The Last Straw

This week, some rumination on Trump’s tete a tete with Putin (along with a history lesson for Rob Long), we introduce you to Elizabeth Heng, who is running for Congress in California’s 16th District, we get some #MeToo education from our good pal Mona Charen, (stop whatever you’re doing and buy her book Sex Matters right now) and the city of Santa Barbara declares that if you use a straw in that fair city, you’ll do time. Which sucks. Also, the Word of The Day is spizzerinctum.

Music from this week’s podcast: Sex Bomb by Tom Jones

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  1. Full Size Tabby Member

    I read from the eyes in the illustration that Mona is having more fun under the cover than the three guys are. :-) I’ll need to listen to hear if she gave them a beat-down in the podcast.

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    • July 20, 2018, at 2:10 PM PDT
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  2. Patrick McClure Member

    Wow talk about hair on fire. We have an ill man in the White House who is unsuited to be president? That is definitely Rob Long’s Michael Jackson moment.

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    • July 20, 2018, at 3:28 PM PDT
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  3. Eugene Kriegsmann Member

    Bravo Rob! The best analysis of Trump I have heard all week!

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    • July 20, 2018, at 3:29 PM PDT
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  4. Max Ledoux Admin

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    Ricochet.com/join, pause the show right now, ricochet.com/join, ricochet.com/join. Thank you. But seriously, we’d take a billion dollars from Trump as well.

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    If you think of any sneaky ways to get Rob to praise Trump, let me know and I’ll slip them into next werk’s script. 😃

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    • July 20, 2018, at 5:05 PM PDT
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  5. Lazy_Millennial Member

    A quick note on the intersection of straws and and differences between sexes: men shouldn’t drink through a straw around women they’re trying to impress, as there’s no real way to look dignified while doing so. I love straws for convenience and cups that are accompanying me to my car, but when on a date, leave the straw unused. 

    Examples:

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    • July 20, 2018, at 5:11 PM PDT
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  6. Man O Tea Member

    Sadly, Heng said precisely nothing. Zero policy ideas, or bulls-eyes. She mistakenly believed she was being queried by CNN LAX. She better have direct, risky answers to the Rob questions. The valley has potential working democrat, Trumpian voters. She needs to be extremely tough and outside-the-boxy in her delivery and content.

     

    Keep Mona’s husband from listening to her interview. She said “I’m a huge-peter fan.”

     

     

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    • July 20, 2018, at 5:22 PM PDT
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  7. kedavis Member

    @peterrobinson : most of the time you should probably finish your sentences, instead of going off in some other direction and assuming everyone knows what you were GOING TO say.

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    • July 20, 2018, at 7:45 PM PDT
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  8. FredGoodhue Coolidge

    To tie together two of the threads of this podcast, banning straws in male domination. Women want straws because they help protect lipstick. That’s not an issue for men.

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    • July 20, 2018, at 10:37 PM PDT
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  9. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Wow talk about hair on fire. We have an ill man in the White House who is unsuited to be president? That is definitely Rob Long’s Michael Jackson moment.

    It was music to my ears for Rob Long to say that we have an ill man in the White House who is unfit t be president. I agree wholeheartedly!

     

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    • July 20, 2018, at 11:09 PM PDT
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  10. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    This is the member pitch script, as written:

    Here at Ricochet.com we’ve always tried to fill a need that we saw on the Right for something —news, analysis, intellectual discussion, soothing voices— along the lines of what NPR does for the Left. Just like NPR is free to listen to over the air waves, the Ricochet Audio Network is free to listen to at Ricochet.com, iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, or really any podcast app that you might want to use.

    However, unlike NPR, we don’t receive any federal funding — and of course we wouldn’t want to take any. // I’m just kidding; please send us a billion dollars, Mr President. Have I mentioned how great I think you are? You’re the best president.

    Well, that’s probably not going to work.

    Look, we do have expenses. It takes money to run the best, conservative, center-right podcast network.

    So! If you’re already a member of Ricochet.com, we thank you, and ask that you try out some of our sponsors’ products, especially fill in the blank with today’s sponsors but don’t read this part. emphasis: I care. Trump is the greatest president. — Wait a minute. I’m going to have to talk to Max about that later. — Look, the important part is, please use our coupon codes so that our sponsors know we sent you.

    If you’re not a member, thank you for listening, and we hope you’ll also try our sponsors’ products. In //addition//, please become a Podcast Listener member at ricochet.com/join for just $2.50 per month. It’s a way for //you// to support the podcasts that //you’re// already listening to for //free//, and you’ll also be able to join the conversation by commenting on podcasts at Ricochet.com, and you’ll be able to read our member feed as well. Please support //your// favorite podcasts at the Ricochet Audio Network by becoming a sponsoring member at Ricochet.com/join at the Podcast Listener member level for only $2.50 per month.

