeling of embarrassment to have as a leader a man who can’t control his fragile ego, and thinks nothing of consigning people to Hell who would dare to dispute that the is the greatest American alive today.

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  18. Gary Robbins Member
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    George Townsend (View Comment):

    Mrs. Ink (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Mrs. Ink (View Comment):

    Wow, the hatred lives loudly within some people on this thread.

    Tell me, where was all this indignation and passion when Obama was tearing the Constitution and our country to shreds?

    I was loud then too. But Obama was a Democrat, we expect nonsense from them! Trump executed a hostile take-over of the Republican Party and needs to be thrown out at the ballot box.

    This would be the Republican party that not only did nothing to prevent the assaults on middle-class, small town, small business, ordinary, normal Americans, but gleefully added to their burdens? The Republican party that decided that it was a good idea to open our borders to vast hordes of invaders, who have no respect for our laws and our citizens? That decided that their role was to be the gracious, civilized losers, while Obama wrought havoc at home and abroad? The Republican party of Max Boot, Bret Stephens, and Jennifer Rubin, who want to replace us with compliant foreigners? That Republican party?

    That Republican party should thank God that they only got Trump instead of the revolt that they deserve.

    Where to begin. The Republican Party of Ronald Reagan gave us a couple of decades of a growing economy, the end to the Soviet Union, and a feeling that it is good to be called a Proud American again. Trump has given us a good economy, yes, and good judges, among other things; but also a feeling of embarrassment to have as a leader a man who can’t control his fragile ego, and thinks nothing of consigning people to Hell who would dare to dispute that the is the greatest American alive today.

    Not only did Reagan help us all to be proud to be Americans, he helped many of us to be proud to be Republicans.  

    I am ashamed to be a Republican when the overwhelming majority of us Republicans allowed a determined minority (but plurality in a large field) to take over the conservative movement in a fury of populist rage.  

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  19. Petty Inactive
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    Part of the rage against the anti-Trump forces is because the peasants are so tired of being assaulted by the urban elites. If you don’t live in flyover country, you don’t have any idea of how devastating the leftist-globalist agenda was and is to the people, towns, and industries in the interior of the country. It’s one thing to read about such things, quite another to live them. It is one thing to spout compassion for illegal aliens when your kids go to private schools, and quite another when your kids don’t get much attention from teachers because the teachers are busy dealing with illegal alien children who don’t speak English, and whose parents are not literate in any language. When you are paying property taxes to pay those teachers, this is enraging. On top of the economic warfare, there is the constant drum of racist, sexist, homophobe, when we are not any of those things. 

    I agree with every word, but wouldn’t our goals have been met 1,000 times more effectively and efficiently if we had supported Scott Walker from Wisconsin? He was available to be drafted when Trump had gamed the winner-take-all primaries to come out on top with 35% support at the convention.

    Update: Note that Gary and my comments were posted without awareness of the other.

     

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  20. Arahant Member
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    Petty (View Comment):
    I agree with every word, but wouldn’t our goals have been met 1,000 times more effectively and efficiently if we had supported Scott Walker from Wisconsin?

    Governor Walker bowed out early. Many of us were supporting him before he did so.

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  21. Petty Inactive
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Petty (View Comment):
    I agree with every word, but wouldn’t our goals have been met 1,000 times more effectively and efficiently if we had supported Scott Walker from Wisconsin?

    Governor Walker bowed out early. Many of us were supporting him before he did so.

    He was still, in my opinion, the best available answer to the problem we were confronted with after the Indiana primary. He bowed out specifically to stop Trump urging real Republicans to unite behind one candidate that could do that job.

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  22. Gary Robbins Member
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    Petty (View Comment):

    Part of the rage against the anti-Trump forces is because the peasants are so tired of being assaulted by the urban elites. If you don’t live in flyover country, you don’t have any idea of how devastating the leftist-globalist agenda was and is to the people, towns, and industries in the interior of the country. It’s one thing to read about such things, quite another to live them. It is one thing to spout compassion for illegal aliens when your kids go to private schools, and quite another when your kids don’t get much attention from teachers because the teachers are busy dealing with illegal alien children who don’t speak English, and whose parents are not literate in any language. When you are paying property taxes to pay those teachers, this is enraging. On top of the economic warfare, there is the constant drum of racist, sexist, homophobe, when we are not any of those things.

    I agree with every word, but wouldn’t our goals have been met 1,000 times more effectively and efficiently if we had supported Scott Walker from Wisconsin? He was available to be drafted when Trump had gamed the winner-take-all primaries to come out on top with 35% support at the convention.

    Update: Note that Gary and my comments were posted without awareness of the other.

    I am proud to be a Scott Walker Republican.  Scott Walker has been a highly successful governor of a purple state.  He doesn’t have any of the character/kompromat/mental illness issues that Trump has.  He is a humble man who has sparked a revolution.  I would be proud of a Scott Walker President.

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  23. Gary Robbins Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Petty (View Comment):
    I agree with every word, but wouldn’t our goals have been met 1,000 times more effectively and efficiently if we had supported Scott Walker from Wisconsin?

    Governor Walker bowed out early. Many of us were supporting him before he did so.

    Governor Walker pleaded with the rest of the field to step away if a candidate wasn’t catching fire.  Nobody else did until too late.

    If we had the proportionate awarding of delegates, an extended series of primary elections, and super-delegates we could stop a demagogue like Trump.

    Other tools would be “negative voting” where an elector could either vote “for” a candidate, or “against” a candidate. Another tool would be to require any candidate to win a 60% or 2/3’s majority.  Another tool would be to require the release of tax returns.

    It appears that the only ways to excise the Trump nightmare will be for Mueller to prove kompromat, or for our party to be wiped out in the 2018 and/or 2020 elections.

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  24. RufusRJones Member
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    Petty (View Comment):
    Now parties are pale husks of their former selves,

    McCaine Finegold over-empowered the 527s. I heard that somewhere.

    17 candidates means you have to have a national two-step primary. 17–>2.

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  25. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Kompromat

    Gary still thinks they are going to get Trump on something related to Russia. 

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  26. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    super-delegates

    I can not believe anyone is for this in this era. 

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  27. Gary Robbins Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Kompromat

    Gary still thinks they are going to get Trump on something related to Russia.

    After Helsinki, yes!

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  28. RufusRJones Member
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    The best way for people to manage their sex drive is to have good parents or listen to Dennis Prager. Good luck if you don’t. 

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  29. TheSockMonkey Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    It appears that the only ways to excise the Trump nightmare will be for Mueller to prove kompromat, or for our party to be wiped out in the 2018 and/or 2020 elections.

    As a true, Reagan conservative, I am hoping for Red Wave elections in both those years. And for Mueller to end his investigation, stating positively that neither the election nor the President has been compromised. Obviously, it’s what Reagan would want.

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  30. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    The purpose is simple, to create a primary challenge to Trump to save the country and the Republican Party back from the populists and “the ill man in the White House who is unfit to be president.”

     

    If you want to know why populists are taking everything over, listen to the David Stockman interviews on the Tom Wood show and Contra Krugman around September 2016, D.C.  McAllister on Whiskey Politics and David Horowitz on the Rubin Report or basically anything, and Angelo Codavilla on the Tom Woods Show. Bonus credit: listen to Dr. Joseph Salerno on Ludwig von Mises and nationalism and Hans Herman Hoppe on Democracy the God that failed on Mises weekends. 

     

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