    Ricochet.com/join, pause the show right now, ricochet.com/join, ricochet.com/join. Thank you. But seriously, we’d take a billion dollars from Trump as well.

    🤣

    If you think of any sneaky ways to get Rob to praise Trump, let me know and I’ll slip them into next werk’s script. 😃

    I have a better script. Omit Max’s paragraph and say the following:

    Our members are from the Center-Right part of the spectrum. Some of us love Trump, some don’t. NeverTrump Member Gary Robbins has made a $300.00 gift to purchase 10 memberships for one year, because he believes that once you read the Member Feed and have posted messages on it, including his latest diatribe against Trump, you will be hooked and will want to pay only $2.50 a month to be able to file your own posts about how you love, hate or are perplexed about Trump, and you will be throughly hooked as a member, and will want to explore the more expensive membership levels.

    ________________

    The next week, perhaps Member X will sponsor 10 memberships so that you can read and comment on his paeans of praise for Trump or something as positive as a diatribe is negative.

    ———————————

    Or maybe something like NeverTrump Member Gary Robbins, EverTrump Member X, and Trump Semi Supporter/Skeptic Y have all pledged $Z to buy one year memberships.

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    • July 20, 2018, at 11:32 PM PDT
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  11. Henry Castaigne Member

    I think it would be fine if they didn’t give you straws unless you ask for them. It’s more efficient.

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    • July 20, 2018, at 11:35 PM PDT
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  12. Arahant Member

    Man O Tea (View Comment):
    Keep Mona’s husband from listening to her interview. She said “I’m a huge-peter fan.”

    Yeah, phrasing. I was starting to think this was a PITcast, rather than a podcast. And it went downhill from there.

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    • July 21, 2018, at 4:11 AM PDT
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  13. Arahant Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Wow talk about hair on fire. We have an ill man in the White House who is unsuited to be president? That is definitely Rob Long’s Michael Jackson moment.

    It was music to my ears for Rob Long to say that we have an ill man in the White House who is unfit t be president. I agree wholeheartedly!

    Yeah, about that, Rob…

    https://ricochet.com/535635/trump-is-a-mirror/

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    • July 21, 2018, at 4:15 AM PDT
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  14. Mrs. Ink Member

    I find it fascinating that Rob Long, who works in television, does not see that a lot of Trump’s behavior is part of his persona as the brash, wheeler-dealer guy. He may be a bad guy, he may be out for himself, but he isn’t sick, and he isn’t an idiot.

    Trump is leading a peasant revolt. Like a lot of successful peasants, he is shrewd, grasping, pugnacious, vulgar, and outrageous. To a lot of people, his sexual behavior is pretty much what is expected from a guy with a lot of money and a lot of power, and is no different than a lot of other presidents (see Kennedy, J. F.) Paying for sex is as old as sex. He has the gift of making his enemies sabotage themselves.

    Trump also has some traits that some of us find endearing. He stands up in front of a crowd at CPAC and makes fun of himself and his hair:

    That is not the behavior of an insecure person. I paid close attention to Obama, I never heard a single self-deprecating word from him.

    Trump probably doesn’t even like Mitch McConnell, but McConnell had polio as a child and has trouble with stairs, so Trump takes his arm to help him up the steps. He chases and picks up a Marine’s barracks cover and returns it to him. It may be that Trump does these things by calculation, but if he does, he is cleverer than even his most ardent admirers think he is.

    Part of the rage against the anti-Trump forces is because the peasants are so tired of being assaulted by the urban elites. If you don’t live in flyover country, you don’t have any idea of how devastating the leftist-globalist agenda was and is to the people, towns, and industries in the interior of the country. It’s one thing to read about such things, quite another to live them. It is one thing to spout compassion for illegal aliens when your kids go to private schools, and quite another when your kids don’t get much attention from teachers because the teachers are busy dealing with illegal alien children who don’t speak English, and whose parents are not literate in any language. When you are paying property taxes to pay those teachers, this is enraging. On top of the economic warfare, there is the constant drum of racist, sexist, homophobe, when we are not any of those things. 

    The ratchet has been turning leftward since the Depression, and it has been emptying out the small towns and cities to the benefit of the coasts and Washington, D. C., and the peasants are sick of it. Trump could be as sick as Mr. Long says he is, and he would still have support because he is attempting to reverse the rot.

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    • July 21, 2018, at 10:49 AM PDT
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  15. Max Ledoux Admin

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Wow talk about hair on fire. We have an ill man in the White House who is unsuited to be president? That is definitely Rob Long’s Michael Jackson moment.

    It was music to my ears for Rob Long to say that we have an ill man in the White House who is unfit t be president. I agree wholeheartedly!

     

    Whether one agrees with Rob or disagrees, Rob has been saying that about Trump for a very long time.

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    • July 21, 2018, at 11:13 AM PDT
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  16. Full Size Tabby Member

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Wow talk about hair on fire. We have an ill man in the White House who is unsuited to be president? That is definitely Rob Long’s Michael Jackson moment.

    It was music to my ears for Rob Long to say that we have an ill man in the White House who is unfit t be president. I agree wholeheartedly!

     

    Whether one agrees with Rob or disagrees, Rob has been saying that about Trump for a very long time.

    And so what is the point of continuing to hammer that point now? The primary effect seems to be to embolden and enlarge the effectiveness of those who are trying to overturn the 2016 election, and to prevent any Trump associated accomplishments, even those accomplishments that those who continue to insist Trump is unfit for office claim they agree with or think would be good.

     

     

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    • July 21, 2018, at 1:15 PM PDT
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  17. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Wow talk about hair on fire. We have an ill man in the White House who is unsuited to be president? That is definitely Rob Long’s Michael Jackson moment.

    It was music to my ears for Rob Long to say that we have an ill man in the White House who is unfit t be president. I agree wholeheartedly!

     

    Whether one agrees with Rob or disagrees, Rob has been saying that about Trump for a very long time.

    And so what is the point of continuing to hammer that point now? The primary effect seems to be to embolden and enlarge the effectiveness of those who are trying to overturn the 2016 election, and to prevent any Trump associated accomplishments, even those accomplishments that those who continue to insist Trump is unfit for office claim they agree with or think would be good.

    It is especially important to hammer the point now. When Trump goes completely off the deep end as he did in Helsinki, he MUST be hammered because maybe, just maybe he will learn something and make adjustments. Also, now to paraphrase Mr. Epstein in The Libertarian podcast, it is no longer a choice between Trump and Hillary. It is now a choice between Trump and Pence and I would much rather have Pence! 

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    • July 21, 2018, at 1:23 PM PDT
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  18. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Mrs. Ink (View Comment):
    I find it fascinating that Rob Long, who works in television, does not see that a lot of Trump’s behavior is part of his persona as the brash, wheeler-dealer guy.

    Oh he sees it. He sees it for exactly the stupidity it is. It worked for Trump in NY real estate to a point, although he did manage to bankrupt himself, and it is fine for a BS reality TV show, but it doesn’t work in foreign relations with evil dictators.

    Bravo Mr. Long. I salute you!

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    • July 21, 2018, at 2:46 PM PDT
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  19. DHMorgan Coolidge

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):
    It is especially important to hammer the point now. When Trump goes completely off the deep end as he did in Helsinki, he MUST be hammered because maybe, just maybe he will learn something and make adjustments.

    Bingo!

    Man O Tea (View Comment):
    She said “I’m a huge-peter fan.”

    Why would you spot something like that?

    “Because my mind works that way, that’s why.”

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    • July 21, 2018, at 3:13 PM PDT
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  20. kedavis Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I have a better script. Omit Max’s paragraph and say the following:

    Our members are from the Center-Right part of the spectrum. Some of us love Trump, some don’t. NeverTrump Member Gary Robbins has made a $300.00 gift to purchase 10 memberships for one year, because he believes that once you read the Member Feed and have posted messages on it, including his latest diatribe against Trump, you will be hooked and will want to pay only $2.50 a month to be able to file your own posts about how you love, hate or are perplexed about Trump, and you will be throughly hooked as a member, and will want to explore the more expensive membership levels.

    ________________

     

    As far as I know, the $2.50 podcast-level membership only allows for commenting on the podcasts, not elsewhere on the site. You can read the rest of the site, but not post/comment.

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    • July 21, 2018, at 3:15 PM PDT
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  21. kedavis Member

    Also, @roblong completely misunderstands/misstates what Max Headroom was about. What else might he be wrong about? The possibilities are endless.

    Oh yes, he was also wrong about Khrushchev and Kennedy. And about The Paper winning at the Oscars. What else?

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    • July 21, 2018, at 3:22 PM PDT
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  22. Hoyacon Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Wow talk about hair on fire. We have an ill man in the White House who is unsuited to be president? That is definitely Rob Long’s Michael Jackson moment.

    It was music to my ears for Rob Long to say that we have an ill man in the White House who is unfit t be president. I agree wholeheartedly!

    To be fair to Rob, you’ve accused Trump of suffering from incipient dementia and applauded unethical practitioners analyzing him from afar because they share your perspective. I have doubts that he’s interested in that kind of support. But if he is, I’d like to know.

     

     

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  23. Petty Boozswha Member

    I’m so glad Rob went there, his comments were like a glass of water in the desert for us NeverTrumpers. Trump got a narcissist’s euphoria over the coverage of his summit with Kim and immediately went into cocaine-study monkey mode slapping the bar for more, more, more!!!! Get me a nothingburger summit with Putin, and make sure you follow it up with another one next fall! So what if I give away the store, I need it, I need it bad.

    The electoral college was supposed to protect us from unworthy demagogues like Trump. After the election of 1800, with the development of political parties resulting in a deadlocked electoral college and a deadlocked House of Representatives, the 12th Amendment was supposed to transfer that winnowing process to the parties. This worked reasonably well because parties were organizations of patronage machines, who saw their self-interest in curbing the passions of the mob to the practicalities of running the country, until the “reforms” of the Great Society and public employee unionism striped them of their core functions. Now parties are pale husks of their former selves, run by moral eunuchs like Rence Priebus and Sean Spicer, and provide no protection for the general public.

    When Henry Wallace threatened a slobbering affection for Stalinism he was taken out by Sidney Hillman and the rest of the Democrat Party machine. Who will perform that function now if Trump goes off the rails and forces Dan Coats to start a series of foreign policy staff resignations?

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  24. Max Ledoux Admin

    kedavis (View Comment):
    As far as I know, the $2.50 podcast-level membership only allows for commenting on the podcasts, not elsewhere on the site. You can read the rest of the site, but not post/comment.

    That is correct. It’s mostly a way for people to support the podcasts.

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  25. Bishop Wash Member

     

     

    Man O Tea (View Comment):

    Keep Mona’s husband from listening to her interview. She said “I’m a huge-peter fan.”

    Just shift the hyphen. A relevant xkcd for most situations

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    • July 21, 2018, at 7:26 PM PDT
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  26. Mrs. Ink Member

    Wow, the hatred lives loudly within some people on this thread.

    Tell me, where was all this indignation and passion when Obama was tearing the Constitution and our country to shreds? 

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    • July 21, 2018, at 9:34 PM PDT
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  27. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Wow talk about hair on fire. We have an ill man in the White House who is unsuited to be president? That is definitely Rob Long’s Michael Jackson moment.

    It was music to my ears for Rob Long to say that we have an ill man in the White House who is unfit t be president. I agree wholeheartedly!

     

    Whether one agrees with Rob or disagrees, Rob has been saying that about Trump for a very long time.

    And so what is the point of continuing to hammer that point now? The primary effect seems to be to embolden and enlarge the effectiveness of those who are trying to overturn the 2016 election, and to prevent any Trump associated accomplishments, even those accomplishments that those who continue to insist Trump is unfit for office claim they agree with or think would be good.

    The purpose is simple, to create a primary challenge to Trump to save the country and the Republican Party back from the populists and “the ill man in the White House who is unfit to be president.”

     

     

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    • July 21, 2018, at 10:24 PM PDT
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  28. Gary Robbins Reagan

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I have a better script. Omit Max’s paragraph and say the following:

    Our members are from the Center-Right part of the spectrum. Some of us love Trump, some don’t. NeverTrump Member Gary Robbins has made a $300.00 gift to purchase 10 memberships for one year, because he believes that once you read the Member Feed and have posted messages on it, including his latest diatribe against Trump, you will be hooked and will want to pay only $2.50 a month to be able to file your own posts about how you love, hate or are perplexed about Trump, and you will be throughly hooked as a member, and will want to explore the more expensive membership levels.

    ________________

     

    As far as I know, the $2.50 podcast-level membership only allows for commenting on the podcasts, not elsewhere on the site. You can read the rest of the site, but not post/comment.

    So what level would it cost for people to be able to post and comment? How much would it cost for a year subscription?

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    • July 21, 2018, at 10:26 PM PDT
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  29. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Mrs. Ink (View Comment):

    Wow, the hatred lives loudly within some people on this thread.

    Tell me, where was all this indignation and passion when Obama was tearing the Constitution and our country to shreds?

    I was loud then too. But Obama was a Democrat, we expect nonsense from them! Trump executed a hostile take-over of the Republican Party and needs to be thrown out at the ballot box.

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    • July 21, 2018, at 10:30 PM PDT
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  30. Eustace C. Scrubb Member

    Sometimes the comments are quite helpful… Letting me know when a podcast is worth skipping. This is such a time.

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    • July 21, 2018, at 10:42 PM PDT
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